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[Lakevren]

Now that I reread the list, the TX750 V2 should be tied with the XFX Core Edition Pro 750W, not to mention the Corsair TX750 V2 being cheaper. Source: http://www.jonnyguru...=Story&reid=230 and http://www.jonnyguru...=Story&reid=216

Anyways, just offering info. Can't include every good power supply on the list. However, you can indeed make a list of brands to avoid, heh. That might be easier. *COUGH*Diablotek*COUGH*.

Vulpesveritas, on 21 June 2012 - 01:26 PM, said:

and at $200, the AX850 has a win.

Good thing I bought my AX850 for $170.

[Odins Fist]

OMG... Diablotek... Can you say "FIRE HAZARD"..???
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BTW, I have been running the Corsair TX-750 for 2 1/2 years now, and paired it with a 450 watt juice box..
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I always liked the Corsair PSUs, I liked the HX-850 modular better, but I didn't want to shell out the extra cash back then. PC Power & Cooling used to be considered one of, if not the best PSUs.
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HX-850 http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817139011
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From the Specs I think I might go with this next. http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817207019
"OR" http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817207020
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But that is only if I don't feel stingy..LOL, that and If I run the cards I want...


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[Vulpesveritas]

Chiyeko Kuramochi, on 21 June 2012 - 03:25 PM, said:

That is a lot of Asrock boards!

Anyhow I am pleased with my Asus Sabertooth Z77 thermal armor to me is like whatever, but it does help to protect parts from me and the dust covers+ extra cooling is a ncie touch. O and clean looking is always nice in my opinion (O and the usb bios update thingy is handy)

Yep. that reminds me I should put in a $250 bracket in LGA 1155 and AM3+.

Lakevren, on 21 June 2012 - 03:46 PM, said:

AsRock is somewhat of a gamble in terms of reliability. It either works or doesn't. If it doesn't start up, RMA it. If it does start up, it's likely to work reliability for a while.

Either way, good value for its features, but not necessarily for its guaranteed quality. Not saying that Asrock has bad quality, especially since its quality has gone up since a few years ago.

Hence why I recommend it here, as this is price / performance, not price / 100% of success on first try. AsRock is one of the few companies that actually makes somewhat useful marketing features as well, which is nice. And their quality seems to be somewhere on the level of MSI. (at least in my opinion) They have good boards, and a few iffy boards. It mostly seems to depend on the model of board. It's helped since they now are actually their own company too.

Lakevren, on 21 June 2012 - 03:46 PM, said:

Gigabyte is another fairly well-valued motherboard manufacturer, but they too have their share of problems. I believe they have one of the worst UEFI as of yet.

Agreed. Though they generally last. Then again most motherboards do.

Lakevren, on 21 June 2012 - 03:46 PM, said:

Asus and MSI tend to be a bit more expensive for the features you get, but nothing that costs an arm or a leg unless you want everything. Most people don't need everything, since a lot of the higher-end boards (gigabyte and Asrock included) tend to be overclocking-related.

Yep, although Asus generally has more features and somewhat better quality than MSi in my experience. At the same time, for the price if you can get more features and better value overall on a competitor board.... then they kind of lose their appeal, at least for me.

Edited by Vulpesveritas, 21 June 2012 - 05:51 PM.

[Vulpesveritas]

Lakevren, on 21 June 2012 - 04:08 PM, said:

Now that I reread the list, the TX750 V2 should be tied with the XFX Core Edition Pro 750W, not to mention the Corsair TX750 V2 being cheaper. Source: http://www.jonnyguru...=Story&reid=230 and http://www.jonnyguru...=Story&reid=216

List prices my good sir, list prices. The TX750 v2 is in the $150 price bracket as the non sale price for it is $140, and the XFX core edition's normal price is in the $125 bracket at $120.

Lakevren, on 21 June 2012 - 04:08 PM, said:

Anyways, just offering info. Can't include every good power supply on the list. However, you can indeed make a list of brands to avoid, heh. That might be easier. *COUGH*Diablotek*COUGH*.

I wouldn't touch one with a... thirty and a half foot pole. lol. I'm not grinchy.

Lakevren, on 21 June 2012 - 04:08 PM, said:

Good thing I bought my AX850 for $170.

Yeah which is why I recommend keeping an eye on sales, often times you can catch great deals, like the $90 one on that NZXT 650w Hale82 right now.

Odins Fist, on 21 June 2012 - 04:25 PM, said:

OMG... Diablotek... Can you say "FIRE HAZARD"..???

No joke here.

Odins Fist, on 21 June 2012 - 04:25 PM, said:

BTW, I have been running the Corsair TX-750 for 2 1/2 years now, and paired it with a 450 watt juice box..

Is that literal or figurative?

Odins Fist, on 21 June 2012 - 04:25 PM, said:

I always liked the Corsair PSUs, I liked the HX-850 modular better, but I didn't want to shell out the extra cash back then. PC Power & Cooling used to be considered one of, if not the best PSUs.
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HX-850 http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817139011
.
From the Specs I think I might go with this next. http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817207019
"OR" http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817207020
.
But that is only if I don't feel stingy..LOL, that and If I run the cards I want...
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I would say go with the platinum for the efficiency, but that's me.

