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[Sweepstakes]

Hey,

After downloading the new patch i encountered severe shader problems. Maps would look like bogus and missle`s and smoke looked like square`s aswell.

I tried re-downloading the game and re-installing but now the game either crashes before i even get in , our my mech lab has metallic bubble`s in it that look like small watterbaloons and then crashes.

Cant play at all atm because of this and i did update all my drivers and everything i could possibly think off.

please help, my poor mechs are getting rusty like this

[Bagheera]

Niko Snow, on 27 November 2012 - 11:41 AM, said:

• How had the patch generally affected your performance?
  
• Whether there are specific points in the game when your performance changes.
  
• What are your video settings, did you change them since last patch?
  
• Average FPS ingame and in the menus for previous patch and latest patch (Press F9 to see your FPS)
  
• System specs
  
• Your advertised internet connection speed / Geographic location

-- With the 11/20 patch, performance took a nose dive. Comments were made in the previous feedback thread. I did have decent performance on Caustic Valley, and mostly acceptable performance on River and Forest (Snow). With the 11/27 patch, that is essentiall all gone. Performance markedly worse. Single digit frame rates are persistent when just moving around both versions of Frozen, and the slightest combat on any map (read taking any damage at all) instigates single digit frame rates as well.

-- Performance affected when taking any amount of enemy fire, or when simply moving/twisting on Forest Colony, Frozen City, Frozen City Night, and to a lesser degree on Forest Colony Snow. Performance also affected whenever the ******* Betty speaks up. When she is really blathering on about damage, missles, criticals and the like, I'm watching a still image. Literally. It's like that old joke about muscle cars. Not how many frames per second, but how many seconds per frame. In fact, I am starting to think I need to investigate some sort of sound issue that does not show up in any other application ever, including things like Premiere, After Effects, Soundbooth, etc.

-- All set to default low settings. Changing resolution after 11/20 patch did not resolve, nor did clearing shader cache directory, re-installation of the game client, or the couple of user.cfg solutions I tried from the work-arounds section. For the record, I used those during closed beta to achieve sustained averages in the 40fps territory. I have not taken any steps or changed any settings as of this patch, and outside of dropping my resolution I don't expect I will have time to try. I also don't expect that to do anything to fix it either.

-- Avg mechlab fps unchanged: high 40s to mid 50s. Previous patch 17-23 in game, with drops into the single digits during conditions described above. This patch, 12-15 at best, with the occasional peak into the 20s when nothing is happening. Single digit frame rates as described above, and a couple instances of outright frozen frames during an exceptionally chatty Betty and heavy combat.

-- Specs:

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e8400 3.0Ghz
12GB RAM
nVidia GTX 560 1GB, eVGA factory overclock
SATA-II 320GB sys drive

It's not my internet connection.

Edited by Bagheera, 27 November 2012 - 11:55 PM.

[Carmaga]

To update my previous post:

I ran the game in windowed mode, 1280x720. All settings low except post-processing. This is what I found:

- moving mouse/torso (without using keyboard): relatively smooth playback
- pressing keyboard (turning the whole mech): heavy stuttering
stuttering calms down when you don't press a key and wait
- pressing keyboard (accelerating, de-accelerating): stuttering
stuttering calms down when you don't press a key and wait
- stationary when in action (just using your mouse): no stuttering or minor stuttering
- not pressing keyboard, mech walking (just using your mouse): minor stuttering
- no matter what you do the sound is cracking and popping
- when entering spectator mode and not touching the keyboard, sometimes everything runs much smoother

Here is the stuttering:


Here is how the game worked before these unplayable patches


Here is how Cryengine3 SDK works on my computer

And here is how Crysis2 (achieved with cryengine3) works on my computer

Edit: is my voice even heard in here? It's like speaking to empty walls ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶

Edited by Carmaga, 28 November 2012 - 04:18 PM.

[Zerwikaptur]

1.0.150 patch performance feedback is 40 pages of people informing you that they can't play at all or can barely do it with the FPS drops.
I was surprised you didn't revert that patch.
I'm very surprised you still don't prioritize the performance issues and release some minor content updates instead.

Another week off from mwo.

[Strakha]

Performance is still terrible. After 39 pages of us telling you this in the last patch, I'm not going to waste my time going into anymore detail.

If the next patch doesn't fix it, I'm quitting.

[yashmack]

Carmaga, on 28 November 2012 - 12:26 AM, said:

To update my previous post: ... ~truncated

what are the specs on your PC?
your gameplay in the 2 MWO videos looks just like how my PC was working pre-open beta and after the last 2 patches...

