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#201 Nik Van Rhijn

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 02:27 AM

I think that Dire's excllent "take" on the Marauder shows just what could be done. I've liked FD's take on all the mechs so far, I think he could even make the Ost series look good. The mech line up just has so many holes in without them, especially at 45 and 55 tons. This is exacerbated by the fact that JJs are only available on mechs that are fitted with them. It looks as if JJs will be useful rather than making you a skeet target.

#202 DirePhoenix

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 06:47 AM

View PostSteinar Bergstol, on 24 May 2012 - 12:13 AM, said:


That's... not bad, actually. I could live with that. Move the shoulderjoints forwards a bit and then make some changes to the cockpit windows so it looks a little less like a Catapult torso and I think we've got a good candidate for a Marauder. It's certainly a lot more recognizable as a marauder than the Project Phoenix version.


Thanks! This was just a quick cut 'n' paste job with a few transformations (image flips, resizes, etc.), and I drew in the rest of the rear torso that was hidden by the Catapult arm that I removed.

I'm actually working on another version where I move the arms a little forward and lower, so that the shoulder is just below that faction logo. I'm also going to be doing some more work to the cockpit to make the scale of the 'mech look a little bigger (and make the cockpit look like less of a giant target than the Catapult), remove the torso Catapult hardpoints, and recolor the whole thing. The hardest thing I think will be trying to position the torso and arms so they wouldn't get in the way of the legs when torso twisting.

View PostFoòóoo, on 23 May 2012 - 11:16 PM, said:

Haha, nice job Dire.

It looks a little "stumpy" but imo it gives it a very tough look, not frail (ish) like the original designs.

Would whoever holds the rights still get annoyed by FD doing a marauder like that ? Is that far enough away from the "unseen" that its not a problem ?


Thanks! I'm actually pretty sure that there would be no problem in making a Marauder like this. After all, *now* you're not copying a Glaug Officer's BattlePod (artwork which doesn't actually belong to Harmony Gold anyway), you're copying parts of the Cataphract and Catapult. If there's no issue with the Cataphract, there should be no issue with the Marauder.

#203 XTRMNTR2K

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 08:21 AM

View PostDirePhoenix, on 24 May 2012 - 06:47 AM, said:

I'm actually working on another version where I move the arms a little forward and lower, so that the shoulder is just below that faction logo. I'm also going to be doing some more work to the cockpit to make the scale of the 'mech look a little bigger (and make the cockpit look like less of a giant target than the Catapult), remove the torso Catapult hardpoints, and recolor the whole thing. The hardest thing I think will be trying to position the torso and arms so they wouldn't get in the way of the legs when torso twisting.


Can't wait to see the improved version. The things you mention are pretty much all of the issues I have with first one. I definately wouldn't mind piloting a Marauder if it looked similar to your design. Given that FD even managed to make the Centurion look badass, I'm sure he could pull off something great (and similar?) in any case.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 08:28 PM

Great job Dire. I really like that Marauder.

#205 LordDeathStrike

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 08:31 PM

View PostDirePhoenix, on 23 May 2012 - 05:31 PM, said:

So with the Cataphract being released, and that 'Mech being basically 3/5ths of a Marauder already, I decided to go ahead and do a quick slap-chop photoshop job and try and put together the rest of the pieces. I've still got some work to do to get it looking decent, but this should be enough to give everyone a good enough idea..

Behold! A MWO Marauder!

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is that a catapult torso with 2 cataphract right arms and a dorsel gun?

#206 Rot Wulf

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 08:34 PM

View PostLordDeathStrike, on 25 May 2012 - 08:31 PM, said:

is that a catapult torso with 2 cataphract right arms and a dorsel gun?


I think so, I would love to see them bash kit some of the unseen back into the game. Let HGH have their art, be bold make your own PGI!!!!

Locust for 500 please Alex.... the best original TT scout mech.

#207 Jake Steel

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 08:39 PM

a maurader would be nice, id give it a guass rifle cuz im all about guass rifles :D

#208 Jaggar Boo

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 08:49 PM

Ohh I saw the Scorpion on that list. Make it make it make it!

#209 McDuff

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 09:02 PM

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All I can say is this.. If FD can make this mech show up in this game and call it a Marauder legally. I will buy it, I will buy all FD redesigns of the unseen and happily pilot them and conquer.

#210 Kid Weeb

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 09:04 PM

We can only hope that the Unseen will be in a future release of this game.

#211 McDuff

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 09:05 PM

View PostLordDeathStrike, on 25 May 2012 - 08:31 PM, said:

is that a catapult torso with 2 cataphract right arms and a dorsel gun?


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Ohh Hell yeah!!!! Bring It!!!

Edited by McDuff, 25 May 2012 - 09:06 PM.


#212 Scrawny Cowboy

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 10:56 PM

View PostMcDuff, on 25 May 2012 - 09:02 PM, said:

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All I can say is this.. If FD can make this mech show up in this game and call it a Marauder legally. I will buy it, I will buy all FD redesigns of the unseen and happily pilot them and conquer.


Legs look a 'lil bulky at the hips. But hey, if it would pass as a legal design, I'll love it all the same.





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