Edited by Vulpesveritas, 21 June 2012 - 05:39 PM.

[Odins Fist]

Yes "paired" you have to have the TX-750 (using one of it's molex) plugged into the 450 watt juice box for it to start at the same time the TX-750 powers the system when you hit the power switch on the Case.. The extra 450 watts is handy for all kinds of gadgets, you know like a disco ball and smoke machine with laser light show in the case..

[Odins Fist]

You need some more Asus boards in there LOL... I'm running two different 990FX mobos.
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http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813131736
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http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813131735
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Also, M.S.I. is kind of taking a nose dive in the last year or two, I watched a NF980-G65 fail a mild to heavy Overclock (CPU), or hold or even boot with RAM timings, with RAM at Spec, and above voltage with kits, (on the QVL list) compared to an ASUS M4N98TD EVO AM3 NVIDIA nForce 980a, which was a cheaper board, and supposedly had worse V droop.. Also recently saw a Phenom II 960t (nuke) an M.S.I. board when trying for a mild OC (not unlocked)... I have dropped them for building until I see some improvement, as I saw many reviews stating very similar, if not the same issues witnessed, but that's just my "anecdotal" evidence... LOLZ
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And wait a minute, where are the Biostar boards...?? Tee Hee

[Vulpesveritas]

Odins Fist, on 21 June 2012 - 06:15 PM, said:

You need some more Asus boards in there LOL... I'm running two different 990FX mobos.
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http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813131736
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http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813131735
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Also, M.S.I. is kind of taking a nose dive in the last year or two, I watched a NF980-G65 fail a mild to heavy Overclock (CPU), or hold or even boot with RAM timings, with RAM at Spec, and above voltage with kits, (on the QVL list) compared to an ASUS M4N98TD EVO AM3 NVIDIA nForce 980a, which was a cheaper board, and supposedly had worse V droop.. Also recently saw a Phenom II 960t (nuke) an M.S.I. board when trying for a mild OC (not unlocked)... I have dropped them for building until I see some improvement, as I saw many reviews stating very similar, if not the same issues witnessed, but that's just my "anecdotal" evidence... LOLZ
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And wait a minute, where are the Biostar boards...?? Tee Hee

lol, well, Rather Asrock is about the quality MSI used to be.


the crosshair wins the $250 bracket I have yet to make, and the Fatal1ty board has more features, although I do like the sabertooth.... it really comes down to personal choice between the Fatal1ty and Sabertooth....

And hey look one biostar board... because of the chipset at the price and all. lol

[Lakevren]

Vulpesveritas, on 21 June 2012 - 05:37 PM, said:

List prices my good sir, list prices. The TX750 v2 is in the $150 price bracket as the non sale price for it is $140, and the XFX core edition's normal price is in the $125 bracket at $120.

Not quite:
http://www.amazon.co...data/B004MYFODI
$92.
Newegg is $110.

VERY far from $150.
The price also has been very consistent, at least the $110 at newegg.

Edited by Lakevren, 21 June 2012 - 06:31 PM.

[Vulpesveritas]

Lakevren, on 21 June 2012 - 06:30 PM, said:

Not quite:
http://www.amazon.co...data/B004MYFODI
$92.
Newegg is $110.

VERY far from $150.

That's the sale price lol. The list price (non-sale price) is $140

[Kravenous]

Odins Fist, on 21 June 2012 - 06:15 PM, said:

You need some more Asus boards in there LOL... I'm running two different 990FX mobos.
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http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813131736
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http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813131735
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Also, M.S.I. is kind of taking a nose dive in the last year or two, I watched a NF980-G65 fail a mild to heavy Overclock (CPU), or hold or even boot with RAM timings, with RAM at Spec, and above voltage with kits, (on the QVL list) compared to an ASUS M4N98TD EVO AM3 NVIDIA nForce 980a, which was a cheaper board, and supposedly had worse V droop.. Also recently saw a Phenom II 960t (nuke) an M.S.I. board when trying for a mild OC (not unlocked)... I have dropped them for building until I see some improvement, as I saw many reviews stating very similar, if not the same issues witnessed, but that's just my "anecdotal" evidence... LOLZ
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And wait a minute, where are the Biostar boards...?? Tee Hee

I agree, the Sabertooth 990fx is an awesome and sexy motherboard. For a Mechwarrior rig it is hard to beat the olive drab, coyote tan, and black color scheme! If only it were easy to find color coordinated accessories.

[Odins Fist]

Kravenous, on 21 June 2012 - 06:41 PM, said:

I agree, the Sabertooth 990fx is an awesome and sexy motherboard. For a Mechwarrior rig it is hard to beat the olive drab, coyote tan, and black color scheme! If only it were easy to find color coordinated accessories.

