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[Jaroth Corbett]

trycksh0t, on 04 November 2011 - 08:29 PM, said:

When Kerensky abandoned the sphere, he abandoned any claim he, his followers, or his descendents had to reshape the sphere. The clans are nothing more than another invasion force coming to take what they have no right to. I shall stand with House Davion, and crush any and all foes the First Prince points his finger at, wherever they may be found.

In the time the Great Father left was the Star League remade? Did the Successor States learn to work together? When the Star League collapsed the "Great Houses" proved they were incapable of governing the IS. Your houses are diseased & corrupt. We shall cleanse you all with the fire of battle! The ilKhan's wish is my will.

[Infine]

Jaroth Winson, on 03 November 2011 - 04:14 PM, said:

Also we do not use mines & other related non-skill weapons.There are your advantages.

And FASCAM ammo scatters plush bears

Only IS, only hardcore.

Also, I find zellbrigen rules and honor combat boring. As one of my friends said (about FPS though) - the real pro don't shoot in the head. The real pro shoot in the back.

[Vallend]

I will stick with the FWL as I have always for the last close to 30 years I have played Battletech. Only reason many players will want to be a clanner is they think they will have better Battlemechs.

[Jack Gallows]

The_Birdeater, on 04 November 2011 - 07:04 PM, said:

Neg

It's 3048! So we have 12 years ahead of us.

Must suck to have a time limit, unlike the rest of us

Jaroth Winson, on 04 November 2011 - 08:48 PM, said:

In the time the Great Father left was the Star League remade? Did the Successor States learn to work together? When the Star League collapsed the "Great Houses" proved they were incapable of governing the IS. Your houses are diseased & corrupt. We shall cleanse you all with the fire of battle! The ilKhan's wish is my will.

Your great father couldn't keep his forces from pretty much mimicking the IS once you got away from the IS, and it took his son to finally stabilize your small band into Clans. Left to themselves, the Clans seem apt to fight each other and tend to hold long hatreds as well. 5 dollars says that if the Clan invasion had reached Terra, the Clans would shortly afterwards be at each others throats as they partitioned off the IS and basically replayed history.

[Max Liao]

Kyll Long, on 03 November 2011 - 02:27 PM, said:

Not for any amount in the world

^^ This

There is nothing good from the clan story or its change of game play on the hex board/terrain. I know a lot of people like the bigger booms and faster pace of the clan era games, but not this guy. Never have, never will.

I'm glad people like the clan era and that it extended the life of BattleTech, in the same way that I like Dark Age and how it brought BattleTech to a new generation, but to me both of those storylines are garbage, and the gameplay is worse. The further I can stay away from them the happier I'll be.

[Jack Gallows]

Max Liao, on 04 November 2011 - 10:57 PM, said:

^^ This

There is nothing good from the clan story or its change of game play on the hex board/terrain. I know a lot of people like the bigger booms and faster pace of the clan era games, but not this guy. Never have, never will.

I'm glad people like the clan era and that it extended the life of BattleTech, in the same way that I like Dark Age and how it brought BattleTech to a new generation, but to me both of those storylines are garbage, and the gameplay is worse. The further I can stay away from them the happier I'll be.

To me, the Clan Invasion isn't a bad thing. I like the older mech styles, but I wish the whole Clan thing had taken longer to boil, if you get my meaning. Slower release of tech, maybe not as big a gap initially, and more focus on story driving would have made it a really good addition. As it stands now, I don't dislike it but I always like the original release with just the 5 big houses.

[xVeNoMNXx]

DFDelta, on 03 November 2011 - 02:29 PM, said:

This.
I may not like every house of the IS, and even hate some of them, but I will defend them all from the dirty clanners.

SILENCE YOU FREEBIRTH FILTH! I will make you my bondsman, but the only Mech action you will get is scraping the remains of your other freebirth filth brethren off the feet of my Mech's.

DEATH TO ALL FREEBORN!

[Aaron DeChavilier]

Jack Gallows, on 04 November 2011 - 10:43 PM, said:

Must suck to have a time limit, unlike the rest of us




Your great father couldn't keep his forces from pretty much mimicking the IS once you got away from the IS, and it took his son to finally stabilize your small band into Clans. Left to themselves, the Clans seem apt to fight each other and tend to hold long hatreds as well. 5 dollars says that if the Clan invasion had reached Terra, the Clans would shortly afterwards be at each others throats as they partitioned off the IS and basically replayed history.

thank you, seems like someone decided to step in and help me here

[Halfinax]

Clanners are for people who just want all the power, and none of the skill.

[Jack Gallows]

Aaron DeChavilier, on 04 November 2011 - 11:10 PM, said:

thank you, seems like someone decided to step in and help me here

It just basically boils down to each side having their own flaws, but having too many similarities for one to really be superior.

