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[Bguk]

Yeah, there are those who can wait. We can see this is a beta in our eyes. We can know that we enjoy what we're playing. We see there are those that don't enjoy it or can't wait. That's fine. To each their own. Are there problems? Sure. Show me one that doesn't and then I'll wake up. Keep plugging away as long as you're making money. How long will that be? Who knows. Me, I can wait.

Call me a fanboy or whatever it is the cool kids call a fan these days. If it helps you sleep at night I can take it.

[DrBunji]

Bguk, on 16 December 2012 - 09:11 PM, said:

Yeah, there are those who can wait. We can see this is a beta in our eyes. We can know that we enjoy what we're playing. We see there are those that don't enjoy it or can't wait. That's fine. To each their own. Are there problems? Sure. Show me one that doesn't and then I'll wake up. Keep plugging away as long as you're making money. How long will that be? Who knows. Me, I can wait.

Call me a fanboy or whatever it is the cool kids call a fan these days. If it helps you sleep at night I can take it.

I'm a little worried, but that's much more to do with the market for F2P MMO FPS's that with this game. MW:O offers something truly unique, I just hope it isn't too niche to be sustainable.

[siLve00]

the 16 new ppl who created an account in the past 12 hrs will be with you ... maybe

[Stone Profit]

Im not worried. Im so not worried thast I dropped another 50 bucks on mc yesterday, to ensure that I have enough to buy each and every hero mech the day they come out. Wait, no, I am worried. Worried IM NOT GETTING NEW MECHS FAST ENOUGH! But that's my own instant gratification issue I need to deal with. lol.

Edited by Stone Profit, 16 December 2012 - 09:27 PM.

[Bguk]

siLve00, on 16 December 2012 - 09:25 PM, said:

the 16 new ppl who created an account in the past 12 hrs will be with you ... maybe

And I hope they are. Your doom and gloom thread is somewhere else though. <insert stupid Internet smiley>

[siLve00]

Bguk, on 16 December 2012 - 09:27 PM, said:

And I hope they are. Your doom and gloom thread is somewhere else though. <insert stupid Internet smiley>

for some1 who claims hes mature your acting like a little kid right now.. iam just honest.
the truth does hurt sometimes... i rather would like to play MW:O as to give it up... since iam realy a fanboi of MW.. but i just go back to TT ( that stupid smile were just for the mature guy )

Edited by siLve00, 16 December 2012 - 09:37 PM.

[Bguk]

siLve00, on 16 December 2012 - 09:36 PM, said:

for some1 who claims hes mature your acting like a little kid right now.. iam just honest.
the truth does hurt sometimes... i rather would like to play MW:O as to give it up... since iam realy a fanboi of MW.. but i just go back to TT ( that stupid smile were just for the mature guy )

Where did I say I was mature? Maybe in the waiting aspect but damn you should see my extremely immature side.

You're being honest with your opinions, I can respect that. And I can also let you know that your thread is that a way.

I don't even mind if it's one per day. As long as this game is going I can live with it. It's more to the point of those who can't live with it. As if the game doesn't have gazillions of players it's a fail. I'm ok with a small playerbase of a game.

[Stone Profit]

siLve00, on 16 December 2012 - 09:36 PM, said:

for some1 who claims hes mature your acting like a little kid right now.. iam just honest.
the truth does hurt sometimes... i rather would like to play MW:O as to give it up... since iam realy a fanboi of MW.. but i just go back to TT ( that stupid smile were just for the mature guy )

I neither saw him say he was mature, nor did I see him acting like a kid. A common problem on these forums, individuals using words incorrectly.

[p00k]

optimism is wonderful, but "it's a beta" only goes so far. "it's a beta" means there are bugs, that the game will crash, that features are still missing, that matchmaking will use a minimally functional placeholder, and that gameplay elements won't be perfectly balanced.

"it's a beta" does not, however, cover ineptitude when it comes to development strategy.
it does not cover introducing gameplay elements that serve to exacerbate existing problems (netcode/lagshield) instead of those that don't (e.g. modules, pilot trees)
it does not cover adding gameplay modes that favor already broken playstyles that already have, perhaps transiently, unbalanced gameplay elements (you think base capping is bad now? wait til lights can just run away and cap elsewhere)
it does not cover balancing strategies that involve buffing or nerfing in multiple ways while simultaneously fixing bugs that made the initial assessment of efficacy unreliable (lrm's, gauss, dhs values, artemis)
it does not cover denying that certain gameplay elements are transiently unbalanced by claiming future gameplay elements may balance them, especially when those future gameplay elements clearly do not address why something is broken in the first place (e.g. matchmaking as well as the ecm situation)

also, remember, this is open beta on a f2p game. mc purchases are final. experience gained is final. as the devs have stated themselves, for a f2p game, open beta essentially is launch.

actually, forget that. that's besides the point. we'll treat it as a beta. people aren't complaining that it's an imperfect, incomplete product. people are complaining that the devs' solution to these imperfections is erratic--negligent at times (how long have ppcs, machine guns, and flamers sucked?), excessively reactionary at others, and might as well be a coin flip on whether the next adjustment is for the better or worse

[PANZERBUNNY]

Blind optimism.

[Bguk]

PANZERBUNNY, on 16 December 2012 - 09:55 PM, said:

Blind optimism.

