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#981 Hakkukakt

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 09:00 PM

View PostStraker, on 12 October 2012 - 04:53 PM, said:

I'm planning on dumping some money into a good setup. I have a nice joysticl now, but really don't like the feel of having mech movement (legs) and torso twist on the same hand. I know I could go with pedals for leg control, but I play light mechs and I think it would probably get tiresome for long periods.

What I really want is a setup where I can control throttle and leg movement with one hand and the other be torso twist, with a regular joystick. Kind of hard to tell from the write-ups which throttles actually twist for x-y control as well. Any advice?



Hi

the thrustmaster warthog will be respond on your demand ... othether that's not a cheap joystick ... but i have mine and it respond to what i want ...

look here for the detail on what he can do ^^

http://mwomercs.com/...er%20%20warthog

#982 Bloodshed Romance

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 10:45 PM

I went AM3+ in the end because FM2 wasn't out... i'm happy with my choice.. and 7970 is amazing

devil 13 is 7990... 2 7970s!!!
I can't imagine that in a system....

but I want it!

Edited by Bloodshed Romance, 12 October 2012 - 10:45 PM.


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Posted 13 October 2012 - 01:21 AM

View PostBloodshed Romance, on 12 October 2012 - 10:45 PM, said:

I went AM3+ in the end because FM2 wasn't out... i'm happy with my choice.. and 7970 is amazing

devil 13 is 7990... 2 7970s!!!
I can't imagine that in a system....

but I want it!


Fair enough on the AM3+. Although within minutes of posting I realized my post was me talking myself out of AM3+ and into FM2, subconsciously and/or consciously. So I figure I'll go that way since my heart seems to be steering in that direction.

As for the Devil 13... I believe overkill is a myth - no such thing, period. But if there were such a thing, the Devil 13 definately would be first on my list of qualifiers for overkill. It really is, though. Still, I want a triple monitor setup as soon as I can make it happen and one Big D 13 would probably do the job. I shudder to think I might need two of them to do it...

...

Not sure why I had that fit of evil villianous cackling just now. I'm all better, I think...

Anyways, I wanted to ask something else. So, dual core CPU. Bad GPU. What's my best road out of this? I've been mulling over how much a $100 GPU would get pulled down by a two core CPU and I'm finding myself unsure if this is really a good idea.

So... should I go ahead with plan A - throw, say, a Sapphire VaporX Radeon HD 7770 Ghz Ed* in this and then set about upgrading CPU / MB / GPU / RAM asap? Or plan B... which I don't have a plan B. So what's a good plan B if plan A sucks too much?

*Picked this out with the aid of your GPU Guide, thanks Vulpes!

EDIT Well I'm puzzled. The GTX 260 in the new rig doesn't work in the new rig. But it works in the old one just fine? Weird. Anyways for now I'm running the old 8600 GT in the new rig, like, right now. Will be amusing to see if a rig just barely short of min specs will run at low resolution / minimum settings. Hence why I plumped for the Vet Package. At the very least I'll get to poke the launch screen. Heh.

Edited by Sir Roland MXIII, 13 October 2012 - 08:55 PM.


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Posted 14 October 2012 - 06:52 AM

Game runs (almost) perfectly fine on my ancient rig:

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Settings level: (all low)
CPU: Core2Duo E8200 @3.21 GHz
GPU: GeForce GTS 250
RAM Type/brand/amount: PC2-6400 / Corsair / 2x2 GB (400x8 / SPD timings)
Operating System: Win7 32bit

See MWO Benchmarking Project for more details.


pls everybody stop spilling BS about so called "recommended" specs. Computer hardware is expensive and if you haven´t got to upgrade you really should´nt except if you have a gold-dookie-donkey living in your basement.

