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[soarra]

Dukarriope, on 12 December 2012 - 04:37 PM, said:

If this was still truly beta they wouldn't have declared that no further wipes would be in place. To be honest.

for this type of game does it really matter?
IF they wiped it at launch we would have most of our mechs and cbils have in a week or 2

[Gabrielpendragon]

Xostriyad, on 11 December 2012 - 07:40 AM, said:

OK, look, here's the problem.

*When I install a patch and the first thought in my mid is "gee what new bugs are in this one, what old bugs will suddenly resurface, what undocumented changes will occurs"

*The development team releases ninja patches that they fail to even acknowledge what they are attemping to fix so we don't even know what to say to them like "yea, you fixed it" OR "no, I am still experiancing it"

Is more of an alpha or a closed beta mind set. Not a point in the game where you are selling virtual christmas lights for a virtual mech in a freaking game, that seems to be developed like a bunch of college students just pushing out code as fast as they can while screaming "to hell with proper documentation!" for more than REAL christmas lights.


When it was in closed beta I said "hey, it's beta, random things are going to pop up." But then they go open, with massive money grabs left and right, and this has to be one of the WORST open betas I've seen in a damn long time. Minecraft beta was only worse than this and that was when just one guy was doing all the programming.

Kinda like most mmos that are available? Eve online has been running for ten years and is technically still a beta game since launch was never officially announced...

Every tuesday in every game i play its the lets see what new broken things are in the game now. Its the state of online gaming more then anything else, things always will be needing fixing. Hell Diablo 2 had been getting patches up until d3 launched, it still might be idk.

Even if the advertisements dont say it the website says it plain as day. Mechwarrior online beta.

Even in an open beta, we are still beta testers. Things costing real money? kinda like the founders packages? If that is the case this game has been retail since before the beta even started.

[Particle Man]

It's beta because they say it is.

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[PANZERBUNNY]

I would start a new job and as an excuse for my bad work ethics, say these are my "Beta shifts", but I doubt it would hold up for very long.

!Beta excuse is dead. Long live the Beta!

[Particle Man]

also, reporting bugs and issues means reporting them to the proper people. Crying about things you dont like on the forums isnt reporting bugs.

but it's still beta, because they say it is.

Edited by Particle Man, 12 December 2012 - 04:57 PM.

[soarra]

PANZERBUNNY, on 12 December 2012 - 04:56 PM, said:

I would start a new job and as an excuse for my bad work ethics, say these are my "Beta shifts", but I doubt it would hold up for very long.

!Beta excuse is dead. Long live the Beta!

wow i don't even know where to start with this one. Screwing up flipping burgers or software development is a bit different.

[Franchi]

Dukarriope, on 12 December 2012 - 04:37 PM, said:

If this was still truly beta they wouldn't have declared that no further wipes would be in place. To be honest.

THIS!!!!!

PGI for the love of god have one more total wipe when you "launch" the game.

Then I will call it a beta, until then the gold shield defense force can call it a beta all they want, it is still LAUNCHED.

[Beo Vulf]

Ghoststeel, on 11 December 2012 - 07:33 AM, said:

Almost every thread I read someone in there states that they can't believe PGI did something without testing it first. Do these people not understand that we are the testers? Everyone playing right now is a beta tester. I have seen some people argue that it stopped being beta when they started charging for things. I have been playing since open beta started and I haven't been charged anything. If someone chooses to pay money for a beta game that was their decision, they where not charged anything.
I have also noticed on the forums how people think that by insulting PGI and the devs they can get things changed. If there is something about the game you don't like or think isn't working the way it should then by all means make a post about it, we are beta testers and it is our job to do so. The devs need to know how we feel about the game not how we feel about them. If they read a post that insults them they are not going to take it seriously. When you post, state what the problem is, state what if any ideas you have to fix it and do it with without insulting the devs or anyone else and they might actually listen to what you have to say.

Games like every other product manufactured goes through various stages one of those stages is internal testing. That means the company tests the code before implementing it. We as BETA testers are external testers. There are differences between internal, and external testing and there are reasons for those differences. So please don't make sweeping statements on subjects you have no knowledge of. As to the rest of your post I agree with it.

[Throat Punch]

soarra, on 12 December 2012 - 05:01 PM, said:

wow i don't even know where to start with this one. Screwing up flipping burgers or software development is a bit different.

Mechwarrior Online hangs from a lawn beside the descriptive advantage. Underneath the diagram boils the apt carpet. Mechwarrior Online jumps open beta under the recreational music. Near a banner prose jumps the implied landlord. Will Mechwarrior Online trek across open beta?