Not blind. There are issues. The game is still in development so not dead as others are stating. Optimism, sure. Blind, nah. I'll be optimistic as long as I keep seeing updates coming.

p00k, on 16 December 2012 - 09:54 PM, said:

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And I don't disagree with you. You bring up valid points. Yet I can still wait. That's the point. This is a game, not my life. If I were sick and the ineptitude of doctors to find out what was wrong with me failed, I'd be pissed, wanting answers. For a game? Yeah, I can wait.

[p00k]

Bguk, on 16 December 2012 - 09:58 PM, said:

Not blind. There are issues. The game is still in development so not dead as others are stating. Optimism, sure. Blind, nah. I'll be optimistic as long as I keep seeing updates coming.

and knowing the devs, next update will make ecm weigh 1 ton and take 1 crit, and if you press a secret key combination it instantly makes all the enemy mechs explode in place.

but it's balanced, because 10 months from now they'll add another code that the other team can type in first to stop your keyboard from transmitting

but that's balanced too because 5 years from now if the game is still around you can equip hats on your mechs

[Teralitha]

Bguk, on 16 December 2012 - 09:58 PM, said:

Not blind. There are issues. The game is still in development so not dead as others are stating. Optimism, sure. Blind, nah. I'll be optimistic as long as I keep seeing updates coming.

But what if every update is bad?(like it has been lately)

[Lonestar1771]

Teralitha, on 16 December 2012 - 10:01 PM, said:

But what if every update is bad?(like it has been lately)

Or never fixes what has been and is currently broken. (which they haven't)

Edited by Lonestar1771, 16 December 2012 - 10:04 PM.

[Bguk]

Teralitha, on 16 December 2012 - 10:01 PM, said:

But what if every update is bad?(like it has been lately)

To you it has been bad. Not for all. I've been ok with the recent updates. Notice ok, not great. Let's see what the future brings. I, for one, am hopeful.

[Vassago Rain]

I'm worried.

[siLve00]

Bguk, on 16 December 2012 - 10:01 PM, said:

Not blind. There are issues. The game is still in development so not dead as others are stating. Optimism, sure. Blind, nah. I'll be optimistic as long as I keep seeing updates coming.

thats the difference.. i dont see updates coming..

DHS ( 1.4 we did a great testing .. didnt we ? )
2 maps ( yeah wow.. same maps snow and well bleh )
ECM
LRM nerfs ssrm gauss nerfs .. lets call it weapon balancing...

that happend in 2 month..
on the other hand we got 3 hero mechs some paintings and stuff for our cockpits.. are you kidding me ? this game is falling appart with everyday and they are creating bling bling.
they told us, 4 weeks ago, they will focus on the netcode and bugfixes... what happend ? read above !

as you see i dont even talk about gameplay at all... thats secondary in this case ( atleast for me.. i just join the fotm and have fun )

[Bguk]

siLve00, on 16 December 2012 - 10:17 PM, said:

thats the difference.. i dont see updates coming..

DHS ( 1.4 we did a great testing .. didnt we ? )
2 maps ( yeah wow.. same maps snow and well bleh )
ECM
LRM nerfs ssrm gauss nerfs .. lets call it weapon balancing...

that happend in 2 month..
on the other hand we got 3 hero mechs some paintings and stuff for our cockpits.. are you kidding me ? this game is falling appart with everyday and they are creating bling bling.
they told us, 4 weeks ago, they will focus on the netcode and bugfixes... what happend ? read above !

as you see i dont even talk about gameplay at all... thats secondary in this case ( atleast for me.. i just join the fotm and have fun )

And I can respect that. Again, some can wait, some can't. I created this as a response to the other thread.

[siLve00]

Bguk, on 16 December 2012 - 10:21 PM, said:

And I can respect that. Again, some can wait, some can't. I created this as a response to the other thread.

and why ?

to show PGI that everything is okay ? so your swiming against the mass ?
you think thats a good idea when 90% ( wild guess hehe ) of the community thinks major bugs need to be fixed asap because their friends keep quiting and their friendlists are offline ?

i did start playing MW:O with 21 ( !!!! ) ppl.. guess whos left.. 1 single hardcore fan ! that shouldnt worry me ?
then i see the membercounter of the forum.. 414,299 ( 14 hrs ago it were 414.276 ppl ... )
imagine how many ppl keep playing who arent MW fans ?

thats the point iam worried the most .. and now iam realy off because i have to head for work lol

and i guess i wont even looking to much into this board anyways in near future.. lets hope the best and happy x-mas and happy new year to all of you and your families

[Bguk]

siLve00, on 16 December 2012 - 10:32 PM, said:

and why ?

to show PGI that everything is okay ? so your swiming against the mass ?
you think thats a good idea when 90% ( wild guess hehe ) of the community thinks major bugs need to be fixed asap because their friends keep quiting and their friendlists are offline ?

i did start playing MW:O with 21 ( !!!! ) ppl.. guess whos left.. 1 single hardcore fan ! that shouldnt worry me ?
then i see the membercounter of the forum.. 414,299 ( 14 hrs ago it were 414.276 ppl ... )
imagine how many ppl keep playing who arent MW fans ?

thats the point iam worried the most .. and now iam realy off because i have to head for work lol

and i guess i wont even looking to much into this board anyways in near future.. lets hope the best and happy x-mas and happy new year to all of you and your families

To show they still have support from some players. They already know that I can guess but I'd rather have at least one nice topic out there instead of all the doom and gloom currently swarming the forums. Again, I'm not debating the problems with the game. Just stating I can wait for a game to be developed.

I should be off as well. I second your final notion.