I have a Core 2 Duo 3GHz cpu and a GTS 250 nvidia card

[Barbaric Soul]

1. Haven't played in the past several patches, can't answer that question.

2. Performance seemed to stay pretty constant in the games I played last night.

3. My current setting are all setting set to very high,motion blur turned off, 1920*1200 resolution

4. 50-70 fps, except when map is loading, FPS never dropped below 50 fps

5.

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2600k OC'ed to 4.2ghz, 8 gig DDR3 1600 RAM, HD 7970 @ 925 core/1375 memory(stock non-GHZ edition)

6. 3000/768 Verizon DSL

Edited by Barbaric Soul, 28 November 2012 - 02:53 AM.

[Funkin Disher]

I'm playing from aust, so my ping is not great at the best of times. I can however, still use ballistic weapons, PPCs and such while compensating for that lag.

After this patch however, i am getting huge lag spikes, and my ping is not changing. This lag occurs frequently but is not constant, and many i have played with are experiencing the same thing. I'm even skipping around like a lag-shield jenner at times, and I usually pilot Catapults and Cataphracts! I guess this is the same as everyone else's stuttering problems.

Loving the new night frozen and Betty voice (apart from a lack of nominal systems), but can we fix this stuttering/lag issue? I will have to resort to LRMs and Streaks just to play properly until it's fixed...

Edit: I haven't encountered any framerate issues yet either. Sound is popping and dropping off though.

Edited by Kane0, 28 November 2012 - 03:11 AM.

[Exinferis]

• How had the patch generally affected your performance?
  
• Whether there are specific points in the game when your performance changes.
  
• What are your video settings, did you change them since last patch?
  
• Average FPS ingame and in the menus for previous patch and latest patch (Press F9 to see your FPS)
  
• System specs
  
• Your advertised internet connection speed / Geographic location

It got worse when I am in close combat. On distance fights it works fine. But in close combat the mechs are jumping like rabbits on ecstasy forth and back.

My settings are all at max with a resolution of 1920x1200 and AA on, or 2880x1800 and downscaling. But in FPS there is no difference. I am always around 55 to 60 fps.

System-Specs:

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i7-2600k at stock speed
8GB RAM
Asus P67 Sabertooth
evga GTX570 SC
Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit at actual state
all drivers are the newest available ones.

Internetconnection is VDSL with a download of 50MBit/s and an upload of 10MBit/s and I am playing from germany.

Edited by Exinferis, 28 November 2012 - 03:26 AM.

[Gherkin]

Orion Leftwind, on 27 November 2012 - 10:12 PM, said:

All Performance / FPS / Lag related posts will be merged into this thread for simplified reference and overview.

Please attempt to respond to the following questions in your responses:

• How had the patch generally affected your performance?
  
• Whether there are specific points in the game when your performance changes.
  
• What are your video settings, did you change them since last patch?
  
• Average FPS ingame and in the menus for previous patch and latest patch (Press F9 to see your FPS)
  
• System specs (You can include them in a [spoiler] [ /spoiler])
  
• Your advertised internet connection speed / Geographic location

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This paticullar Patch did not affect performance in any way. Still a slideshow when moving or in combat.

Video: 1280x1024 full screen w/ v-sync. Video setting at the lowest via options or with a custom config make no difference. Changing resolution makes no difference.

FPS: 60 in the mech lab. Mid-30's after ~15 seconds in a match (single digit until then). Stays mid-30's while standing still. Any movement (forward, torso twist, etc.) and frame rates drop to sub 20's. In combat (close or not) and FPS drops to single digits).

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3.6Ghz
8GB Ram
Powercolor hd6870
Windows 7 home 64-bit

Game has been unplayable for the last 2 patches.

Quoted (and slightly edited) because these are the exact same problems I got.

[Carmaga]

yashmack, on 28 November 2012 - 02:44 AM, said:

what are the specs on your PC?
your gameplay in the 2 MWO videos looks just like how my PC was working pre-open beta and after the last 2 patches...

I have a Core 2 Duo 3GHz cpu and a GTS 250 nvidia card

Same specs as you have (core2duo E8500 @3.16ghz), except that I have 460GTX.

[Kaelus]

Niko Snow, on 27 November 2012 - 11:41 AM, said:

All Performance / FPS / Lag related posts will be merged into this thread for simplified reference and overview.

Please attempt to respond to the following questions in your responses:

• How had the patch generally affected your performance?
  
• Whether there are specific points in the game when your performance changes.
  
