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[Zaptruder]

Some mechs are obviously quite OP... so lets get a community poll on which ones they think are the most OP mechs.

To me, Raven 3L is without doubt at the top of this list.

Best speed, great armaments, ECM - it can take down any other mech in this game 1 on 1. It'll even wipe out an Atlas D-DC given enough time.

It's the mech I get into when I want to play easy mode.

Edited by Zaptruder, 11 January 2013 - 12:36 AM.

[Windsaw]

Even with ECM, the Atlas is quite defeatable. Even if it means dumbfiring LRMs. And he is just as vulnerable to light mechs as everybody else. Don't even need streaks because of his slow speed.

No, I don't think the ECM-Atlas is overpowered.
Now the ECM-lights OTOH...

[Orgasmo]

Raven 3L, the hit box is messed up. At least with Commando 2D you can score hits consistently.

[Zaptruder]

Ravennus, on 11 January 2013 - 12:36 AM, said:

Reported

Ravennus eh... Lemme guess, butt-hurt ECM Raven Pilot?

[Chavette]

Zaptruder, on 11 January 2013 - 12:39 AM, said:

Ravennus eh... Lemme guess, butt-hurt ECM Raven Pilot?

I like his style.. lol

[Elkarlo]

Nearly Everymech is OP, when you find the Optimum Setup for him.
Searching the Worst Chassi of a Mech Config would make more sense.
As instance STK-3F, STK-5S are nearly the same, one got better Twist, other get more AMS, both same Slots.
Both can do good HexPep kills and Brawler Rush's.
5M is another good Stalker with LRM crazy option.

The STK 3H and 4N are simply crap compared to the other three.

And so has every Chassi his Low Par performer,
The Highpar performer are all good and you see them everywhere everyday. And in the right Hands all are OP.

Btw two days ago the Same poll was on.


And for the Raven OP an example:
In Premades we run 2 Times in a 4 man ECM raven Premade ( the same guys the same Mechs)
Our Premade had one Ace Raven Pilot, a Cent, a Dragon and a Lazy dumb Stalker LRM boat. ( was me)
The first time i died very quickly but bought some time against them. the second time they needed extremly long to kill me. And EVERYTIME we beated them, because of Teamwork.
So Teamwork is more OP then anything else.

Edited by Elkarlo, 11 January 2013 - 12:48 AM.

[Zaptruder]

Elkarlo, on 11 January 2013 - 12:42 AM, said:

Nearly Everymech is OP, when you find the Optimum Setup for him.
Searching the Worst Chassi of a Mech Config would make more sense.
As instance STK-3F, STK-5S are nearly the same, one got better Twist, other get more AMS, both same Slots.
Both can do good HexPep kills and Brawler Rush's.
5M is another good Stalker with LRM crazy option.

The STK 3H and 4N are simply crap compared to the other three.

And so has every Chassi his Low Par performer,
The Highpar performer are all good and you see them everywhere everyday. And in the right Hands all are OP.

Btw two days ago the Same poll was on.

Ideally, if the mechs were all nicely balanced, then the bottom option should outrank the other items on this list significantly.

But it's not... which is kinda sad. On the flipside, there are a good number of viable builds in this game, even if a couple stand alone in their own tier.

[Taurick]

Elkarlo, on 11 January 2013 - 12:42 AM, said:

The STK 3H and 4N are simply crap compared to the other three.

The 3H is actually pretty much god for LRM boats

Counting launch tubes will get you better performance

[Ravennus]

Zaptruder, on 11 January 2013 - 12:39 AM, said:

Ravennus eh... Lemme guess, butt-hurt ECM Raven Pilot?

No actually. It's been my internet handle since about 2001.
It's based on the name of a catholic saint I discovered while researching the Bayeux Tapestry.

http://en.wikipedia....us_and_Ravennus

You can google it if you like. You'll find my name pop up on many other forums and games.


Would you like to insult me further?

