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[Rex Budman]

Does anyone feel Artemis could do a little more in terms of grouping SRM?

It just seems the payoff isn't that decent when paying for the extra costs, slots and tonnage...

I don't know... What do you missle users think?

[Joseph Mallan]

No.

[Zaptruder]

Yes.

[F lan Ker]

S!

Artemis was rendered useless after ECM implementation, not worth have 1 ton extra and added ammo cost for benefits you do not even get under ECM. Go figure.

[Joseph Mallan]

ECCM makes missiles useful... try it sometime.

[Rifter]

Yes it needs a buff, expecially at the ridiculas ammo prices we are paying.

If they reduce ammo prices then sure its fine but if im paying twice as much for ammo and then ontop of that paying for the system install itself and a ton/crit slot per launcher as well it had better be twice as effective as non artemis.

[F lan Ker]

S!

Not sure about buffing but at least cut the cost of it due ECM. Costs vs benefit are now not endorsing to use it. Will see in a while when the game has found it's balance better between stuff.

[Joseph Mallan]

Love people wanting to change prices that have been in place for almost 30 years. War ain't cheap. Accept it!

[Rifter]

Joseph Mallan, on 10 December 2012 - 05:51 AM, said:

Love people wanting to change prices that have been in place for almost 30 years. War ain't cheap. Accept it!

I dont know what you are talking about artemis has been in for two months, barely 30 days let alone years.

[Pr8Dator]

I think there should be an option to apply Artemis only to LRM and not SRM... taking up that extra slot really makes no sense.

[Rex Budman]

The cost isn't the issue. It's not really an "issue".

I just feel Artemis should do a little more for grouping. You pay for the extra tonnes/cost but don't really get much in return. It does make a difference, but it could be a little better.

[King Arthur IV]

does it visually make a difference? i dont own it and yet but been wondering, do they like not fly in a X? do they converge onto a point? does anyone here have all the missle upgrades on the same mech??? i would love to see this in action.

[Joseph Mallan]

Rifter, on 10 December 2012 - 05:53 AM, said:

I dont know what you are talking about artemis has been in for two months, barely 30 days let alone years.

Artemis has been a factor in TT for well on 28 years. the price is the norm per ton of ammo. personally I think it was wrong for the Devs to slash the price of the Atlas-K as they did.

We could have the Atlas-S now for a much cheaper non XL build.

AS7-S - A very basic 3050's era FedCom upgrade of the standard Atlas, the S model removed five heat sinks from the design, upgrading the rest to Double Heat Sinks. The weight savings are used to add two rear firing Coventry T4H Streak SRM-2[launchers, giving the Atlas increased protection in its rear arc of fire.

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 10 December 2012 - 06:17 AM.

[Rex Budman]

King Arthur IV, on 10 December 2012 - 06:13 AM, said:

does it visually make a difference? i dont own it and yet but been wondering, do they like not fly in a X? do they converge onto a point? does anyone here have all the missle upgrades on the same mech??? i would love to see this in action.

They visually make a difference. They sort of converge at one point but spread over distance in an erratic fashion. The convergence isn't dramatic, though. there re still clear rouge missles and straddlers in the bunch.

I don't think people care about them much because they are seldom used (imo). But they are quite a nice weapon to have - if streaks have a 100% hit chance, then artemis should at least have tighter grouping, and perhaps more group travel range before they go everywhere.

They are a lot of fun to use at the moment anyway but I thought I'd just get everyones opinion on it.

[Vassago Rain]

You need to get rid of their ECM.

[Rex Budman]

Vassago Rain, on 10 December 2012 - 06:19 AM, said:

You need to get rid of their ECM.

What on Earth are you talking about?

[Joseph Mallan]

he's talking about using ECCM... I think

[Havyek]

LRMs and SRMs are fine, ECM is fine.

ECM is $#%$#@%$# maddening when you can't shoot a damned thing because you're being jammed, but it's worse when the "scout" 'Mech that has ECM has f----d off somewhere to die alone than stay with the group and help run ECCM so that you can kill their ECM 'Mech.

In organized matches I'd like to run/see run more brawlers with TAG to help with LRM support, but I'm running Cataphracts now so no missile support for me.

As to SRMs, I have a Catapult that I had Artemis on for LRM support, changed it to a SRM brawler and I do notice a much tighter grouping with the SRMs + Artemis.

Is it something "needed"? No. If I didn't already have it on the Cat I wouldn't pay to add it, but it's not worth getting rid of because it does provide a benefit. I do notice that the grouping is tight enough that I can consistently hit at 200m, however SRMs have always been more effective as point blank blasting weapons.

Edited by BDU Havoc, 10 December 2012 - 06:26 AM.

[Clay Pigeon]

Joseph Mallan, on 10 December 2012 - 06:16 AM, said:

Artemis has been a factor in TT for well on 28 years. the price is the norm per ton of ammo. personally I think it was wrong for the Devs to slash the price of the Atlas-K as they did.

We could have the Atlas-S now for a much cheaper non XL build.

AS7-S - A very basic 3050's era FedCom upgrade of the standard Atlas, the S model removed five heat sinks from the design, upgrading the rest to Double Heat Sinks. The weight savings are used to add two rear firing Coventry T4H Streak SRM-2[launchers, giving the Atlas increased protection in its rear arc of fire.

It's only 3049 though.

[Rex Budman]

BDU Havoc, on 10 December 2012 - 06:21 AM, said:

LRMs and SRMs are fine, ECM is fine.

ECM is $#%$#@%$# maddening when you can't shoot a damned thing because you're being jammed, but it's worse when the "scout" 'Mech that has ECM has f----d off somewhere to die alone than stay with the group and help run ECCM so that you can kill their ECM 'Mech.

In organized matches I'd like to run/see run more brawlers with TAG to help with LRM support, but I'm running Cataphracts now so no missile support for me.

What the hell are you all talking about? What thread is this?

This is about Artemis missle grouping, not ECM nor is it about the length of time Artemis has been in the game or their cost back in 1876...

I think reading posts is a thing of the past now, and I'm just old fashioned...

Edited by Rex Budman, 10 December 2012 - 06:23 AM.