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[Sybreed]

Team Leader, on 04 March 2013 - 01:49 PM, said:

500mc for a tactical nuke that instantly ends the match, 250 mc for EMP which disable the enemy team for 4 minutes

nah, tactical nuke you get that after a 5 mechs kill streak.

Can't wait for melee to be in the game so I can add the "commando" module that makes my melee attacks get double the range...

[Dumbkauf]

I say no don't return just yet. One new map, Alpine (huge, long distance engagement/force brawl in one location or long walks). Finally fixed some lag issues on lights, but now we have ECM dominate matches for the most part in group play with major cheese builds ruling the day. Many new mechs released, but hey that isn't the new content you are looking4.

All in all the game is a long ways away from really having the depth and balance in mechs/matches that is needed to retain players. Yes, the cry of its a group/team game is here as usual, but if MWO can't retain new players long enough to get them into groups it will always be this smallish community game it is now.

I love the concept of MWO, but the dev's really need to rethink some important aspects of the games internal thinking if it is here to stay, just my 2cents.

So, imho the game is in snail pace from right about where you left, slow slow going.

[HRR Insanity]

Team Leader, on 04 March 2013 - 01:49 PM, said:

500mc for a tactical nuke that instantly ends the match, 250 mc for EMP which disable the enemy team for 4 minutes

Please don't forget the 'Gold' ammunition (available for MC only) that ignores external armor and only does internal damage.

You can only put a ton of 'Gold' ammo on a 'Mech, but that's usually enough.

[Hawkeye 72]

Sybreed has a point here with his post

Rewind 7-10 months and there were debates about coolant flush. People who started threads supporting the idea were bashed pretty heavily on the forums. There was a large contingent then that opposed such a feature and PGI appeared to move that direction.

Yes he did not poll the community, but based on his experience (and my own recollection), coolant flush was a no go

[Kyone Akashi]

ohtochooseaname, on 04 March 2013 - 01:39 PM, said:

For the Cicada to load the same loadout as a 3L, it necessarily has to be slower. In fact, it would likely be going 130 kph to be competitive due to engine weight increases past 300. It could kill a 3L in a 1v1 if the 3L were a terrible shot, but it would be much easier for everything else to kill the Cicada, so I don't see it as a problem. Simplistically, it would be the rock to the 3L's scissors to everyone else's paper.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...4cf7eee350eef77
I've left out the 3 tons for the launchers, obviously.

And you are forgetting about Speed Tweak and MWO's hard cap on velocity, so if you really wanted you could build this here ...
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...df80e935592e24f
... and be just as fast as the Raven..

[Serapth]

Team Leader, on 04 March 2013 - 01:51 PM, said:

I think you're forgetting mech assault

Well, im still trying to!

[Empyrus]

No to Coolant Flush. If it has to be implemented, give us the canonical Coolant Pods (when they become available), as they have enough drawbacks.

[Sybreed]

Oppresor, on 04 March 2013 - 01:33 PM, said:

For me it's a 100% Yay. This brings the reality of the Alpha Strike, Alpha Strike, Flush, Alpha Strike, Alpha Strike etc, tactic back into MechWarrior and make no mistake this tactic works, especially if you are falling back.

Tactic? It'll be the norm.

[Terror Teddy]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 04 March 2013 - 01:47 PM, said:

at least it wasnt mechassault

I have no idea what you are talking about but that was not a mechwarrior or battletech game.

[Ngamok]

FrostCollar, on 04 March 2013 - 11:29 AM, said:

Really? Whoever had that idea deserves to be taken out back and horse-whipped.
I'm pretty happy with the hero Cicada myself and might just pick one up. I do wish it was more surprising (JJs might have been nice) but the missile slots alone might be fun. I already have a 3M and 2A anyways. It might be a good way to get to those elite skills.



You'd have a mech able to go as fast as a RVN-3L that has ECM yet is able to pack another laser and still have some tons left for superior armor and more heatsinks. That would be quite painful to face.

No, build it and tell me what you are gonna miss.

hammerreborn, on 04 March 2013 - 11:31 AM, said:

Because you have to actually pay $$ to get the X-5 that not only makes all cicadas obsolete, it even makes the 3L and 2D obsolete (because of the armor/weapon advantages it'll gain)? While unless you're stupid you don't have to pay for the 3L or 2D...

Is this really an argument?

No, I challenge you to build one that goes as fast with the same armor. You can't because it's heavier and needs a bigger engine.

[SgtMagor]

not enough info to have an opinion yet, waiting for Bryan to post in the CChair

[Monky]

Oh man I wonder if we can have mobile field bays to repair in as well during a match! And how about Magma Cannons!!!!!!!!!!!

