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[Joanna Conners]

By "interesting society" do you mean bigoted, closed-minded and generally evil?

The Clans are fascinating, but they're more like the Klan here on Earth than warrior elite. The last time a few maniacs tried a "master race" tactic in our world it didn't result in victory either. The Clans show humanity at its noblest and most evil. The psuedo-honor is propped up on the backs of the "weaker". The types of feudal minded idiots that launch Crusades to prove their worth and slaughter anyone that's unworthy or in their way.

In truth they are cowards. Small minds, brain-washed into believing oppressive lies. Seduced into succeeding through oppression.

[Scott Bernard]

sure, why not?

multiple characters are OK right? on my other forums I'm a clanner. but the original draw of this game when it was announced two years ago featured a timeline starting at 3015 or something. that was quite attractive to me because we'd get to live out succession war technology and savor it too.

I'm cool w/ the Clan Invasion Storyline, as long as they keep it long and drawn out. In my old tabletop years, that era was too short. lol

also, I'm not cool w/ the uber-tech of later battletech timelines. when it got into the world of all kinds of C3i and HoundDog Jammers and HAGGIS Guns, it kinda went wonky from then on.

Gimme my ugly-*** Jagermech, Atlas, Dragon, Panther, and a sweet Warhammer. And let them be free of Double Heat Sinks.

That is battletech to me :-)

[Scott Bernard]

Demona, on 23 November 2011 - 07:37 PM, said:

By "interesting society" do you mean bigoted, closed-minded and generally evil?

The Clans are fascinating, but they're more like the Klan here on Earth than warrior elite. The last time a few maniacs tried a "master race" tactic in our world it didn't result in victory either. The Clans show humanity at its noblest and most evil. The psuedo-honor is propped up on the backs of the "weaker". The types of feudal minded idiots that launch Crusades to prove their worth and slaughter anyone that's unworthy or in their way.

In truth they are cowards. Small minds, brain-washed into believing oppressive lies. Seduced into succeeding through oppression.

its ok, they got kicked in the nuts real hard at Tukkayid and more. militarily and ideologically. (when you think of it, every faction got kicked in the nuts as the years went by)

it made for great reading in the books back in the '90s. simpler times. (but not necessarily better! hahaha)

[Boneripper]

Jade Falcons all the way.

[Jack Gallows]

Demona, on 23 November 2011 - 07:37 PM, said:

By "interesting society" do you mean bigoted, closed-minded and generally evil?

The Clans are fascinating, but they're more like the Klan here on Earth than warrior elite. The last time a few maniacs tried a "master race" tactic in our world it didn't result in victory either. The Clans show humanity at its noblest and most evil. The psuedo-honor is propped up on the backs of the "weaker". The types of feudal minded idiots that launch Crusades to prove their worth and slaughter anyone that's unworthy or in their way.

In truth they are cowards. Small minds, brain-washed into believing oppressive lies. Seduced into succeeding through oppression.

We all know the real world implications of their society, but it doesn't mean it can't be used in a fantasy setting like Btech, which is the point.

Regardless of that, the Clans can be interesting in how they read and some of their ideas (if not all,) and many of their ideals get warped and changed by their interaction to the Inner Sphere, bringing some of them back closer to actual humanity.

[Mr Sockpuppet]

I've never liked IS over all as a group or even divided between houses, I've liked a few individuals from within the IS (Victor, Kai, etc) ,but I've always preferred Merc's, or Clanners.

[MaddMaxx]

Whatever.

I will kill you as an IS MechWarrior.

Then I will kill you as a Clan MechWarrior.

Then once more as an IS MechWarrior to make sure you get the point.

It ain't what I'm driving. It's who's driving it. Muahahahahaha!

Edited by MaddMaxx, 24 November 2011 - 10:59 AM.

[Nik Van Rhijn]

Interesting to see the split in the poll - maybe the feared "rush" to the Clan's that some feared won't arrive - especially if it's not an easy choice ie they make it difficult to play Clans, perhaps having to play IS first and then undergo a Trial of Acceptance. As log as IS always outnumber clan's then I think it's doable dispite the disparity in tech.

[StoneRhino]

Demona, on 23 November 2011 - 07:37 PM, said:

By "interesting society" do you mean bigoted, closed-minded and generally evil?

The Clans are fascinating, but they're more like the Klan here on Earth than warrior elite. The last time a few maniacs tried a "master race" tactic in our world it didn't result in victory either. The Clans show humanity at its noblest and most evil. The psuedo-honor is propped up on the backs of the "weaker". The types of feudal minded idiots that launch Crusades to prove their worth and slaughter anyone that's unworthy or in their way.

