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[4b4dd0n]

StickEGreen, on 14 December 2012 - 02:54 PM, said:

Tell me about these mythical assault ballistics platforms. After the Stalker drops, the Atlas will still be the only assault that can mount ballistics, and only ever 2, which are in the same location preventing doubling up of anything bigger than a UAC5 or LBX.

Exactly this is why we need the Annihilator and no stupid assault with jj...

[TruePoindexter]

4b4dd0n, on 14 December 2012 - 04:44 PM, said:

Exactly this is why we need the Annihilator and no stupid assault with jj...

Yes... give me 4 Gauss.... Delicious.

EDIT: Although with MWO's modifications to engine/heat sink requirements this may not be possible.

Edited by TruePoindexter, 14 December 2012 - 04:54 PM.

[Elkarlo]

William Conrad, on 14 December 2012 - 11:53 AM, said:

Another reason why I like the highlander, jump jets, and a bit lighter than the Atlas.. hopefully more manoeuvrable than the Atlas. Personally I dislike piloting assault mechs because if you have a light mech on your rear end, unless you have rear firing weapons like some Assault mechs.. a light mech can tear you to peices.. seen it too many times in a team match.

*cough* The Highlander got a LRM 20 and 1 SRM 6that will be 2 Missle slots at least more likely 3*cough*

And for your Fear that a STK will be helpless to your Dual AC/20... he will point you with his a while and then Sunburn you with his 5 Medium Lasers, which have the same power as one AC/20. ( one slot will be Tag so that he can shot you at 450+ meters)

So the Stalker was announced a while before, it is a real Mean fighting Machine and PGi opted against the Zeus which would have been a Choice as it has a different layout compared to the Awesome. But it only got 2 Variants..
The Highlander(90) is a resurrected Mech and just comming Back in the Timeline but got Plenty Variants, and because it is a resurrected Modell they Sheduled him later....
Let see the other Options:

Zeus(80) Few Variants Yet another 80 Tons Mech
We have the Battlemaster (85)... no Balistics at all.
Cyclop(90).. no Variants..
Charger(80)... would be intresting but yet another 80 ton Mech...
Victor(80) few variants and yet another 80 Tons...
Crocket/katana(85) Intresting Option
Longbow(85) The Missleboat
Stalker(85) Jack of all Trades Support Role to have Push
Banshee(95) Intresting Mech Undergunned several Version most intrsting Mech is the BNC-3s BNC-5s
Nightstar(95) to few Variants
Mauler(90) Draconis Mech just hitting the Shelfes Having all Weapons Categories.. nice Options
Annihilator(100) Wolfs Dragoons Exclusiv Mech !
Devastator(100) Yet another 100 Tons assault mech.


That would be the List of Useable Assault Mechs. The Highlander is already a hard push...
but just returning in Production.. a Mauler would have been better...

The Most common Assaults are 80 Tons Mechs... and Energyloaded with via Ballistics... Charger is an exception and his Derivate the Hatamoto-Shi.

On the other Hand... do we need MORE Ballastic Boats? because of the Network load we already have it would be questionable to Push more Mechs which have problems thanks the Netcode Problems.....

And when you are stomped by a Stalker in your slow dual AC Cat... then maybe you rethink twice if it was a wise idea to reduce the Engine for putting in the Dual 20 Ac... or if a Cataphract would have been better...

The Stalker will be a Beast on the Battlefield... having the ability for choosing it Combat Range in its Primary Weapon and having the Weapon System as Backup...

And of course a 6x M-laser 4x SRM6 Ultrahot may be comming... That will make Look the A1 6x SRM6 and the 2x Ac/20 like nice Kitty's.

So yes we need another Highversality Assault Mech, which will be using two Weapon Systems thanks to lot of Hardpoints !

[LaserAngel]

All I want is Banshee, for the shades.

[Ozric]

The Mauler is a strong option I agree. Versatile, iconic, able to go toe to toe with an Atlas. I don't really like it, but it does make sense. I want a Cyclops. For no good reason.


Edit: Actually, there is a reason. I like having a death ray on my head.

Edited by Ozric, 14 December 2012 - 05:27 PM.

[p00k]

stalker is useless. it doesn't add anything besides new hitboxes to shoot and a reshuffling of hardpoints. it doesn't fulfill some unfilled role. people will end up putting the same energy weapons in the energy hardpoints and missile weapons into the missile hardpoints that they do now.

the highlander and trebuchet depending on the variant, add jumpjet capability to a class of mechs that otherwise doesn't have them. i'd much rather either of those, than a skinny symmetrical awesome

[Locan Ravok]

The only thing that will make me look at the Stalker in the current state of the game is if it can mount ECM.