[Dataman]

ah I was late by couple of minutes. I was thinking same thing, especially about artillery and airstrike.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Sybreed, on 04 March 2013 - 01:50 PM, said:

huh march update?

link? I missed that

Sybreed, on 04 March 2013 - 01:51 PM, said:

nah, tactical nuke you get that after a 5 mechs kill streak.

Can't wait for melee to be in the game so I can add the "commando" module that makes my melee attacks get double the range...

I cant wait to use commandos as melee weapons

HRR Insanity, on 04 March 2013 - 01:52 PM, said:

Please don't forget the 'Gold' ammunition (available for MC only) that ignores external armor and only does internal damage.

You can only put a ton of 'Gold' ammo on a 'Mech, but that's usually enough.

Gold ammo also has case built in

[Oppresor]

Extinction, on 04 March 2013 - 01:02 PM, said:

Hi there,
i left game couple of months ago cause game content was realy tiny....... handfull of maps with laughable variantions.
So what has changed after half a year of "Beta" (roflmao). Do we soon reach Alpha status?

No Fun aside... ist there any SIGNIFICANT new Content? With significant are NOT MECHS meant. How many maps are the now (REAL Maps not old one at night or with some snowflakes). Any Meta game now present? Factions? Factionwarfare?
And is there finaly a solution to Premade vs Premade and Random vs Random queue? (holy **** pls dont tell me its still Premade PUG-stomping with no real matchmaking after more than 6 MONTH!!!!!!!)

I realy dont know about all this and i dont wana read the whole Forum.
And NO THIS IS NO TROLL post. I just wana know if they did ANYTHING to solve the REAL Problems or if its still bringing out Mechs and cosmetics to make money for a unfinished game.
I loved Mechwarrior online and made a founder-account to realy support the game.

Keep the faith MechWarrior; the Inner Sphere needs you.

There have been changes, small ones, but they add up in the great scheme of things. We have seen improvements in detail, a new scenario (Alpine) and some new night missions. Probably the most controversial thing to hit Mech recently is the introduction of the Spider; in the right hands and with an ERPPC it can be used to actively hunt Jenner's (Yes I know it's just another Mech, but an interesting one).

The best thing to do is keep checking in as you are and come back when you are ready; in the meantime have a look at MechWarrior Tactics and give us your view of it. There are quite a few MechWarrior's that started with Mech Commander who will be very interested.

[Sybreed]

Hawkeye 72, on 04 March 2013 - 01:52 PM, said:

Sybreed has a point here with his post

Rewind 7-10 months and there were debates about coolant flush. People who started threads supporting the idea were bashed pretty heavily on the forums. There was a large contingent then that opposed such a feature and PGI appeared to move that direction.

Yes he did not poll the community, but based on his experience (and my own recollection), coolant flush was a no go

Yup, people who started playing the closed beta back in june (like me and Hawkeye) read and participated in several threads about this, hence the reason why I made this thread. Most experienced players felt coolant flush was a bad idea back then and I think that feeling hasn't changed.

[Sleipnir]

SuperJoe, on 04 March 2013 - 01:36 PM, said:

yes i wanted this game to be just like mechwarrior 4 because that game wasn't hell at all.

MW4 was the most popular Mech game (and also the only one with a functional community) for a decade...surely we wouldn't want THAT again...oh no wait.

I agree that coolant flush could be gamebreaking, but the statement you just made is ridiculous.

[Sybreed]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 04 March 2013 - 01:58 PM, said:

link? I missed that

dude it's in the freaking front page are you real

[Monky]

Coolant flush no, at all, ever. Arty and Air strikes yes. Discount deal on unlimited use (1 per match but no limit to usage overall) for one month with MC. C-Bill cost of 100k per otherwise.

[ohtochooseaname]

Kyone Akashi, on 04 March 2013 - 01:52 PM, said:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...4cf7eee350eef77
I've left out the 3 tons for the launchers, obviously.

And you are forgetting about Speed Tweak and MWO's hard cap on velocity, so if you really wanted you could build this here ...
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...df80e935592e24f
... and be just as fast as the Raven..

Ever ran 4 ML's on a Cicada? Even with 5 extra tons of heatsinks, it overheats. Without those, and with streaks, it'd be a disaster. Hell, the 3L with 2 ML's and 2 Streaks and 2 heatsinks overheats quite frequently. Again, 340 engine = 5.5 tons heavier than 295 engine, which means you can't load it down the same (plus higher running heat, I think). Grant it, maybe 4 SL's would give it an advantage somewhere, but most people don't consider that option due to the short range/low alpha.