• What are your video settings, did you change them since last patch?
  
• Average FPS ingame and in the menus for previous patch and latest patch (Press F9 to see your FPS)
  
• System specs (You can include them in a
  Spoiler

  [ /spoiler])
  
• Your advertised internet connection speed / Geographic location

This is a general cry for help, I am emailing support this same information. During the past few patches I have slowly been losing frames 5-7 each patch. Addressing your questions firstly.

1. The patch have stolen frames so in just about every map if I turn fast I get sub 20 fps, as I cannot identify any bottlenecks in my setup this is abysmal and makes playing frustrating and makes me not want to log in.

2. Cannot seem to identify any one particular culprit, but lots of mechs shooting makes it tank really hard. Brawls are a spray and pray rather than a nice measured attacks. Not even talking about lagshooting of which I am skilled at. I can regularly hit jenners moving laterally at full speed in the legs with my gauss rifle. I haven't been able to do that for about 3 patches now.

3.My video settings are 1920x1080P full windowed, set on high with no motion blur and AA set to off. In closed beta I ran flawlessly 50-60 frames with everything maxed out. Always run in window but I have tested full screen a lot recently to no avail. Full screen windowed is still broken by the way.

4. My average FPS according to data i came up with yesterday was approximately topping out at 40 fps in game, that was at the very start with no movement. Averages around 15-25 fps, getting much worse with any quick movement or torso twisting or any weapons fire and mechs on screen. In the mechbay a solid 60fps

5. My specs are

[spoiler]
Windows 7 64bit Ultimate, AMD FX8120 8 core stable overclocked to 4.3Ghz, Asus Crosshair V, 8 GB of gskill memory 1866, it WAS running on a 1tb western digital black hard drive now currently on a m3 SSD, A EVGA superclocked GTX570, Also latest Nvidia beta drivers, as well as the previous WHQL drivers I rolled back to out of curiosity. The beta nvidia drivers apparently have MWO performance specific tweaks. Both ver. 310.33 and 306.97 WHQL Driver. I will try the 310.64 BETA Driver today as well.

[Carmaga]

Kaelus, on 28 November 2012 - 04:49 AM, said:

edit: I apparently cannot figure out how to spoiler tag on this forum any advice?

Spoiler tags work just like quote tags. Remember to close them. Here is a sample:

[spoiler]
your text here
[/spoiler]

it should look like this:

Spoiler

your text here

[Kaelus]

Carmaga, on 28 November 2012 - 05:01 AM, said:

Spoiler tags work just like quote tags. Remember to close them. Here is a sample:

[spoiler]
your text here
[/spoiler]

it should look like this:

Spoiler

your text here

that's what I'm doing, I know I'm not this incompetent.
I literally copy pasted what you typed. All I see is it destroying my formatting.

Edited by Kaelus, 28 November 2012 - 05:06 AM.

[Waverider]

• How had the patch generally affected your performance?
  
• Whether there are specific points in the game when your performance changes.

I'm having FPS problems for the first time since started playing in closed Beta. Rebooting Windows after patch helped a bit (so could be some external source). Also having problems with frozen city textures since 3º patch. Only played on forest colony, forest colony snow and frozen city so far. Both forest maps seems more bright, like washed, more white and uglier. I deleted, downloaded and installed the game again and will test again today to see if note any changes.

• What are your video settings, did you change them since last patch?

Same as before, same last video driver, etc.

• Average FPS ingame and in the menus for previous patch and latest patch (Press F9 to see your FPS)

Something between 30 and 50, it was easily 60 before.

• System specs

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OS Version: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional

System RAM: 12251 MB

CPU Name: Intel® Core™ i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz

CPU Speeds: 2482

Physical CPUs: 1

Virtual CPUs: 8

Video Card Description: AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series

VRAM: 2048 MB

Primary Display Resolution: 1920x1080

Multi-Monitor Desktop Resolution: 1920x1080

Microphone: True

Language: Portuguese (Brazil)

Free Hard Drive Space: 1745483 MB

Total Hard Drive Space: 1895143 MB

Windows Experience Index Rating: 7.8

• Your advertised internet connection speed / Geographic location

10M/1M (Download/Upload) I'm in Brazil (184ms ping) I'm having connection issues here, not solved yet.

[KerenskyClone]

Performace is unchanged since the last patch. Which is to say its still rather crap compared to other Cryengine3 titles. Its playable but just barely.

The stuttering and FPS drops still occur when intputing keyboard commands. Its worst during heavy firefights.

