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[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Kaijin, on 14 December 2012 - 12:53 PM, said:

Your 34kph gausscat would have been Jenner food as well if MWO carried over the minimum range for GR from TT like they did for the PPC.

That 3F could drop the engine to an XL 170 and throw on 4 SL, but does anyone really think that would help any? Boating as many LRM 20s as can be stuffed on a mech is bad building. Period.

except they didnt and I got to back in hate for a good long time lol

[Fate 6]

Kaijin, on 14 December 2012 - 12:53 PM, said:

Your 34kph gausscat would have been Jenner food as well if MWO carried over the minimum range for GR from TT like they did for the PPC.

That 3F could drop the engine to an XL 170 and throw on 4 SL, but does anyone really think that would help any? Boating as many LRM 20s as can be stuffed on a mech is bad building. Period.

If you can boat 4 or more LRM20s on a mech, 1 alpha will kill half the mechs the enemy is deploying. It isn't particularly effective at close range, but that is why you stay close to teammates for support.

[Fate 6]

Kaijin, on 14 December 2012 - 12:46 PM, said:

Seems a Stalker 3F could mount 4 LRM20s, 3 tons of ammo for each launcher, stock armor (432), endo-steel, 10 DHS (2 outside the engine) and a 215XL for a blazing speed of 41kph. Jenner food, basically.

If one mounts 4 LRM15s instead, then we can have 3 tons of ammo for each launcher, 5 ML, AMS+2 tons ammo, max armor (526). endo-steel, 12 DHS (all in the engine) and a 300XL for a speed of 57.2kph. Not too shabby, if LRMs are ever relevant again.

4 SRM6s (or 4 SSRM2s if you're feeling ballsy), 4 LL, and 2 ML. Let the death ensue.

[paladin yst]

Never send a stalker to do an atlas job.

[Ricama]

It's not 'another' missile boat, it's a bigger missile boat! Of course we need a bigger missile boat, you know for when LRMs are viable again. Until then, 30 SRMs backed up by medium lasers are going to be fun.

[TheFuzzyBunny]

I am going to Stalk, and I'm going to love it. I might even build a brawler build. Most likely I will build a missile boat and a all a rounder. If I want to brawl I'll roll in one of my Atlas. If I want run around like a mad rabbit I'll run my 9M Awesome. The Stalker will fill just another type of assault mech roll for me, and I look forward to it.

[One Medic Army]

I might even leave an LRM 15-20 launcher on mine. It's worthwhile for shooting into the light-mech dogfight if the ECMs are being countered.

[Thanatos676]

As others have said, the time to complain would of been months ago. I for one am looking forward to this mech, not as a LRM boat, but as a short range death dealer.

[Red squirrel]

My main concern about the Stalker:

Hardpoint wise just a 5 ton heavier awesome.
Maybe the hitboxes are better to not get too many head shots.
But do we need another missle/energy boat light assault mech?

[SpiralRazor]

William Conrad, on 14 December 2012 - 11:34 AM, said:

It does says on the title of this discussion "Stalker: do we need another missle boat?", you must be either wearing sunglasses at night when you post this, you enjoy firing LRMS at unseen targets in the game wearing a blindfold. The Stalker was announed months ago, but it is coming out now. This is a discussion for here and now.

"And if you think missiles "boats"*(canon) are ruining team matches, you must be the absolute worst player in MWO."

I say here and right now, the direction of this post is about too many missle boats in a match can bias the flavor and the fun experience in a team game. I did not say there shouldn't be any missle boat in a game.

How would you know what kind of player I am in MWO? Perhaps next time if we meet in a match we can find out the facts?


"Doesn't ECM affect SRM6s as well? Unless you aim it manually? I hope the MRMs comes out one day, then I will get missle boats, or Thunderbolts..

Quoted for proof that you have no idea what youre talking about."

I did say "unless you aim it manually", without Artemis IV guidance system.. should have been clearer there.
but then... he never did ask before jumping the gun.

I know youre bad from the lack of knowledge you demonstrate from your posts.

Yes, i know the Stalker is coming out now..it was on the schedule from months ..and months ago. Theyve mostly stuck to that order. The Highlander is still a WAYS off.

The Awesome was mostly an Energy platform

The Cataphract was mostly Ballistics.

The Stalker is mostly Missiles....(although im sure it will be converted to energy/srms right now)

I dont even know if that was intentional, but it makes sense to me.


LRM primary config mechs controlling 8 man play right now??? LOLOL!!! Okay man, pass me what youre smoking. We LOVE when the other team brings there mostly useless missile configs out to play. The only, and I mean only time I see LRMS competitively is on the D-DC, who can close to the 300-400 range because they can take the punishment of engaging so close. But then the DDC/Raven drop is the ultimate meta right now, so its no surprise. 8 ECMS means they can use all there LRMS and Streaks, and you get to use very few to none of yours... And you know what?? Those competitive DDCs are mounting Streaks as well to BLOW up your little ECM scouts just that much faster and make damn sure they maintain there ECM advantage.