[Elkarlo]

Taurich, on 11 January 2013 - 01:54 AM, said:

The 3H is actually pretty much god for LRM boats

Counting launch tubes will get you better performance

Thought it had the same 2x10 Configuration as an Atlas. And it would make the inner Slots for LRM 10 Useless as a single AMS would get the follow through missles down. And only the first Bunch would hit. And the best Missle Boat is still the 5M.
CT = Tag Slot. 4x Energy Slots for M-Laser close Defense.
Narc Missle Slot for LRM5 to expent enemy AMS ammo. ( they fire 3 times on a single Missle...)

[VXJaeger]

Raven 3L is so OP, that I got bored and mothballed it.

[Joseph Mallan]

Voted for the Raven. Only because Lag shield seems to work best for them.

[Straythief]

We have some idiots in this poll. Seriously a raven? In every
Mechwarrior the raven was just one piece a s***. Did people say
It can beat an atlas dc? Hahahahaha plz stop. Remove lagshield
and what do we get then? A WALKING PIECE OF JUNK.
Light mechs should be used as scout and hit an run. Now I see them
Challange every mech because they have lagshield and somehow
there almost invicible when just running around them.

And No aiming skills are not crap. Somehow they dont
get damaged by my atlas when I fire 3x 6srm them and
you see them actually get a full hit and how they get only
1% damage.

[Shae Starfyre]

I think they are only OP in packs working together....wait, that denotes teamwork. Sorry, wrong post.

[Asakara]

I wish there was a "I do not think any variant is OP" option in the poll.

I believe that if this poll had been posted this prior to the introduction of ECM some people would have said the Jenner D due to "broken hit boxes", its high speed "lagshield", and the " broken netcode". I suspect it would have been one of the more popular choices.

Post ECM: The Jenner's speed is unchanged, the hit boxes are unchanged, and netcode is the same... And it does not even make the list. Funny how things change.

[Bguk]

I voted for all because, as we know from these very forums, everything is op.

[Ngamok]

Sorry but dual AC/20s to the face makes the Raven a sad panda. That is if they are running right at me it's easy to hit them. If they are running perpendicular to me, I have to lead them and hope that it lands. But if it lands, instant leg or arm gone + carry over damage.

[PropagandaWar]

I dont think the mech itself is OP. Even the weapons for the most part aren't as long as they continue being tweaked. I am refering to the streak it is supposed to be getting the fix to where the shots spread across mech instead of upper torso when that goes into affect mr commando and raven won't be getting those crazy kills. Now with equipment I feel the ECM gives you a bit to much for investing very little (one of my suggestions was making it only affect said mech and that only dumbfire missles would work as long as it was on due to it messing with mechs own targeting lock equipment). As far as the mechs are concerned I have hit Ravens in the back and given no damage but when the other mech is working correctly I have easily have easily cored a light to yellow with 4 medium lasers or ripped its sides up. That's code/lag and stuff being worked on so the mech itself is not op. If that constitues OP then so is my hunchy because I've even apologized to people when they alphed me and I have taken no damage. Its more noticible on the smaller mechs because they are supposed to rip apart quickly. Also when they start collsions again you will notice even less lights out there so the next op mech a streak cat. I do think there are some stupid mechs out there that arent OP but just BS and thats the ThunderCat and Gaussapult. The only beef I have with them is all the other big cannon torso mechs show a big cannon in their torso. Dual AC 20 and Gauss arent OP you sacrifice a lot to get them on your mech. The Muromets arms and torsos are easy to rip off however the cats arent because they are next to nonexistant.

[RumRunner151]

You didn't specify regular or 8-man. Huge difference.

[Serapth]

I would say 3l, but thats not accurate.

ECM and Streaks are OP. ECM with Streaks is massively OP. Netcode and broken hitboxes are OP.

It's just Raven 3l has all of these, plus the ability to mount a 295XL engine.


Let's take the speed limit off Hunchbacks and watch a natural Raven killer emerge!


It's the bad hitboxes that infuriate me the most. It seems to vary between matches, sometimes I can strafe them with lasers. Other matches Im simply doomed. I've literally put 5 or 6 minutes of sustained LL fire into a Raven and watched it walk away. It makes you start thinking HACKS.

3 people called the HBK-4SP OPed???

Edited by Serapth, 11 January 2013 - 11:15 AM.