Q8300 @ 2.66 Ghz, 4GB 1066DDR2, HD 6870 1GB,

BTW when are they going ot add EU servers??? When the game goes live? Before that? After that? Damn I hope this game doesnt fizzle out because of developer incompetence...

[x Marder x]

No improvemnt. Look for the specs prevoius topic. I hope you work on this and if not pls say so so i can unistal this and go some where else.

[Karenai]

Nutthin changed pour moi.
Still craptastic fps drops.
80+fps while standing still, 50+fps while spectating, sub 15fps while fighting or moving the torso. Sometimes it drops down to sub 8fps while fighting.
Sound breaks all the time, noticing it more thanks to Betty.
Screen still going dark during fights.
Unplayable.

Intel e8400@3.6GHz
GTX 260
4GB DDR2-800
Sound Onboard
Win7 Ulti

[Zolthar]

• How had the patch generally affected your performance?
  
  
  
  My General performances has decreased on most maps
  - Forest Colony Normal and Winter, before patch i was at a 45FPS avreage, now i'm at 25 FPS with some heavy tearing in the image when fighting
  
  - River City, i have the same FPS as before (arounf 45FPS), but I'm still getting heaving tearing during fights
  
  -Caustics Valley, All smooth, 45FPS and remain smooth during fightings.
  
  - Frozen City Normal, i have the same FPS as before (arounf 45FPS), but I'm still getting heaving tearing during fights
  
  -Frozen City Night, All smooth, so far it's the smoothest map ever, FPS at a steady 60FPS, no tearing.
  
• Whether there are specific points in the game when your performance changes.
  
  
  
  My game tend to play as smooth as before, but I've noticed heavy tearing during fast movement or heavy combat, tearing that wasn't there for me before de patch.
  
• What are your video settings, did you change them since last patch?
  
  
  
  Before the patch I was playing at 1440x900 Medium setting.
  I had to reduce the Graphic to Low to deal with the tearing during fights, but Even at Low, I didn't find and improvement regarding this.
  
• Average FPS ingame and in the menus for previous patch and latest patch (Press F9 to see your FPS)
  
  
  Before: 45FPS After : 45FPS(60FPS in Frozen City Night)
  
• System specs (You can include them in a [spoiler] [ /spoiler])
  
  
  
  i5 3570k Quad Core 3.4 GHZ
  Z77 Chipset, Virtu MVP activated
  8Gb DDR3 RAM
  SSD 128Gb
  ATI 5770HD 1024Gb
  Windows 7 64Bit
  
• Your advertised internet connection speed / Geographic location
  
  
  
  -Down 30MB/s, Up 3MB/s Videotron TGV30, Montreal. Average of 35ms latency in game.

I'd say the major issue since the last patch is the heavy image tearing during fast action or even just looking far away in the map. That tearing wasn't there for me before the patch.

Edited by Zolthar, 28 November 2012 - 08:01 AM.

[Curithwin]

• How had the patch generally affected your performance?

My problem started last week with very Low FPS when turning. It has got worse this patch.

• Whether there are specific points in the game when your performance changes.

When turning and fast movement.

• What are your video settings, did you change them since last patch?

I run the game on


System Spec: High
Motion Blur: High
Fullscreen @ 1280 x 720

• Average FPS ingame and in the menus for previous patch and latest patch (Press F9 to see your FPS)

Menus - 40-60FPS


In-Game not moving 25-40
In-Game Moving 4-7FPS

• System specs (You can include them in a [spoiler] [ /spoiler])

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System Information
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Time of this report: 11/28/2012, 16:02:07
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.120830-0333)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
System Model: GA-78LMT-USB3
BIOS: Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD FX™-4170 Quad-Core Processor (4 CPUs), ~4.2GHz
Memory: 8192MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 8174MB RAM
Page File: 3336MB used, 13008MB available
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode


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Display Devices
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Card name: AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series
Manufacturer: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Chip type: AMD Radeon Graphics Processor (0x683D)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_683D&SUBSYS_27101462&REV_00
Display Memory: 737 MB
Dedicated Memory: 1003 MB
Shared Memory: 3830 MB
Current Mode: 1680 x 1050 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor Name: Acer X223W
Monitor Model: X223W
Monitor Id: ACR000D
Native Mode: 1680 x 1050(p) (59.954Hz)

• Your advertised internet connection speed / Geographic location

Using the BT Speed Checker I rated at

Download: 11.6Mb
Upload: 1Mb
Average Game speed 135ms

Edited by Curithwin, 28 November 2012 - 08:09 AM.