If anything, war is going to be constant, each side sows the seeds of it's own downfall, it's just a matter of time and hard work from within that dictates how long it lasts. After the Jihad, and after the Clans settle in (if you can call it that) with the IS and the Star League becomes the Republic of the Sphere, had there been no need for future games like Dark Age, there might have been a period of peace. But, peace is boring, since this is a game of war

From a post I made in another thread

Jack Gallows, on 04 November 2011 - 10:53 PM, said:

Quite a bit more in spirit then what the Clans were trying to do. The Clans unwittingly became the anvil upon which the reborn Star League was born.

Consider Alkexsandr Kerenky's words to the Inner Sphere....

"Thus, we have left the only homes we have ever known to place the destructive capability of this armada beyond the reach of those who would use it, not for defense, but for conquest. Perhaps, with the might of our 'Mechs and ships out of reach, the leaders who now grapple with one another will relinquish their dreams of subjugating their neighbors and learn to live in peace with them.

"Perhaps, one day, should mankind step back from the brink of the abyss, we, our children, or our children's children will return, to once more serve and protect and guide the Star League in mankind's quest for the stars."

Do you REALLY think he wanted the Clans to come back and start a massive destructive invasion? Doesn't that seem completely opposite of the original reasoning of WHY he left in the first place?

Edited by Jack Gallows, 04 November 2011 - 11:15 PM.

[Gorith]

I don't know depends on the Clans and C.Mechs they offer. though I may IS just because i think alot of people will Clan hoping for the ever powerful tech advantage. meaning more people to shoot and more chance to prove myself on IS

[T S Hawk]

Personally no. As much as I like how the timeline forced some stuff IMO when the clans invaded I would like to see the game start out before the clans even arrived. Now will that upset the people who like to play the clans yes..but the question then I have for those people is did you play the game before the clans even arrived?

[Xhaleon]

Threads like these only confirm my suspicions lately from viewing the boards, and that Piranha was wrong to bring the game up to 3049.


They should have stuck to 3015. People would have still played. The people who wouldn't play because Clans weren't in would still ***** about it in the forums in the same asinine over-roleplayed way they do now, but at least they were out of the game proper.

You will have your main course of FUSION ENGINE, along with a side dish of SINGLE HEAT SINKS.
You will EAT your LRM-5, and you will **********ing LIKE IT.

[Cyber Carns]

Always been kind of both Clanner and a House Steiner follower. But you see there is a way to get the best of both worlds. Just click on the sig and it will tell all.

[Adridos]

Infine, on 04 November 2011 - 09:38 PM, said:

And FASCAM ammo scatters plush bears

Only IS, only hardcore.

Also, I find zellbrigen rules and honor combat boring. As one of my friends said (about FPS though) - the real pro don't shoot in the head. The real pro shoot in the back.

The real pro knows gramatics. And real pro in FPSs uses knife.
But yeah, from the real life prespective, the real pro does attack from the back.
Sun Tzu (I maybe have a misteke here and there): "If you fight an equal fight, you have failed."

Edited by adridos, 05 November 2011 - 01:25 AM.

[Jaroth Corbett]

halfinax, on 04 November 2011 - 11:12 PM, said:

Clanners are for people who just want all the power, and none of the skill.

None of the skill? Absurd. The training a clansman goes through is of the highest caliber. Clearly you know not of what you speak.

[DFDelta]

Jaroth Winson, on 05 November 2011 - 01:34 AM, said:

None of the skill? Absurd. The training a clansman goes through is of the highest caliber. Clearly you know not of what you speak.

Not in the games unfortunally.

I'm looking forward to it, as I said before. If the Devs do it right then the clans will have other canon things that will balance them for gameplay (A BV system, disadvantage in numbers, something like that), and then those that only stick to clan for the tech will be crying because they still have to deal with a fair fight.

[CaveMan]

<RP>
Trothkin, hear me:

If these Inner Sphere barbarians mewl and whine about the advantage given to Kerensky's chosen by the fruits of our Scientist caste, complaining that our weapons are too powerful, our armor too strong, our OmniMechs too fast, then let us beat them on their own terms. We shall set our weapons to training power, and still we will defeat these freeborn scum, quiaff?

It is not the strength of his armor that makes a Clan warrior invincible; it is the weight of the honor he bears--the honor of an ancestral line that traces its genes back to the lost paradise that was the Star League--that plants his feet firmly in the ground. It is not the power of PPCs and autocannons that puts fear in the hearts of our enemies; it is our thirst for victory, our burning ardor to earn our Bloodright, and our skill, honed to a gleaming edge from the time we join our sibkos.

Take away our advanced weaponry and still we remain Clan. We are the Trueborn. Each Clan is a living weapon, made not of machines but of men and women, from the humblest laborer to the khans themselves, and it is from this that we derive our power. Trothkin, I tell you this: when our Trueborn face the muddied ranks of the barbarians, we would defeat them with pointy sticks!
</RP>

Hell yes I'm going to play Clan, and don't be surprised if I teamkill any whiny 12 year olds who only roll Clan because they want shiny guns.

[Jaroth Corbett]

SEYLA!

[terminator]

I would try some Jade Falcon goodness, but not sure if i would stay clan.