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#1101 Vulpesveritas

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 02:08 AM

Updated 11/17/2012.

Seems to be a pretty good week to get a BotW.

#1102 BoomerZ

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 03:25 AM

Nice pointers...but we would have to double them prices in the UK.. :(

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 07:11 AM

Hi there!
1st: I' am pretty new to mwo world, but well aware of all previous mw production.
2nt: my intervention would probably be morelike a technical discussion rather than a wide discussion on joysticks' selection.
Anyway I try to ask somebody among you for help! I have got a fantastic Logitech EXTREME 3D PRO, which I often use playing flight simulators and I must tell it really worths each euro I spent! But when I run MWO, attempting to configure my joystick in the control configuration page, I have absolutely no response from it, it's dead! I run MWO with Win7 64 bit and Logitech drivers are perfectly updated.
Is there any known problem with MWO and this particular peripheral? Can somebody help please???
Thank you a lot!

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 09:09 AM

Finished building my PC and played MWO for the first time last night.

Learned a very HARD lesson about video cards and thought i'd post it here for anybody else:

I got me an ASUS AMD Radeon 7950 3GB GPU overclocked addition. The card is working perfectly but there's only one problem: Because it takes up three PCI slots due to the fact it has two huge heat sinks built in, the video card is very heavy. The card sagged a little bit and i didn't think much about it until a couple hours in game when i keep losing signal to my Monitor. I found out after a couple hours of troubleshooting that the GPU is so heavy and powerful that it managed to vibrate itself loose enough from the PCIe slot to no longer be properly plugged in.

I solved this problem by taking some zip ties that came with my PSU's package and created a "loop chain" that goes from my video card to a part on the top/inside of my case. I tightened the loops until the tightness of the chain forced the GPU back in place into the PCIe slot.

After that it never came out of place and everything was fine after that.

Lesson learned: Never purchase a video card that takes up more that two PCIe slots! They're too heavy! Get two video cards and cross fire them or something if you have to in order to get whatever performance you're looking for or you'll end up returning your card or improvising like me cuz i'm greedy and wanted a really big and bad GPU instead of getting a two of them like i was supposed to, haha.

I hope this posts helps anybody shopping for a GPU. :(

Edited by XxDRxDEATHxX, 17 November 2012 - 09:11 AM.


#1105 Oderint dum Metuant

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 01:20 PM

View PostBoomerZ, on 17 November 2012 - 03:25 AM, said:

Nice pointers...but we would have to double them prices in the UK.. :huh:


Truth, however even so it's still within the budget build area of PC's.

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 09:22 AM

The only problem with conventional televisions is. . all input is @ 60Mhz, and the TV upscales it.

This results in horrible half second plus input lag on my[admittedly older] 42" samsung

I've done 3 screen eyefinity, but I shudder to think about the necessary hardware to drive some of those insane multi monitor setups >.>

Especially with no optimizations to the core program in MwO at this time ;)

#1107 Herrmann van Hinden

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 09:03 AM

Two things (no, three): 1. I hate not being able to send a "Carriage Return" in this Forum..... 2. This is a great Posting on the first place of this thread! 3. I have tried to get a x52 Pro to work with MWO a few weeks ago, when using Win7, it did not work at all. It would be great to collect some sort of "positive list" which configuration really worked with the game and to add this to the Initial posting, so we can see how they work together with MWO. So far, I tried a lot of ticks in the past. Even the CH Products and Thustmaster sticks years ago. To be honest.... they all sucked, because they were rarely working at all. Even the Saitek is a poor Piece of plastic, but it is at least supported by most games. However, if the big Logitech is really working.... I think that might be the choice for Mechwarriors.... at least if the Artmis sucks or, which I expect, will never be released to market......

#1108 Sir Roland MXIII

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 01:10 PM

Well, the last time the OP was updated was September... what GPU is best in the 250-300 USD range now? I'm curious, despite the fact I won't be able to get it until January - my CPU heatsink is higher priority since the stock one is utter garbage and needs replacing ASAP.

