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[Prophanity]

First off let me just say how excited I am to see this dream of so many come true. Piranha, we are truely not worthy.
Secondly, who do I have to sleep with to get into closed beta?

Back onto topic. The bane of F2P games and the stain upon all PC gamers everywhere - cheaters. Generally speaking these are a bunch of sad individuals running a script of some form to give them an instant advantage, aim bot and the like.

I've seen several free to play games running from avergage to good with serious potential brought to ruin because of this normally small group of people. You can bet your botom dollar/sterling/euro/yen etc that this group already has their beady little eyes on this game.

What steps will be taken to prevent these kind of shinanigans going on? And how will Piranha get around the fact that a banned member of the community can simply create a new account and get right back to it?

[CARNAGE MK2]

what say you devs?!?!

[Paul Inouye]

We are very well aware of cheating in on-line games. We will never discuss our security measures with the public. Just rest assured we are taking every possible precaution to ensure that cheating is kept near to zero and will be monitoring all systems to track and ban players who cheat.

[CARNAGE MK2]

i like his answer, take that forsaken ones!!!

[Prophanity]

Thank you for the very (vague corporate line) quick reply. I truely hope you're successful where so many have failed.

Please just assure me that you won't be using punkbuster?

[Motionless]

Cheating really isn't really special in terms of F2P games.

[Riin Suul]

Prophanity, on 08 May 2012 - 10:21 AM, said:

Thank you for the very (vague corporate line) quick reply. I truely hope you're successful where so many have failed.

Please just assure me that you won't be using punkbuster?

this please... punkbuster seems to work fairly well... but when someone DOES get around it, it is essentially impossible to get PB to act and stop them

[Aegis Kleais]

Banning a player in F2P.

I don't get it. Account creation is free, and cheaters won't be rocking large Mech Garages or custom gear; they're just there to cheat within the confines of the base gameplay.

Same problem with in-game miscreants. You can't rely on a kick system to remove them from the game, because most systems require a majority of players to vote, and most voting is enough of being too out of the way that most players who aren't being affected negatively by a cheater/griefer won't take the time to vote them out.

...and justice for none.

[Kaemon]

You will never be rid of all cheaters, but PGI can do their best and hopefully with the help of the community, it will be isolated to mostly faction houses.

Muahahah!

[Mechteric]

cheating happens plenty in non-F2P games too ya know.

Just an aside, I've been playing Blacklight Retribution on occasion, its also F2P. I haven't seen any cheating personally, not sure if there's others who've reported actual cases of it.

[Aegis Kleais]

Kaemon, on 08 May 2012 - 10:26 AM, said:

You will never be rid of all cheaters, but PGI can do their best and hopefully with the help of the community, it will be isolated to mostly faction houses.

Muahahah!

It's just one more reason why Server Rental with owner-based administration (kick,mute,ban) would be a great feature down the line. I could run a server, even monitor it when I'm not playing on it, and get a heads up when a player is causing grief.

[Darkener]

so the message to all is "behave as paul is watching you" and who really wants to tangle with the paul

[Ravager AI]

Punkbuster is not a good anti-cheating system. I know as I've played ARMA 2 for a good while and every time I go online on a populated server there is at least a few (two to three) cheaters/hackers.

How people circumvent it is anybodys guess, but I barely play it nowdays thanks to it.

[Punisher 1]

You forgot a few things.

1. Being stuck with players that will not play the game. AFK, disconnect before the end of the match when they are losing or as they load in to aviod an fight.

2. The out of control Verbal / Text abuse.

3. Friendly fire that is not friendly ( please tell me there is a auto-ban for players that do this ) You know this is going to happen alot.

4. Exploits and clipping, you know people will seek out and find the advantages.

5. Playing with idiots, yes, Idiots... The 5 year old that cannot play to save his life, those that have zero tactical sense, not loading ammo into your mech mis-configurations, LEEROY JENKINS, Campfests meh you know you probably have seen it before.

This is why P V P games are a challenge.

I hope there is some controls to deal with these issues.

[DaZur]

Paul Inouye, on 08 May 2012 - 10:16 AM, said:

We are very well aware of cheating in on-line games. We will never discuss our security measures with the public. Just rest assured we are taking every possible precaution to ensure that cheating is kept near to zero and will be monitoring all systems to track and ban players who cheat.

I hear tell you boys "up North" swing a mighty ban-hammer...

I hope to never run into you guys when you're in a surly mood.

[Trevnor]

You are all forgetting something very important. Comstar is always watching, waiting. Retribution will be swift for those whom try to circumvent the Comstar adepts...

Watch and listen lest ye be converted...

[Atlai]

Paul Inouye, on 08 May 2012 - 10:16 AM, said:

We are very well aware of cheating in on-line games. We will never discuss our security measures with the public. Just rest assured we are taking every possible precaution to ensure that cheating is kept near to zero and will be monitoring all systems to track and ban players who cheat.

You could borrow Bungies Banhammer

[Darkener]

I prefer eve onlines Banhammer actually , its like the meaner big brother of timmy mallets mallet.

[guardian wolf]

I for one support this claim openly, will move to make due with whatever happens, as with cheating mirosiks, I will beat you whether you cheat or not, even if, you use invincibility.

Lt Trevnor, on 08 May 2012 - 10:51 AM, said:

You are all forgetting something very important. Comstar is always watching, waiting. Retribution will be swift for those whom try to circumvent the Comstar adepts...

Watch and listen lest ye be converted...

Have you been converted, if not, be on your guard, they are everywhere.

[sng ign]

Darkener, on 08 May 2012 - 11:03 AM, said:

I prefer eve onlines Banhammer actually , its like the meaner big brother of timmy mallets mallet.

Maybe that could be a special Warhammer used by server admins. It should be equipped with one-hit death weapons.