[Odins Fist]

After you start accepting "REAL" money for good and services, "even in "CLOSED BETA", some get the impression that a product has been brought to market..
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Then in an "OPEN BETA" where anyone can download said product, and then "BUY" with real money, goods and services, some people get the impression that "BETA" is not the correct term anymore.
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What Company that you know off sells an "ACTUAL" product "BEFORE" it is out of testing..??
I can't remember the last time I bought a "CAR" or anything else that was supposed to be in "BETA" testing stage.
I understand the need to finance a project, that's no issue, the issue is whether or not MWO is a product that has been brought to market, finished or not... Once you make available to the "general public" your product, and sell goods an services, the product is for sale. Call it what you want, just don't be surprised if "informed" people call it for what it is..
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Do you see the issue here..?? You should...

[PANZERBUNNY]

Franchi, on 12 December 2012 - 05:17 PM, said:

THIS!!!!!

PGI for the love of god have one more total wipe when you "launch" the game.

Then I will call it a beta, until then the gold shield defense force can call it a beta all they want, it is still LAUNCHED.

If they wipe this game again, after saying we'd keep our stuff, I'm done. SOOOO done.

Doesn't matter how much I love Battletech.

This would be an ultimate fail for their product.

I'm already seeing a drop in how many people were always online playing months ago.

Edited by PANZERBUNNY, 12 December 2012 - 05:31 PM.

[Greyfyl]

PANZERBUNNY, on 12 December 2012 - 04:56 PM, said:

I would start a new job and as an excuse for my bad work ethics, say these are my "Beta shifts", but I doubt it would hold up for very long.

!Beta excuse is dead. Long live the Beta!

I'm going to start using this excuse at work as well. When a new prototype is done, I will brush any and all issues aside with one swipe of my 'its just a beta' wand.

Maybe I could sell 'It's a Beta' wands at the Wal-Mart. No human would ever have to claim responsibility for anything ever again!

Edited by Greyfyl, 12 December 2012 - 05:31 PM.

[Franchi]

PANZERBUNNY, on 12 December 2012 - 05:29 PM, said:

If they wipe this game again, after saying we'd keep our stuff, I'm done. SOOOO done.

Doesn't matter how much I love Battletech.

This would be an ultimate fail for their product.

I'm already seeing a drop in how many people were always online playing months ago.

I know and they wont do it for that reason and that is why its LAUNCHED.

[PANZERBUNNY]

Like, I'm not sure if most of the players could ethically hype the game up for their friends anymore.

It honestly feels like I'm trapped here as I foolishly started my premium time. heh.

Edited by PANZERBUNNY, 12 December 2012 - 05:35 PM.

[Franchi]

PANZERBUNNY, on 12 December 2012 - 05:34 PM, said:

Like, I'm not sure if most of the players could ethically hype the game up for their friends anymore.

It honestly feels like I'm trapped here as I foolishly started my premium time. heh.

When I got into closed beta I told ALL of my gaming friends, now I don't even mention it. The new player experience combined with bugs that will get you killed at least once an hour make it unplayable unless you really REALLY love stompy robots.

[Windies]

Franchi, on 12 December 2012 - 05:54 PM, said:

When I got into closed beta I told ALL of my gaming friends, now I don't even mention it. The new player experience combined with bugs that will get you killed at least once an hour make it unplayable unless you really REALLY love stompy robots.

I recommended it to my friends and they all said it sucked. The people I used to play with in the community TS from CB back in August/September, are never even logged in anymore except for like 4/50 at any one time.

[PANZERBUNNY]

More money should have been spent or should be spent to stem the tide of leaking blood and excitement from this title, but it may already be too late.

I'm normally an optimist, but it's fairly difficult to see the bright white light at the end of the tunnel and it not be the death knell of Mechwarrior.

[Reaps Sorrow]

To those who are spending money and do not believe that the game is worth it...stop. To those who are spending real money and having a good time.....(like me)...continue. Please provide feedback about bugs and how game should be progressing, it will go somewhere. If you have given up on this game...again, stop playing, or give feedback. It really is a simple business model, if PGI is making money off of their BETA? who can blame em. We are the customer base, en mass we will either make this game be what we want in time or not......choose.

[N0MAD]

I got a few friends that had never played MW to try the game, after a few days they went back to GW2, it wasnt because of bugs or anything but that they needed certain skills to pilot a mech that is not required in other games. So they are back to farming a couple of misions to pick up loots to increase their Bank. Is it the games fault that it requires skill to actually drive,aim, be tactical and actually use your brain? If you look at most of the MMOs around they have been designed for the mass of button mashing Zombies that get their ego boost from getting an Elite drop (loot) from an NPC boss killed by a Zerg of Zombies. Each to his own, but dont blame the game for peoples personal taste.

[Xander Pappyson]

soarra, on 11 December 2012 - 07:35 AM, said:

I don't think people have a clue about a lot of things, including the difference in testing internally and when you put it on the server. Bugs happen and anyone who knows programming knows this.
If people would start leaving constructive criticism instead of just complaining it would be a lot better.

NO but I know how to find you on the forums. so what is your beef??