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When I first bought the Sabertooth it honestly looked better than the picture, but I still thought "wow this is kind of ugly", until I got it into my full ATX case, and after you plug everything in, you don't see that beige at all... Now I think it looks really nice, and with all the lights in the case (blue), you really don't see the green scheme anymore, but when tinkering with it in the daylight, it kind of makes me think i'm working on a tank or jeep.. BUT, I like that board a lot, and it overclocks extremely well... I've had it a year now I think, and it is a treat to deal with... Setup was almost too easy, I almost got mad about that...LOL

[Lakevren]

Vulpesveritas, on 21 June 2012 - 06:31 PM, said:

That's the sale price lol. The list price (non-sale price) is $140

It hasn't been $140 for god knows how long.

And the price history indicates that it hasn't reached over $130 except that possibly single day or couple of days in January 2012
http://thetracktor.c...ail/B004MYFODI/

I should get the inferior XFX Core Edition 750W Pro over the Corsair TX750 by basing it on the MSRP, which never happens anyways? Nope, of course not. Maybe if my only choice was Best Buy or some god awful store.

Sale price? Not quite.

Maybe we should completely disregard your recommendation of the 7970 due to retail price then cause they start at $550 MSRP.

Edited by Lakevren, 21 June 2012 - 07:24 PM.

[Vulpesveritas]

Lakevren, on 21 June 2012 - 07:16 PM, said:

It hasn't been $140 for god knows how long.

And the price history indicates that it hasn't reached over $130 except that possibly single day or couple of days in January 2012
http://thetracktor.c...ail/B004MYFODI/

I should get the inferior XFX Core Edition 750W Pro over the Corsair TX750 by basing it on the MSRP, which never happens anyways? Nope, of course not. Maybe if my only choice was Best Buy or some god awful store.

Sale price? Not quite.

Maybe we should completely disregard your recommendation of the 7970 due to retail price then cause they start at $550 MSRP.

Actually the MSRP on the 7970 was dropped to $450 by AMD... just in case you didn't know. But that's besides the point here.

And as I said, I do recommend you watch for sale prices, however without a guarantee that a sale will stay the same from product to product, That's just the way things are. Sure you can go by this list and just pick and choose, however these are guides, they are meant to be something to show what to look for at the minimum at a price point more or less, rather than a solid "This is what you have to buy" at this price product list.

And yes, it is still a sale price, as otherwise a retailer can change the price, regardless of MSRP. As MSRP stands for Manufacturer Suggested retail price. It's not a mandate. lol

[Orion Pirate]

What about:

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817139033

Corsair Gaming Series GS500 500W for $80? It is the one I finally put in my wish list anyways...

But I drool for the Seasonic 460W Fanless, but I am not sure it will like an AMD Phenom 965 and the price is a bit more then I want at the moment... I really want this one...

[Vulpesveritas]

Orion Pirate, on 21 June 2012 - 07:51 PM, said:

What about:

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817139033

Corsair Gaming Series GS500 500W for $80? It is the one I finally put in my wish list anyways...

But I drool for the Seasonic 460W Fanless, but I am not sure it will like an AMD Phenom 965 and the price is a bit more then I want at the moment... I really want this one...

Well, for $5 less you have the XFX core 550w http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817207013
which is more power efficient, puts out more power, has a better internals OEM (seasonic), has more connectors for video cards, is rated for higher temperatures, and has a longer warranty.

[Orion Pirate]

Hmmmm... Ok.

What about the Seasonic Fanless 460W? Can I run a Phenom 965 and a PCS+ 7850 on it?

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817151099

[Vulpesveritas]

Orion Pirate, on 21 June 2012 - 08:25 PM, said:

Hmmmm... Ok.

What about the Seasonic Fanless 460W? Can I run a Phenom 965 and a PCS+ 7850 on it?

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817151099

You should be able to, although I wouldn't personally do it as you have nearly no overhead, but a better deal is this; http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817121094
If you're looking for quiet, it has a hybrid setting where the fan only turns on when it gets too hot, and then it kicks in. It's more power efficient, $20 cheaper, and has more than enough power for your build.
It's also amazingly efficient at low loads compared to a good number of other power supplies.

Edited by Vulpesveritas, 21 June 2012 - 08:38 PM.

[Orion Pirate]

Food for thought... Thank you very much!

P.S. Like the 460, it says that the 3.3v and the 5v are only 100w. The Phenom 965 is a 125w processor...

Am I thinking about that correctly, that I should get a PSU that matched or exceeds the processor power requirements?

Edited by Orion Pirate, 21 June 2012 - 08:38 PM.

[Vulpesveritas]

Orion Pirate, on 21 June 2012 - 08:35 PM, said:

Food for thought... Thank you very much!

P.S. Like the 460, it says that the 3.3v and the 5v are only 100w. The Phenom 965 is a 125w processor...

Am I thinking about that correctly, that I should get a PSU that matched or exceeds the processor power requirements?

No problem...
And the CPU runs off of the 12v rail

Edited by Vulpesveritas, 21 June 2012 - 08:44 PM.

[RenegadeMaster]

Wow, I didn't even know fanless PSUs existed for 400W+. It is too bad 500W+ for fanless is rare and arguably less reliable, as shown in this torture test. Seems like fanless PSU tech has quite a ways to go in terms of development.