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[GalaxyBluestar]

ecm isn't itself terrible only that it's ability extends to other players thus with 2 a whole team is stealthed and lock unobtainable. that's where it's wrong i wouldn't mind all it's abilities given to one chassis but when it can give it to potentially the whole team... and people still support that?

[WolvesX]

"X Feature is RUINING THE GAME."
"Y Feature is RUINING THE GAME."
"Nobody will play this game, unless you implement MY I...

...

ECM is a serious isseu and still no news from the devs on it.

[Apoc1138]

WolvesX, on 03 January 2013 - 01:52 AM, said:

ECM is a serious isseu and still no news from the devs on it.

it's not a serious issue and there has been news from the Devs on it - ECM is working as intended; PC Gamer interview

[Joseph Mallan]

WolvesX, on 03 January 2013 - 01:52 AM, said:

"X Feature is RUINING THE GAME."
"Y Feature is RUINING THE GAME."
"Nobody will play this game, unless you implement MY I...

...

ECM is a serious isseu and still no news from the devs on it.

Then it must not be a serious issue. Just sayin' If it were really a serious issue the'y do something about it. As they have with other serious issues.Artemis Rain, Phract head hit box, and other broken features were hot fixed right away. Should Gaurdian ECM stop Streaks, No. But they do cause it is being used as a in game counter to SSRMs, I don't like it, I don't even use streaks, But that just means I wasn't hit as hard as the StreakCats.

[Vassago Rain]

Ruined FOREVER.

[Joseph Mallan]

Vassago Rain, on 03 January 2013 - 02:13 AM, said:

Ruined FOREVER.

And in Sweden... The Sky is falling!

[xxx WreckinBallRaj xxx]

Codejack, on 02 January 2013 - 12:44 PM, said:

No, bad players who use ECM will have their stats artificially inflated, and good players who don't use it will be underrated, making the situation even worse.

See this guy knows what's up.

Apoc1138, on 03 January 2013 - 02:06 AM, said:

it's not a serious issue and there has been news from the Devs on it - ECM is working as intended; PC Gamer interview

That just means it's OP as intended. That also doesn't mean there are no plans to balance it or the other devices in this game. Just an FYI.

Edited by Bluten, 03 January 2013 - 02:30 AM.

[Apoc1138]

Bluten, on 03 January 2013 - 02:31 AM, said:

That just means it's OP as intended. That also doesn't mean there are no plans to balance it or the other devices in this game. Just an FYI.

Well dur, really... the PC gamer interview already says that they expect other items not yet introduced to affect ECM users

Edited by Apoc1138, 03 January 2013 - 06:29 AM.

[PANZERBUNNY]

Any half *** ed mechanic or equipment that is tossed in with little thought to the overall meta of the game has a terrible impact on the well being of the game. ECM is a wonderful example of a thoughtless procedure.

[xxx WreckinBallRaj xxx]

Apoc1138, on 03 January 2013 - 02:36 AM, said:

Well dur, really... the PC gamer interview already says that they expect other items not yet introduced to affect ECM users
whining on like a 3 year old girl saying "it's OP it's OP" isn't going to get you anywhere

BAP is already in the game and does nothing. Rest of what you said is irrelevant to me.

[Apoc1138]

Bluten, on 03 January 2013 - 02:38 AM, said:

BAP is already in the game and does nothing. Rest of what you said is irrelevant to me.

where did I mention BAP?
I said "items not yet introduced to the game"

Edited by Apoc1138, 03 January 2013 - 02:44 AM.

[xxx WreckinBallRaj xxx]

Shouldn't have to wait for "new items" when BAP is already here and should logically do something vs ECM.

[PANZERBUNNY]

ECM and no falling down has indeed nuked MWO at the moment.

It's not a magic reason why hundreds of people that were always on playing, aren't on anymore.

Disaster for sure.

[Martini Henrie]

Ruined? Changed the meta, but nothing more. I am sure that we will get such threads about the next and the next and the next. Get over it...

[Apoc1138]

Bluten, on 03 January 2013 - 02:46 AM, said:

Shouldn't have to wait for "new items" when BAP is already here and should logically do something vs ECM.

why should it? in the game upon which MWO is based, BAP is completely blocked by ECM, it does the same in this game as well
the only thing BAP should do is give you an indication that ECM mechs are somewhere around anywhere on the map... though you already know there are mechs around every time you drop so it's a moot point

[PANZERBUNNY]

Martini Henrie, on 03 January 2013 - 02:47 AM, said:

Ruined? Changed the meta, but nothing more. I am sure that we will get such threads about the next and the next and the next. Get over it...

