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#1 Diewell

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 11:26 AM

I have been in the closed beta then to the open beta and what i have seen so far is PGI caters to the whiners when they change something in game. And then pug players complain about fighting 8 man groups, and what do we get! A 4 man group system, which is a joke because people can't work together or group up with others to play against 2 full lances. Also where is phase 2 (OB dates change) that was supposed to be in place as of nov 20. Anybody seen it yet,lol pgi your slipping down hill and lots of people are losing faith in your ability to keep promises you make.

In a way PGI is punishing merc lances out there and making an issue where they are going to lose more money from the loyalists of MWO / BT due to their business model now catering to pug players and whiners.

Not just that, more game modes are needed + maps or even the talked about meta portion of the game. Don't get me wrong i do like the game it's just the direction PGI is heading in is shaky at best..

Edited by Diewell, 26 November 2012 - 03:12 PM.


#2 Stone Wall

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 11:28 AM

relax this F2P game is still in beta. they are adding these changes to test them on us. where does each patch state, "Every change we make will be permanent forever." ?

#3 Lorcan Lladd

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 11:32 AM

Three words:
Fourth, December, patch.

#4 Agent of Change

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 11:34 AM

View PostLorcan Lladd, on 26 November 2012 - 11:32 AM, said:

Three words:
Fourth, December, patch.


One word:
Maybe. :)

#5 Vassago Rain

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 11:35 AM

It seemed like a good idea at the time.

#6 justin xiang

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 11:36 AM

"Oh no, our four man can not handle playing against another team anymore.." learn to play. Sorry your ez mode got taken away.

#7 Raalic

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 11:38 AM

View PostDiewell, on 26 November 2012 - 11:26 AM, said:

I have been in the closed beta then to the open beta and what i have seen so far is PGI caters to the whiners when they change something in game. And then pug players complain about fighting 8 man groups, and what do we get! A 4 man group system, which is a joke because people can't work together or group up with others to play against a full lance.


I'd just like to nitpick, here, and remind you that 4 'mechs is, in fact, a full lance.

#8 Sorho

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 11:40 AM

There are probably more pugs then those in corps, to ignore this sizable chunk of the player base is to court disaster.

#9 Stone Wall

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 11:41 AM

View Postjustin xiang, on 26 November 2012 - 11:36 AM, said:

"Oh no, our four man can not handle playing against another team anymore.." learn to play. Sorry your ez mode got taken away.


a group doesn't add individual pilot skills. all it adds is more information than a usual PUG game. many times premade teams would still lose 8 on 8 against a PUG team.

someone yelling "protect the base" over a mic doesn't mean the base is protected.

#10 Vassago Rain

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 11:41 AM

View PostStone Wall, on 26 November 2012 - 11:41 AM, said:


a group doesn't add individual pilot skills. all it adds is more information than a usual PUG game. many times premade teams would still lose 8 on 8 against a PUG team.

someone yelling "protect the base" over a mic doesn't mean the base is protected.


But it does.

#11 Redshift2k5

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 11:42 AM

Just because the nerf something that was unbalanced does not mean they are catering to noobs.

The 8 man premade vs pugs was simply unhealthy for both sides of the match (maybe it was 'fun' to murder pugs but it certainly wasn't good for you)

I can't wait for 8 vs 8, but we'll have to be patient

#12 TruePoindexter

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 11:43 AM

View PostRedshift2k5, on 26 November 2012 - 11:42 AM, said:

Just because the nerf something that was unbalanced does not mean they are catering to noobs.

The 8 man premade vs pugs was simply unhealthy for both sides of the match (maybe it was 'fun' to murder pugs but it certainly wasn't good for you)

I can't wait for 8 vs 8, but we'll have to be patient


This. Relax - it's a game.

#13 Landsharkk

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 11:44 AM

View PostLorcan Lladd, on 26 November 2012 - 11:32 AM, said:

Three words:
Fourth, December, patch.


I love seeing people post up "Just wait for the next patch, it will fix everything!".

That has been said just about every patch for the past 5+ months, or at least since I joined closed beta back in July.

It's funny to see those still thinking PGI is going to come through with some kind of 'fix it all' patch that will make everyone happy.

The truth is, every patch they break something, introduce more unannounced changes (really PGI, you still can't communicate with your customers?), etc. It's the same thing every week, and for some reason there are still a few of you insane enough to expect different results, even though PGI's actions are exactly the same each week.

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 11:45 AM

Yes, instead, they should listen to the whiney crybaby pre-mades who think this game was made for them and only them.

Please PGI, give me a "No Premee" option when starting a match. I just can't handle listening to the QQ anymore.

#15 Bully_Hayes

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 11:52 AM

They sold us Cataprachts one day with usable UAC5's then semi crippled the mech two days later with a hot fix. No mater how you spin things to prove your point that is just plain B.S. No mater what you say no mater how you chose to twist the facts the end result is still the same ...folks got screwed. What they paid for one day is not what they had two days later. For that we have a bunch of sniveling, complaining,whining people to thank.

#16 Insidious Johnson

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 11:55 AM

View PostSorho, on 26 November 2012 - 11:40 AM, said:

There are probably more pugs then those in corps, to ignore this sizable chunk of the player base is to court disaster.

"All the pugs horses and all the pugs men, couldn't put MWO back together again." Sit down MC Humpty.

#17 Vandul

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 11:55 AM

They are data mining the matchmaking system. Thats why its being done in Phases. Relax.

#18 Alois Hammer

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 12:07 PM

View PostDiewell, on 26 November 2012 - 11:26 AM, said:

I have been in the closed beta then to the open beta and what i have seen so far is PGI caters to the whiners when they change something in game.


So what's the problem?They'll most likely give you whatever you want. :)

#19 Mack1

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 12:19 PM

Fact is if new players download MWO and in 90% of their battles they are being steamrollered by Premade 8 man Groups how long do you think MWO will actually last? I would give it a year tops.

Pugs are mainly new players which are the lifeblood of this game, then need looking after, then need to be playing against pugs not lances of any number.

The only solution is the same frigging solution people have been screaming for since the days of CB and that is a FRIGGIN SOLO QUEUE!!!

#20 Nonoka

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 12:23 PM

View PostBoomDog, on 26 November 2012 - 11:45 AM, said:

Yes, instead, they should listen to the whiney crybaby pre-mades who think this game was made for them and only them.

Please PGI, give me a "No Premee" option when starting a match. I just can't handle listening to the QQ anymore.

My God... what have I been thinking. I joined a Team Based Multi-Player game.....so I could play with friends... on a TEAM. Gee, what the hell was I thinking...

Look, do us all a favor. Step away from the keyboard, and go put your little helmet back on before you hurt yourself.

Have a nice day..





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