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 09:12 PM

What? No 690? xD

#986 Mycrus

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 08:25 AM

View PostFiach, on 11 June 2012 - 09:29 PM, said:

I'm glad ThunderHorse raised the point about the Logitech G940 registering as three seperate devices in windows but I would like to give a further warning about that. I bought a G940 three months ago, I'd been considering it for a while, MWO pushed me over the edge. I'm a big fan of Logitech and own a G19 keyboard, G500 mouse, G930 headset and many other devices in their line but I always check reviews of high priced peripherals before I buy. I was aware of every potential problem with the G940 before I purchased it but not the registering as three devices. None of the major reviewers thought to mention it ;) If I had known I would have thought twice about buying. The reason for this is that my G940 has been sitting gathering dust for three months. It is unusable as a HOTAS setup in almost every game I've tried it with. Some people will tell you you'll only have trouble with old games as they can't use multiple input devices at the same time. This is by and large not true, most modern games can't either as it's not worth the developers time to code advanced controller support. It's not the hayday of the 90's sim era anymore when most gamers owned joysticks. Logitechs reasoning for not allowing the device to register as a single peripheral is that windows has issues when too many inputs exist on one device. This was a huge mistake. To prevent potential, not assured, potential problems with some games they decided to insure it was unusable with most games as a HOTAS :) Joy to Key isn't really an option either if you are running Windows7 64-bit as it isn't driver signed so it can't be installed. Well it can by disabling driver signing but that can cause security issues and I'm not willing to do it. Moreover those who have report limited success with mapping the G940. Logitech's support forum for the G940 is awash with complaints about this issue and requests for a firmware update that'll allow single device registering. Some of these posts date back to 2009 and with no word from Logitech I'd assume they either won't or can't resolve this issue. I have heard that one of the MWO devs uses a G940 so I'd assume multi input will be coded into the game and I'll be looking forward to finally getting to use it. I'm not trying to put anybody off the G940 or Logitech in general, I just want to bring attention to the fact that it's a very expensive investment for a device that has limited support as a gaming peripheral.


what about using the logitech profiler to setup up the controls rather than expect in-game support?

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 06:55 PM

One would wounder why the CM HAF 912 didn't make it in to the mid tower list. At $60 the HAF 912 is a killer deal. :)

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 07:32 PM

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811108190

This is the case I have, and I say I say I say it is amazing. Quiet, HUGE! and super cool interior. Cable management is a bit of a beyotch, but you can easily put a RAID config in here with options for hot swapping drives (does anyone do that anymore?)

#989 Vulpesveritas

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 07:36 PM

View PostDarkBazerker, on 16 October 2012 - 06:55 PM, said:

One would wounder why the CM HAF 912 didn't make it in to the mid tower list. At $60 the HAF 912 is a killer deal. :)

Because A: that $60 is a sale price. At the normal price, $5 more gets you the NZXT Tempest 410, which is a much better case overall.
B: at a $60 sale price you have a Zalman Z9 for considerably less ($15 before MIR, $25 after) and for about the same cooling capacity, with better cable management; http://www.newegg.co...=Computer-Cases
C: at a $60 sale price, for $5 more, you have the Zalman Z11, which cools better than the HAF, but comes with far better cable management, more room, and dust filters on the intakes. http://www.newegg.co...=Computer-Cases
D: For a dollar more than the Zalman Z11, you have the cougar Challenger, with even better cooling and space still, though lacking the dust filters; http://www.newegg.co...=Computer-Cases

#990 Will White

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 09:37 PM

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That ^^ is my system now. This was never a gaming pc. (ignore the OS. Its what i was booted into at the time. Its faster then vista for general tasks and most of the games that it runs, run either native or in wine) I know it will not be able to play MWO. This was never a gaming pc. I am going to be building a computer later this year and I have about 200$ to spend on the computer now, the amount I am planning on allotting to a video card. Would it be able to play MWO even with an upgraded video card at 720p (1280x1024).

Edited by Will White, 16 October 2012 - 09:38 PM.


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Posted 16 October 2012 - 09:49 PM

there is also this one: http://www.systemrequirementslab.com

I think it is honestly the best website out there to tell you if you can run a game or not.