It'll be fixed. It should just be sooner rather than later.

Somehow my TAG laser firing out of an ECM bubble at a target far off doesn't work, but my normal lasers work fine.

The equipment is just clunky, not well thought out and does too much.

It's like in the day when you could just lock LRM's fire them and lose the lock and they would track their target.

The system did more than it was meant and was fixed because it was too powerful.

SO maybe people should DEAL with the fact that ECM needs to be fixed really fast. That and falling down.

Edited by PANZERBUNNY, 03 January 2013 - 02:55 AM.

[Apoc1138]

Bluten, on 03 January 2013 - 02:51 AM, said:

The same game you're referencing in your ignorant defense of ECM doesn't do any of this in it. If what you say should be true about BAP, then ECM shouldn't be as powerful as it currently is. Pick one.

in combination with the free items we have (like c3) that by and large ECM is working the same as it should in table top... in fact in table top, ECM affects any item that tries to work with a LOS THROUGH an ECM bubble, not just the 180m around the mech with ECM, so if anything ECM in MWO is UP compared with TT

oh yeah, and the Dev's have stated many times that ECM is working as intended

Edited by Apoc1138, 03 January 2013 - 06:30 AM.

[PANZERBUNNY]

Apoc1138, on 03 January 2013 - 02:57 AM, said:

If you could actually read and understand english, maybe you'd realise that in combination with the free items we have (like c3) that by and large ECM is working the same as it should in table top... in fact in table top, ECM affects any item that tries to work with a LOS THROUGH an ECM bubble, not just the 180m around the mech with ECM, so if anything ECM in MWO is UP compared with TT

oh yeah, and the Dev's have stated many times that ECM is working as intended, so either learn to play or just stop playing and do everyone a favour

They've said lots of things are working as intended and changed them.

Just because it's working as intended, doesn't mean it's fitting with the game one bit.

[GalaxyBluestar]

ecm was just a knee jerk reaction to the missle situation which was a little heavy mostly with ssrms chasing poeple down who couldn't destroy the offending mech in time with what ever they were carrying. it was a problem but ecm is a bad egg replacing another bad egg the peformance capabilities in the field greatly outway the majority of mech builds as raven's cicadas and commandos have had a real boost in fighting capability on top of lagshielding. jenners can't compete as well although some have tried. then i'm sure we've all faced the atlas lrm parties that still exsist today long after some said that "everyoe's just trying ecm cause it's new". if that was true for a moment threads like these wouldn't still be popping up. i'm certain pgi will be nerfing an ability or two from ecm cause if they still are like today after a few more patches you'll find people becoming too fed up to play the game. i'm already board with the amount of ravens that show up. usually 2 on the team every match once we had 4 and a jenner so my assault was the stupidest looking thing amongest all the lights flooding the map. ecm has changed everyone's idea of winning, that's where it's been most corruptive.

[xxx WreckinBallRaj xxx]

Apoc1138, on 03 January 2013 - 02:57 AM, said:

If you could actually read and understand english, maybe you'd realise that in combination with the free items we have (like c3) that by and large ECM is working the same as it should in table top... in fact in table top, ECM affects any item that tries to work with a LOS THROUGH an ECM bubble, not just the 180m around the mech with ECM, so if anything ECM in MWO is UP compared with TT

oh yeah, and the Dev's have stated many times that ECM is working as intended, so either learn to play or just stop playing and do everyone a favour

Again, if ECM does all that for 1.5t, then the BAP should do just as much for 1.5t. Also, again, "working as intended" doesn't mean OP or that it(and other devices) won't get changes(which are very needed). Can you read the English in that? Because people tire of repeating themselves when you can't grasp it. But if you want to talk about favors, do all of us a favor and vacant the forums already. You're clearly not interested in any kind of logical game design/balance or in improving the game from its flaws, so why keep going on and on? You're not doing anyone or anything any good with this rubbish and are just wasting everyone's time.(including your own)

Edited by Bluten, 03 January 2013 - 03:09 AM.