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[S3dition]

Captain Midnight, on 15 December 2012 - 07:03 AM, said:

Have you played a competitive 8? Ever? No one who has ever played a competitive 8 would say an awesome is "better" than anything, except maybe a hunchback? Even people who wish 8s were different will say "Awesomes ought to be viable, it's stupid that 8 mans are just raven 3Ls and atlas DDCs that's boring". They won't actually say an awesome IS viable, because it isn't.

I think the current meta is boring too, and I'm actually railing against it currently, but it is what it is and you reveal your ignorance by claiming it is not what it is.

Oddly enough, everyone in BF2 concluded that aircraft ruled the game without question. Yet my best friend and I would spike the enemy aircraft with c4 and detonate it a few seconds after they took off. After a few rounds of this, the enemy team would drop everything and come after us (and we would be waiting to kill most of them). Subsequently, we won the match.

The lesson here is that people take path of least resistance and refuse to experiment once they have found "their chosen." I don't subscribe to this principle and find that tagging a raven with 6x SRM6 is rather amusing. Oh, at atlas are sooo easy to hit

[Captain Midnight]

Khobai, on 15 December 2012 - 07:08 AM, said:

Uh what? Awesome 8R with x4 SRM6s, x2 Large Lasers, and x1 Medium Laser = 83 damage. Its only 7 less damage than an SRM cat. But the lasers can pinpoint specific locations so its actually better.

Everything you say is completely wrong. You're not even a good troll. A good troll at least gets some people to agree with him. But everyone just thinks you're wrong about everything...

Prove it 8v8 and bring that awesome, because you're basically telling me you know better than I do, but you don't and you're wrong... Neither of us will back down, but because I'm right I don't have a problem proving it... Let's see if you do, or if you're just a pugstomping all-star.

S3dition, on 15 December 2012 - 07:10 AM, said:

Oddly enough, everyone in BF2 concluded that aircraft ruled the game without question. Yet my best friend and I would spike the enemy aircraft with c4 and detonate it a few seconds after they took off. After a few rounds of this, the enemy team would drop everything and come after us (and we would be waiting to kill most of them). Subsequently, we won the match.

The lesson here is that people take path of least resistance and refuse to experiment once they have found "their chosen." I don't subscribe to this principle and find that tagging a raven with 6x SRM6 is rather amusing. Oh, at atlas are sooo easy to hit

The lesson here is that you and a friend have used cheese strategies since 1942 and never learned how to actually win an aircraft dogfight. Never learned how to counter a 6pool, only how to execute a 6pool. You are a noob and you have cheesed every game you could until they either nerfed the cheese (and you picked another game) or the game died. Is that about right?

Edited by Captain Midnight, 15 December 2012 - 07:14 AM.

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[S3dition]

Captain Midnight, on 15 December 2012 - 07:10 AM, said:

Prove it 8v8 and bring that awesome, because you're basically telling me you know better than I do, but you don't and you're wrong... Neither of us will back down, but because I'm right I don't have a problem proving it... Let's see if you do, or if you're just a pugstomping all-star.


The lesson here is that you and a friend have used cheese strategies since 1942 and never learned how to actually win an aircraft dogfight. Never learned how to counter a 6pool, only how to execute a 6pool. You are a noob and you have cheesed every game you could until they either nerfed the cheese (and you picked another game) or the game died. Is that about right?

Actually, I moved on to BF2142 with an outstanding record of trolling people like you (who were so angry at this tactic that their grammar failed... much in the way yours just did) and he went on to Fallujah and doing it all in real life to real people.

So, no, you're 100% and completely wrong in everything you just said

Basically, anyone in an aircraft was a no-talent K/D noob that died 15:1 when on the ground. We just showed you what was what.

Edited by S3dition, 15 December 2012 - 07:18 AM.

[Khobai]

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Prove it 8v8 and bring that awesome, because you're basically telling me you know better than I do, but you don't and you're wrong

Um your logic is flawed. "I know better than you until you fight me in an 8v8" works both ways. You dont know jack sh*t until YOU beat me. But yeah when your done trying to instigate your little p*ssing matches, maybe you could try formulating an actual written defense your arguments? You seem incapable of doing that, and instead "fight me 8v8" always seems to be your blatantly transparent default response. That's typical 12 year old behavior. Ahahaha.

Edited by Khobai, 15 December 2012 - 07:21 AM.

[Captain Midnight]

Well my logic isn't flawed because you'd rather insult my maturity than play so clearly my skill isn't in question, I mean what do you want me to say? The awesome you describe is terrible and awesomes in general are terrible. If you want me to prove it, I will. If you want to keep it a matter of opinion then in my opinion your awesome is terrible and anyone that listens to a word you have to say will be worse for it. I was trying to goad you into fighting me on video (because I know how it'll end, zero doubt in my mind, it'll be a great video 8-0) and then I'd post that video to support my arguments but if you don't wanna play then so be it, just be sure to post that. :-)

Edited by Captain Midnight, 15 December 2012 - 07:26 AM.

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Khobai, on 15 December 2012 - 07:16 AM, said:

Um your logic is flawed. "I know better than you until you fight me in an 8v8" works both ways. You dont know jack sh*t until YOU beat me.