[William Warriors]

Elkarlo, on 14 December 2012 - 05:00 PM, said:

*cough* The Highlander got a LRM 20 and 1 SRM 6that will be 2 Missle slots at least more likely 3*cough*

And for your Fear that a STK will be helpless to your Dual AC/20... he will point you with his a while and then Sunburn you with his 5 Medium Lasers, which have the same power as one AC/20. ( one slot will be Tag so that he can shot you at 450+ meters)

So the Stalker was announced a while before, it is a real Mean fighting Machine and PGi opted against the Zeus which would have been a Choice as it has a different layout compared to the Awesome. But it only got 2 Variants..
The Highlander(90) is a resurrected Mech and just comming Back in the Timeline but got Plenty Variants, and because it is a resurrected Modell they Sheduled him later....
Let see the other Options:

Zeus(80) Few Variants Yet another 80 Tons Mech
We have the Battlemaster (85)... no Balistics at all.
Cyclop(90).. no Variants..
Charger(80)... would be intresting but yet another 80 ton Mech...
Victor(80) few variants and yet another 80 Tons...
Crocket/katana(85) Intresting Option
Longbow(85) The Missleboat
Stalker(85) Jack of all Trades Support Role to have Push
Banshee(95) Intresting Mech Undergunned several Version most intrsting Mech is the BNC-3s BNC-5s
Nightstar(95) to few Variants
Mauler(90) Draconis Mech just hitting the Shelfes Having all Weapons Categories.. nice Options
Annihilator(100) Wolfs Dragoons Exclusiv Mech !
Devastator(100) Yet another 100 Tons assault mech.


That would be the List of Useable Assault Mechs. The Highlander is already a hard push...
but just returning in Production.. a Mauler would have been better...

The Most common Assaults are 80 Tons Mechs... and Energyloaded with via Ballistics... Charger is an exception and his Derivate the Hatamoto-Shi.

On the other Hand... do we need MORE Ballastic Boats? because of the Network load we already have it would be questionable to Push more Mechs which have problems thanks the Netcode Problems.....

And when you are stomped by a Stalker in your slow dual AC Cat... then maybe you rethink twice if it was a wise idea to reduce the Engine for putting in the Dual 20 Ac... or if a Cataphract would have been better...

The Stalker will be a Beast on the Battlefield... having the ability for choosing it Combat Range in its Primary Weapon and having the Weapon System as Backup...

And of course a 6x M-laser 4x SRM6 Ultrahot may be comming... That will make Look the A1 6x SRM6 and the 2x Ac/20 like nice Kitty's.

So yes we need another Highversality Assault Mech, which will be using two Weapon Systems thanks to lot of Hardpoints !

Well I also have 4 mediums lasers with my 2AC 20s. I didn't mention I have other weapons too.. also I do 59km/h, a Stalker will be slower unless it is mounted with a near 300 rating fusion engine. Though the sacrifice is two ton of ammos for my dual AC20s.. my mediums are always my back up weapons.

I am waiting for the clan AC ultra20s to come out; so I can mounted it on my current Gauss cat build. my current Gauss cat can do 74km/h, with 2 mediums and 2 smalls lasers, configurable to 4 mediums.. that is NOT slow. That could have been an AC20 boat if the damn ac20s had not taken up so much room or can share slot space between arm and torso.

I have killed Atlases and Awesomes single handedly, so a Stalker is just another assault mech.

To also amend the list.. there are also other assault mechs which are not included but can be included
in the 3049 eras.

Those are

Emperor-Good weapon mix.
Mackie (Seriously)
Thug -PPC boat
Striker -another PPC boat
Pillager -Gauss boat
King Crab. -AC20s boat
Imp - Not sure what to fit this one.
Goliath-4 legged useless assaultmech
Ymir-Lyran first gen assault mech, has mix weapons.
Xanthos-similar to the Goliath but again has respectable weapon mix.
Spartan-One of the early assault mechs has good weapon mix.
Rampage-amaris assault mech that has good weapon mix.

Edited by William Conrad, 14 December 2012 - 06:46 PM.

[William Warriors]

4b4dd0n, on 14 December 2012 - 04:44 PM, said:

Exactly this is why we need the Annihilator and no stupid assault with jj...

The Pillager variant I mention is the dream built for me. Sames as the Cat we have now.. but with the armor profile of at Atlas.

Seriously, I will stick with heavy mechs because assault mech is light mech meat.. at least a heavy stand some chance against a light.

[Vanguard319]

William Conrad, on 14 December 2012 - 04:08 AM, said:

December is around and I was giddy up for the Highlander.. something exciting and then BAM! A Stalker... STALKER!

We already got the Catapult making its name as a missle boat, and then the Trenchbucket soon.. and then this???