Yawn.....

The only thing Artemis does to SRMS is tighten the grouping of the missiles up..they are still and only, dumb fire,. Artemis actually makes them WORSE vs lights, and better against slow targets.

/thread.

Edited by SpiralRazor, 14 December 2012 - 02:18 PM.

[M4NTiC0R3X]

There is a list of the 'mechs... Battlemech 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and so on. They may switch it up here and there throw a suprise Hero at us...

Don't be hating.

[Lagfest]

No matter what new stuff they give us,,, you guys still find something to ***** about

GFG this forum is as bad as the WOW one >



Also?
You just wait till the next 2 Hero mechs. Dragons me thinks >.>

Edited by Lagfest, 14 December 2012 - 02:27 PM.

[Timelordwho]

William Conrad, on 14 December 2012 - 04:32 AM, said:

Yay.. more missle boat in the game.. looks like I will get one too and mount 4 LRM 20s on it.. and join the other missle boats.. then let see how fun team matchs going to be in the future.

80 LRM tubes
8 Tons of LRM ammo
6 Med Las




174 Dmg Alpha strike.

[Kaijin]

Timelordwho, on 14 December 2012 - 02:31 PM, said:

80 LRM tubes
8 Tons of LRM ammo
6 Med Las




174 Dmg Alpha strike.

18 salvos only
10 HS only
Stock Armor
Gotta drop the engine to 195 and use endo steel, or drop it to 195 and make the engine XL (speed 37.2kph).
You'd shut down on the first alpha.
Silly build.

Edited by Kaijin, 14 December 2012 - 02:47 PM.

[Tesunie]

Personally, the Stalker is a favorite mech of mine. I've always liked it's odd shape. When I saw that the Stalker was on the game when I was looking into this about a couple weeks ago, I was going crazy. Then I saw "to be released soon" I was crushed. Now that it's coming on so soon, I'm practically foaming at the mouth waiting.

Why would I want this mech? Because. I like it. I don't know if I'll customize it yet even. It's just always been a favorite of mine.

On the part of why this mech over other mechs, it can missile or laser boat, but it's best at mixing each of them up. Use lasers to punch through armor, and missiles (SRMs) to cause shotgun damage as well as try to cause more cristical hits once the armors been melted off. I plan on using it in tandom with my friend who runs a Raven (without ECM). He covers my back, I basically obliterate anything that stands on front of me that he lures in. I'm hoping I'll give even an Atlas something to worry about, but I feel from what I can read that I'll be a bigger threat to anything else but another assault. Which is fine. If I can get ECM as well, I'll be happy, but I don't need it.

[StickEGreen]

Lanessar, on 14 December 2012 - 04:40 AM, said:

Not sure how someone can call the STK another missile boat. It's a versatile platform which can mount up to 6 energy weapons, and up to 6 missile weapons. Variants change this from 4/6 to 6/4, but the bottom line is, you can make pretty much anything out of it save for a ballistics platform (which already exists in a number of assaults, heavies, and even a couple of lights).

So, do we really need another ballistics boat?

Tell me about these mythical assault ballistics platforms. After the Stalker drops, the Atlas will still be the only assault that can mount ballistics, and only ever 2, which are in the same location preventing doubling up of anything bigger than a UAC5 or LBX.

[LaserAngel]

Red squirrel, on 14 December 2012 - 02:04 PM, said:

My main concern about the Stalker:

Hardpoint wise just a 5 ton heavier awesome.
Maybe the hitboxes are better to not get too many head shots.
But do we need another missle/energy boat light assault mech?

It's a rather leggy mech too. Not that legging one close up or in general is a great idea but it's slow and half of the mech is nothing but leg. That or the CT is going to stick out even worst than the Awesome. We'll know more on Tuesday.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Timelordwho, on 14 December 2012 - 02:31 PM, said:

80 LRM tubes
8 Tons of LRM ammo
6 Med Las




174 Dmg Alpha strike.

ecm negates you
gl

[Smeghead87]

I'm more worried about how my SRM6's you can pack into this thing than LRMs. 'Oh look a stalker has come round the corner. Hey wheres my mech gone?'

[William Warriors]

Kaijin, on 14 December 2012 - 02:45 PM, said:

18 salvos only
10 HS only
Stock Armor
Gotta drop the engine to 195 and use endo steel, or drop it to 195 and make the engine XL (speed 37.2kph).
You'd shut down on the first alpha.
Silly build.

You forgot that when Clan LRM 20s come out next year.. 5 tons a peice... and I have found in a battlefeild enviroment... experience shows it is not endurance but who does the most damage and let it out at one go.. make the difference in winning.