EDIT - I should say that, I assume not much has changed since then, so if going a bit above 300 USD for a Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 Boost GPU is still a good choice then that's all I need to know, I guess.

Edited by Sir Roland MXIII, 19 November 2012 - 02:37 PM.


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Posted 19 November 2012 - 01:41 PM

controler help needed has anyone tryed the old X-Box game controler yet form the game Stell Battalion i know there was some adaptors for making the old game pad work on PC so it should work with all those 40 buttions and 2 joysticks and peddels i have the game myself but no adaptor to the PC yet so ordering one shortley if anyone can help please drop me a line
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Edited by GrimReeper, 19 November 2012 - 02:35 PM.


#1110 Darkhands

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 04:06 PM

These are fantastic builds, thanks for your efforts!

Guys... AMD is recommended for now, because they're ahead in the performance/dollar ratio at this time. If/when Intel grabs that spot back, I'm sure an Intel setup would be recommended. They're not AMD or Intel specific builds.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 07:23 PM

Excuse me, I am afraid that I know little about CPU's. I am planning on getting an Intel CORE 2 QUAD Q6600 2.4 GHZ CPU. It says here that it is in a Socket 775. I have no idea if this will run MWO. If anyone could dispell my fears, it would be greatly appreciated. (Also, I would like any response as soon as possible. I can't wait to get on and smash the Devs this Thursday!)

#1112 Vulpesveritas

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 10:52 PM

View PostRovertoo, on 19 November 2012 - 07:23 PM, said:

Excuse me, I am afraid that I know little about CPU's. I am planning on getting an Intel CORE 2 QUAD Q6600 2.4 GHZ CPU. It says here that it is in a Socket 775. I have no idea if this will run MWO. If anyone could dispell my fears, it would be greatly appreciated. (Also, I would like any response as soon as possible. I can't wait to get on and smash the Devs this Thursday!)

That CPU is quite capable of playing MWO, although you will want to consider upgrading in the future when you have the budget for it. (I would recommend within the next two to three years at the most)

#1113 Vulpesveritas

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 10:55 PM

View PostSir Roland MXIII, on 19 November 2012 - 01:10 PM, said:

Well, the last time the OP was updated was September... what GPU is best in the 250-300 USD range now? I'm curious, despite the fact I won't be able to get it until January - my CPU heatsink is higher priority since the stock one is utter garbage and needs replacing ASAP.

EDIT - I should say that, I assume not much has changed since then, so if going a bit above 300 USD for a Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 Boost GPU is still a good choice then that's all I need to know, I guess.

You can pick up a 7950 for around $299 right now, and with the new catalyst drivers (12.11) it's a good bit faster than the 660ti.
Of course the 660ti is more energy-efficient and smaller though, so there's a trade off.

#1114 Sir Roland MXIII

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 01:10 AM

View PostVulpesveritas, on 19 November 2012 - 10:55 PM, said:

You can pick up a 7950 for around $299 right now, and with the new catalyst drivers (12.11) it's a good bit faster than the 660ti.
Of course the 660ti is more energy-efficient and smaller though, so there's a trade off.


I've got more room for wattage than I can use, currently have a 750w that's backed up by a secondary 250w specifically or PCI-E GPUs - so power hungy GPUs are welcome. Not sure I can even afford enough graphics power to exceed that setup, really. Wouldn't mind tryin', but...

Although, with Richland around 6 months out, I plan to hold off until I know what those "Trinity 2.0" APUs will Crossfire with. I highly doubt it'll be 7950 level, but if it's able to synch with a 7-thousand-something that's 2gb+ of DDR5, I'll happily pay for that even it's less powerful than a 7950 Boost.

If it's not at or above that VRAM threshold, then I'll go ahead and grab a 7950, or a 7970 if they've come into my range by then.