We got Medium, heavy and now Assault Missle Boat? And with ECM running rampant in team games.. it is crazy to get this mech.

I am sorely..well.. I was hoping for a Highlander.. there is already too many missle boat out there to ruin a fun team match.

At least an Assault mech which can mount two balistic points in both Torso and one in the arms.

A Davastator or Mauler would be fun, even an Annihilator or new Atlas variant.. which meet the criteria above.

And please give us what we want... otherwise there will be moaning about the fun being less balance and etc.

Stalker.. pity it is not a Banshee.. <sigh>

Heathen! how dare you snub your nose to Ceiling mech!

[Foxwalker]

Giant Cigar shaped mech.... hmmm.... Maby I can jumpjet onto it with my Fract and ride it like a pony!

[William Warriors]

Vanguard319, on 14 December 2012 - 06:31 PM, said:

Heathen! how dare you snub your nose to Ceiling mech!

Should had replace the Stalker with Mackie , that way it satisfy us all and it has a lot of varients, and not to mention it looks like R2D2 or the bigger version of Urbanmech.

[197mmCannon]

Who wants to bet that either the Ct or head hitbox will be too big at release will need to be hotfixed.

[4b4dd0n]

Elkarlo, on 14 December 2012 - 05:00 PM, said:

Zeus(80) Few Variants Yet another 80 Tons Mech
We have the Battlemaster (85)... no Balistics at all.
Cyclop(90).. no Variants..
Charger(80)... would be intresting but yet another 80 ton Mech...
Victor(80) few variants and yet another 80 Tons...
Crocket/katana(85) Intresting Option
Longbow(85) The Missleboat
Stalker(85) Jack of all Trades Support Role to have Push
Banshee(95) Intresting Mech Undergunned several Version most intrsting Mech is the BNC-3s BNC-5s
Nightstar(95) to few Variants
Mauler(90) Draconis Mech just hitting the Shelfes Having all Weapons Categories.. nice Options
Annihilator(100) Wolfs Dragoons Exclusiv Mech !
Devastator(100) Yet another 100 Tons assault mech.


That would be the List of Useable Assault Mechs. The Highlander is already a hard push...
but just returning in Production.. a Mauler would have been better...

The Most common Assaults are 80 Tons Mechs... and Energyloaded with via Ballistics... Charger is an exception and his Derivate the Hatamoto-Shi.

On the other Hand... do we need MORE Ballastic Boats? because of the Network load we already have it would be questionable to Push more Mechs which have problems thanks the Netcode Problems.....

I think we need more ballistic boats. With the ecm introduction lock on weapons are near useless. So you can switch to srms but with this you have to go in melee range. The atlas can carry only one hard hitting ballistic so the highlander would be the same. Stalker cant carry any ballistic weapon same to the awesome.

Without the cataphract we would have only the k2 to mount 2 hard hitting ballistic weapon.
So for me the ballistic boats are quite underrepensative. The point is the assault class is the only class that have the tonnage and space to mount more then 2 big guns. In other classes is quite useless see the dragon or hunchie.

With the Annihilator we would have a mech wich can close the whole. And i think its the better 100t mech then the atlas. Also it can stand against the new clan mechs.

[Steel Claws]

Do any of you remember the drop in MW2 where you were given a Stalker to drive and you had to kill multiple mechs all by yourself? Almost as fun as the underwater mission with the glad.

[Adeptus Odren]

Thorn Hallis, on 14 December 2012 - 10:45 AM, said:

No, you wont. Period.

WHy not? It would be cool to see an Omega in this game some time in the next couple of years.

[Bagheera]

Oh ... forget it.

Edited by Bagheera, 15 December 2012 - 09:37 AM.

[Joseph Mallan]

William Conrad, on 14 December 2012 - 10:17 AM, said:

no just any mechs, they got heaps and heaps in the Technical readout, we want mechs that stands out, like the Thunderhawk. 3x Gauss in the Primary Variant, Hollander, Men Shen (Stealth armor Omnis with MASC ), Mech with unique abillities, like Ti Ts'ang with tripple strength Myomer, some can be cheap, and etc.



I will have an Omega thanks, 155 tons, 3x gauss and 2 x LBX 10s

LOL I'll see your Omega and raise you a 200T Orca! Also FYI, I was playing the Ultra Heavy mechs before they were introduced to MW:DA. I know the man who gave us those rules and the BYO battle Armor rules... before he became a writer!

[nom de guerre]

William Conrad, on 14 December 2012 - 06:29 PM, said:

Seriously, I will stick with heavy mechs because assault mech is light mech meat.. at least a heavy stand some chance against a light.

that all depends on how skilled that assault driver is.

[Irreverence]

Mauler would have been a better option. The whole policy of three variants is odd considering the Ilya Muromets variant is made up.