In truth they are cowards. Small minds, brain-washed into believing oppressive lies. Seduced into succeeding through oppression.

Hahah, that reminds me of this, because its the truth:

Edited by stonerhino, 24 November 2011 - 04:35 PM.

[Mordegald]

Probably not. Diamond Sharks were always my Clan, and they didn't show up on the scene in any big way until Tukayyid.

Plus, and no offense to anybody here, but some of the other Clan players I've run across get a little too into it.

Which is not to say that I wouldn't be all over a Clan 'mech like a FedSunner on a cheeseburger. Because I would be. Phoenix Hawk IIC, anyone?

[h1tl3r1t3]

Clan Wolf, Atlas IIC. Or you know, play both ends from the middle. Wolf's Dragoons.

Edited by h1tl3r1t3, 24 November 2011 - 09:53 PM.

[Billy Taylor]

Clan Jade Wolf will destroy you all!

[Saurok]

Mordegald, on 24 November 2011 - 09:29 PM, said:

Which is not to say that I wouldn't be all over a Clan 'mech like a FedSunner on a cheeseburger. Because I would be. Phoenix Hawk IIC, anyone?

That is sole reason why I approve Clans. They made some good IIC and second line designs which Sharks kindly offer to Inner Sphere buyers

[Datum]

Stick me in the warden clans, please.

[Hangfire]

Would I play as a clanner? Nah,, too full of themselves.
Will I use their mechs if I salvage them from the battlefield?,, That's a no brainer,

[StoneRhino]

Mordegald, on 24 November 2011 - 09:29 PM, said:

Probably not. Diamond Sharks were always my Clan, and they didn't show up on the scene in any big way until Tukayyid.

Plus, and no offense to anybody here, but some of the other Clan players I've run across get a little too into it.

Which is not to say that I wouldn't be all over a Clan 'mech like a FedSunner on a cheeseburger. Because I would be. Phoenix Hawk IIC, anyone?

I think the coolest thing about the clans has to be their second line mechs. I love me some 3055:original, including the IICs and Second liners.

[Aaron DeChavilier]

Jack Gallows, on 24 November 2011 - 07:48 AM, said:

We all know the real world implications of their society, but it doesn't mean it can't be used in a fantasy setting like Btech, which is the point.

Regardless of that, the Clans can be interesting in how they read and some of their ideas (if not all,) and many of their ideals get warped and changed by their interaction to the Inner Sphere, bringing some of them back closer to actual humanity.

going off what some staunch clan supporters on this forum act and post like; I wouldn't presume to say we all know
cause you're probably the first to make an actual out-of-game point about them that's true while simultaneously
acknowledging their shortcomings. Hats off to you sir!

[Jack Gallows]

Aaron DeChavilier, on 25 November 2011 - 10:23 AM, said:

going off what some staunch clan supporters on this forum act and post like; I wouldn't presume to say we all know
cause you're probably the first to make an actual out-of-game point about them that's true while simultaneously
acknowledging their shortcomings. Hats off to you sir!

We're all flawed. That's the beauty of life and what makes us and our ideas interesting. The Clans are the same way, just like the IS. To think yourself the best/prefect or infallible is a quick way to die, be it physically, or mentally.

Edited by Jack Gallows, 29 November 2011 - 06:25 PM.

[Ozric]

jade falcon, go!

people shouldn't worry about the clans being unbalanced, despite what the books say. theres no way the devs would enable the option if it somehow unbalanced the game. players are almost certain to get their hands on clan tech if not at launch soon after, but when all is said and done its unlikey to give you an advantage on its own. there are lots of ways they could do this. for example normalise damage/output based on equipment lvl (have clan tech at high lvl as standard, IS from low lvl to high). i'm sure they'll come up with something.

what interests me more is how we join the clans. rolling a second character would work, but after putting time into another might anoy me. joining a clan with your character or merc corp would also work, bondsman ahoy! but you'd never be a pureblood... whatever they do, i just hope i enjoy stalking around the battlefield in my lime green mad dog-C.

[Volume]

I don't really RP this kind of jazz, but suffice to say I would be very happy if I could play as a pilot for any of the following:

Clan Jade Falcon
FRR
Clan Wolf
House Marik
Ghost Bear/Smoke Jaguar/Nova Cat
Mercenary
Pirate
House Davion
House Steiner


^ List is order, top is most preferred, but I love all of them. I'll probably end up in the Draconis Combine by how things are shaping up to look, but I wouldn't mind anything. Can't wait for the game but suffice to say I would gladly play as a Clanner given the choice, and not because "LOL MY EQUIPMENT BETTER THAN YOU" but I started in Mechwarrior 2 and fell in love with their honor system, and sort of liked the idea of being some sort of autocannon-wielding samurai.