Edit: it does not currently have any of the mechwarrior franchise on it. i posted this as generic help for most games.

Edited by RogueGhost, 16 October 2012 - 09:52 PM.


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Posted 17 October 2012 - 01:53 AM

people who say that the logitech extreme 3d pro works great must have gotten a different stick than me. :/ I've had nothing but issues with trying to set it up, along with a software that causes no ends of issues with my system.

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 08:29 PM

i have the extreme 3d pro... it works but i don't get the same accuracy as using a gaming mouse...

btw, has anybody used the logitech g940 in game? i would like to get an honest sense of the accuracy of play when using it.

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 08:57 AM

Sorry, the Game-o-Meter estimates that the overall performance of your system is under the publisher’s minimum requirements.
Even though your computer has all the required hardware features the performance is estimated to be poor, even at the lowest possible visual settings.



Wut

Edited by Princegonzo, 18 October 2012 - 08:58 AM.


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Posted 18 October 2012 - 09:12 AM

View PostWill White, on 16 October 2012 - 09:37 PM, said:

Posted Image
That ^^ is my system now. This was never a gaming pc. (ignore the OS. Its what i was booted into at the time. Its faster then vista for general tasks and most of the games that it runs, run either native or in wine) I know it will not be able to play MWO. This was never a gaming pc. I am going to be building a computer later this year and I have about 200$ to spend on the computer now, the amount I am planning on allotting to a video card. Would it be able to play MWO even with an upgraded video card at 720p (1280x1024).


If I understand your question, then yes, that computer there would be able to play MWO with a video card upgrade, though you might have to upgrade the PSU as well. You could get a Corsair CX430 if you needed another PSU, and then maybe a Radeon HD 7770 or 6850. Either would work fine.

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 09:14 AM

I hate to throw another question out, but Windows8 comes out the 26th, has the game been tested for 8 yet?

Hawkswift

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 05:51 PM

View PostCatamount, on 18 October 2012 - 09:12 AM, said:

If I understand your question, then yes, that computer there would be able to play MWO with a video card upgrade, though you might have to upgrade the PSU as well. You could get a Corsair CX430 if you needed another PSU, and then maybe a Radeon HD 7770 or 6850. Either would work fine.

Thanks that is what I was hoping to hear. Sorry for the slightly confusing question.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 02:03 PM

View PostDr Killinger, on 27 June 2012 - 11:39 AM, said:


I hope you read this before you do: I bought a X52 Pro, and it was the only PC component I have ever bought that could not be used at all due to it's poor quality. The deadzone in the center is HUGE. Sure, you can mod it, but I spent a lot on it, I would at least expect it to work better than my old Sidewinder without me taking a screwdriver to it. Also, the trigger would stick on. I had to open it and trim flash off the plastic to get the trigger to work- this shows extremely low production standards and no quality control. The MFD would constantly sprout utter nonsense, and it would constantly "restart" or something, and whatever I was doing beforehand would stay there indefinitely (ie, if I was turning left, it would stay stuck like that afterwards).

Maybe I was unlucky, but if that piece of garbage could have passed their quality control, then I don't think that they are to be trusted with my, or anyone else's, money.


I've noticed there is a LOT of difference between a reg X52 and a X52 Pro. Have heard nothing but bad things about the pro, but i've been using a reg one for years with little trouble.

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 06:11 PM

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 07:03 PM

View PostHawkswift, on 18 October 2012 - 09:14 AM, said:

I hate to throw another question out, but Windows8 comes out the 26th, has the game been tested for 8 yet?

Hawkswift

I hope so. I got it early through my colleges "Dreamspark" program with Microsoft. But anyways, according to that little system comparison tool, no, I can't run it because I require at least XP (If windows 8 were slower and more buggy then previous releases that might actually be a funny joke). But hardware wise, yeah my laptop is just under the recommended.





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