#1115 Darkhands

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 10:22 PM

View PostVulpesveritas, on 28 October 2012 - 08:22 PM, said:

I may do this.
Though I will have to first start doing updates again. Soon enough.


I second the request for black friday builds... I may just build a PC in the $1200 range this Friday...

Edited by Darkhands, 20 November 2012 - 10:22 PM.


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Posted 21 November 2012 - 12:07 AM

Where is GeForce 630 GT DD3?
I dont need to play this game 2000*xxxx due the small monitor(only 19'') and this is not only gaming PC so i dont need SUPER good graph card.I have no prob playing with 1152*864 at stable 30 fps(i know stable fps in this game is a dream but w/e)
I have now old GeForce 9500 GT and considering which one i should buy for upgrade.And i dont have so much money too.Max 75 dollars :x .

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:51 AM

View PostJudgeDeathCZ, on 21 November 2012 - 12:07 AM, said:

Where is GeForce 630 GT DD3?
I dont need to play this game 2000*xxxx due the small monitor(only 19'') and this is not only gaming PC so i dont need SUPER good graph card.I have no prob playing with 1152*864 at stable 30 fps(i know stable fps in this game is a dream but w/e)
I have now old GeForce 9500 GT and considering which one i should buy for upgrade.And i dont have so much money too.Max 75 dollars :x .

Slower than it's price point competition. The 6450 is slightly faster at $50 to my knowledge while being the same price or cheaper depending on what card you get.
At $75, This sapphire 6670 looks to be your best bet on newegg currently; http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814102988 and will be considerably faster than a GT 630 or a HD 6450.

Edited by Vulpesveritas, 21 November 2012 - 04:51 AM.


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Posted 21 November 2012 - 08:59 AM

This is a wonderful post! very intuitive. I especially like that, if you have not used a stick, you say so, it gives the reviews a freshness and will help me make a decision. I will say that I managed to play with the microsoft ffb pro throughout the earlier machinations of MW I believe it came out around MW2. I believe I still have it somewhere gathering dust, I did manage to find an USB adapter for it at one time, the biggest problem for me, it will not work with windows 7, in no way shape or form (or this post would be moot for me) I did play with many sticks of that period, all of the saitek guys and some logi, and the sidewinder ffb pro had them all beat handsdown. I will read your notes many times before I decide on a stick, should I go cheap or should I spend the money and answer to the honey ;). I will most assuredly be awaiting the general release of the Artemis, and the price point, I'm guessing around $300 or so, maybe a bit more. from my reccolections, most of the "best" pilots were keyboard jockeys, at least throughout my BZ days in MW3. I keep trying to learn and utilize the keyboard, but it just is not compact enough for my needs, if I was a touch typist, maybe, but sadly I'm not. As an adendum, if anyone finds out that there is a patch to make MY sidewinder work with win 7 I would be very appreciative :( (not gonna happen I think)

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 06:32 PM

For those that haven't seen, black friday-cyber monday deals are here; http://mwomercs.com/...riday-pcs-2012/

Don't expect a BotW update till Thursday or Friday.

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 08:33 AM

ok so i have a WINDOWS7 INSPIRON N4010 and i went to yourgamers-game-o-meter and i got this




We are sorry, the Game-o-Meter is unable to calculate a performance estimate for your computer.It is unable to determine how well Mechwarrior Online runs on your system. This may be because:
- Your processor or your video card is a very new model
- Your computer has a processor and video card combination that is very rare
- Or your processor or your video card is very old
If your system is new, this problem should resolve itself automatically as more data is submitted. Please try again in a few days.
  • Also note that Mechwarrior Online will most likely not run on your computer because...
  • The Game-o-Meter detects that your video card has 64 MB onboard video memory. You need to upgrade to a video card with at least 512 MB onboard video memory.
but i can run it BUT its so laggy when ever i play it. So i dont know what to do cause it also tells me when i start it up that i dont hav the right video card. again i can play it the graphics come in good but its laggier than an infinityward game and host is one baring lol.

PLZ HELP





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