LOL, testosterone and trolls runs at high levels inside MWO forums my friend. Is hard to find a flawless logic arround here.

Captain Midnight, on 15 December 2012 - 07:03 AM, said:

Have you played a competitive 8? Ever? No one who has ever played a competitive 8 would say an awesome is "better" than anything, except maybe a hunchback? Even people who wish 8s were different will say "Awesomes ought to be viable, it's stupid that 8 mans are just raven 3Ls and atlas DDCs that's boring". They won't actually say an awesome IS viable, because it isn't.

I think the current meta is boring too, and I'm actually railing against it currently, but it is what it is and you reveal your ignorance by claiming it is not what it is.

Now about a competitive 8 vs 8... YES ! I have played some matches that end up tied due competitive players ALL OVER THE PLACE; strategy, patience, commanding and a lot of other skills are at their max while playing 8 vs 8. I really dont understeand what you were talking about Capitan Midnight...maybe the problem is the hard time everyone is having at brawling on 8 vs 8 due the fact that, most of those players are experienced.

S3dition, on 15 December 2012 - 07:00 AM, said:

SRM cats are overrated. My AWS-8R popped enemies in situations my A1 couldn't even dream of.

Well yes, same as streak cats... they have their downsides, but I have bee running over ppl since I made my first one, hardly 1 out of 20 / 25 games I ever get killed. The rest I'll get an averag of 4+ kills per game.

[IceSerpent]

S3dition, on 15 December 2012 - 04:43 AM, said:

Actually, SSRM are not as powerful as everyone claims.

Dude, that was supposed to be a secret. Now all those SSRM+ECM pilots might wisen up and stop tying to slug it out with my Swayback lol.

[I Just Ate Your Grapes Bro]

Captain Midnight, on 15 December 2012 - 06:33 AM, said:

Yeah, I don't care what the pugs think. I want the game to be good for them too but balance is not decided at the low end, it's decided at the high end. A perfectly balanced weapon for 99% of the awful playerbase might ruin the game for the 1% who actually know how the play, and many games have nerfed many weapons for this reason.

Long story short, I could care less what people like you think. You are cattle, and I want the cattle to be well fed but I am not upset if the cattle would prefer greener grass as they happily munch on brown grass.

Guess what.... it's the cattle that decide the fate of your precious game... Clearly someone doesn't understand supply and demand... among MANY other things.

And please don't PM me whining about me posting "against" you, if that happens on the regular, it isn't a personal thing, it's because you are wrong ...... a LOT. *shrug* as S3dition stated, you've pretty much thrown your credibility out the window with your little rants here, ESPECIALLY that whole "I'm the best player in the world and I play more than anyone evar!!11!eleven!"


You crack me up son.


You honestly think that balance lies in the 1% of the top of the playerbase? Just reading that made me feel dumber... Why do you think MMOs constantly have nerfs going on? Because the 1% of the population learns how to ABUSE (not be a champion with, get it right, running 8 mechs with all streaks and ECM is NOT being a pro, it's abusing a system, if it weren't, EVERY mech would have ECM and missile hardpoints) something that worked well for the majority, then won't stop with the abuse until it has to become commonplace for people to be on even ground.

A perfect example would be when Deathknights were introduced to WoW, alone, not a big deal, but if you stacked them, suddenly your team was unstoppable, that didn't make you BETTER than the other team, it made you, as you put it "cheese". And you kid, are some bangin' nachos...

Also, if your E-peen is as black as you claim it is, why haven't you swung your numbers around at all? You claim to be the BEST mechwarrior there is, swear that numbers prove it, yet hide them deep in the dark rather than flaunting them like someone of your..... um.... caliber? would.

Edited by Ehrithane, 16 December 2012 - 05:13 AM.

[I Just Ate Your Grapes Bro]

Captain Midnight, on 15 December 2012 - 06:41 AM, said:

I can sync drop against you and get you to shut up on the forums if you're man enough. I will NEVER back down from a challenge and unless you play against me with your 8 man I don't care what you have to say. If you think my number of games, my stats, if you think that doesn't matter then prove it, otherwise get out of the way because I am better than you are and what I say matters as opposed to what you say when it comes to game balance.

I will PAY you to show me exactly how this formula equates...

Weapon that does all the targeting for us + Item that automatically makes us invisible to all radar x 8 mechs = Any level of skill.


Money for explanation...

go.

[BerryChunks]

S3dition, on 15 December 2012 - 03:41 AM, said:

This is caused by the improper use of the term "missile". Though historically a missile is anything with a ranged component (from arrows to musket balls) it's now considered a guided projectile.

SRM's are actually rockets, not "missiles." You can't really blame PGI for this, as all the weapons were named and classified back in the 80's with FASA's creation of Battletech.

It's basically an issue of etymology vs common use.

That doesn't explain the MRL = Medium range rocket launchers.

Anything called a missile has some guidance system. SRMs do lock on in original battletech. They have a 50% failure rate to track and hit target. SSRMs are supposed to have 100% hit rate by "ensuring all tubes lock before it can fire".

IOW, SRMs can fire any time, but can achieve lock if you hold them aimed on target.