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#181 Mack1

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 12:47 PM

No ECM fix
Another ECM Mech
A joke module for LRM's
No Netcode fix

https://www.youtube....O86OJV-TI#t=96s

#182 Dishevel

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 12:47 PM

View PostJason1138, on 15 January 2013 - 12:28 PM, said:


honestly, yes or no, are you saying that you think they tested the phract and didn't catch that its cockpit was so huge?


Heck. They told us the Spider was bad then they put it in the game so they could find out it is worse on the live servers (What is not) and pull it.

WTF?

Is there anybody home?

#183 Codejack

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 12:47 PM

View PostSlXSlXSlX, on 15 January 2013 - 12:44 PM, said:

Aim at and kill ecm mechs, make smart decisions in the mech lab like.... dont go pure lrm or streak. Ask a mate with ecm, some pub, to counter. Aim at stragglers, unless ecm covers the whole map now? You need to think outside the box Man. Need more anti-ecm solutions? I could put them in list form if you need. Perhaps in crayon? QQing about it on the forums isnt going to get you anywhere RE: ECM, we can all see through your B.S.

Thanks for replying though.


Great, so you can kill ECM mechs who aren't as skilled as you; that is all that you are talking about. Of course it works that way!

The question is, does ECM give an advantage that overcomes skill advantages, and that answer is obviously, "Yes."

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 12:52 PM

View PostSlXSlXSlX, on 15 January 2013 - 12:44 PM, said:

Aim at and kill ecm mechs, make smart decisions in the mech lab like.... dont go pure lrm or streak. Ask a mate with ecm, some pub, to counter. Aim at stragglers, unless ecm covers the whole map now? You need to think outside the box Man. Need more anti-ecm solutions? I could put them in list form if you need. Perhaps in crayon? QQing about it on the forums isnt going to get you anywhere RE: ECM, we can all see through your B.S.

Thanks for replying though.

Sorry to shoot down your strawman but I own 15 mechs and only have 2 LRM launchers mounted between all of them. I play brawlers almost exclusively. For that matter when I run a 4 man with the guys and we ECM up, we stomp ***. It isn't even fair how quickly we can destroy the other team when we run an ECM team. As for writing me something in crayon... I'm not sure you have ability to write complete sentences without a spell checker fixing it for you so I won't ask you to strain yourself.

Edited by Mancu, 15 January 2013 - 12:59 PM.


#185 River Walker

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 12:55 PM

Will its time to move on to MWT and put my money in to something that the Dev their work on and at lest try to make work.
I was going to blow 50$ on MC to day but that is a wast of my money after seeing what PGI has put out over the last 2 update.
No content and no bug fix just BS and more promises that thing will be better down the road.

Will the road is a dead end PGI and I am geting off this ride until you start working on content for this 4 map wounder you call MWO. :P

#186 Codejack

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 12:56 PM

View PostRiver Walker, on 15 January 2013 - 12:55 PM, said:

Will its time to move on to MWT and put my money in to something that the Dev their work on and at lest try to make work.
I was going to blow 50$ on MC to day but that is a wast of my money after seeing what PGI has put out over the last 2 update.
No content and no bug fix just BS and more promises that thing will be better down the road.

Will the road is a dead end PGI and I am geting off this ride until you start working on content for this 4 map wounder you call MWO. :P


Isn't MWT being developed by the same people?

#187 Congzilla

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 12:59 PM

View PostRiver Walker, on 15 January 2013 - 12:55 PM, said:

Will its time to move on to MWT and put my money in to something that the Dev their work on and at lest try to make work.
I was going to blow 50$ on MC to day but that is a wast of my money after seeing what PGI has put out over the last 2 update.
No content and no bug fix just BS and more promises that thing will be better down the road.

Will the road is a dead end PGI and I am geting off this ride until you start working on content for this 4 map wounder you call MWO. :P

The new mech and pilot modules aren't content?

#188 Aedensin

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 01:02 PM

View PostCodejack, on 15 January 2013 - 12:16 PM, said:


So now the question becomes:

Are they making a game for themselves or are they making a games for everyone else?

The answer to that one is important.


We got that answer when the Urban mech was denied because Paul hates it.

Oh well, still a fun game in my opinion.

#189 Jason1138

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 01:02 PM

View PostCongzilla, on 15 January 2013 - 12:59 PM, said:

The new mech and pilot modules aren't content?



new mech is useless without better JJ's and higher top game speed. even the devs are warning you about how bad it is in the patch notes, come on

i haven't tried the new pilot modules so i won't comment on those

#190 mekabuser

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 01:04 PM

View PostKuruptU4Fun, on 15 January 2013 - 11:41 AM, said:

In reading every post in this thread I continue to see so many people who have been dissapointed with this game for months. If that's the case then nothing PGI can do or has done will satisfy you. Since your satisfaction will never be sated, maybe it's time for you to move on to something else. Seriously, give it some thought. You can obviously read the patch notes PGI gives out here and via email. Use them as a gauge as to when you'd like to return if at all.

no, i like mechs.. I played mw4 for years with 50 people online. I played mwll with 100 for 3 years.. I still kinda like playing this game.. 95%of my online gaming has been mw titles.
I am just
DiSsa point... :wub:

btw, spider is ok as long as a douche isnt piloting one.. If you juke all over the place, just button mash,, nothing registers.
Unfortunatley , we have a huge douche playerbase. :P

#191 Serapth

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 01:05 PM

View PostCodejack, on 15 January 2013 - 12:47 PM, said:


Great, so you can kill ECM mechs who aren't as skilled as you; that is all that you are talking about. Of course it works that way!

The question is, does ECM give an advantage that overcomes skill advantages, and that answer is obviously, "Yes."



Havent you noticed from the Likes, that it basically boils down to about 6 people in total that support ECM? I mean, I watch thread after thread and it is always the same half dozen people, over and over. The pro-ECM faction seems to be minuscule.

Edited by Serapth, 15 January 2013 - 01:06 PM.


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Posted 15 January 2013 - 01:05 PM

No more money for PGI. I regret purchasing MC in an attempt to support the devs. What a bunch of *******. They don't listen to community concerns and keep grabbing at cash instead of fixing their broken and imbalanced game.

NO MORE MONEY FROM ME, PGI!

#193 River Walker

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 01:05 PM

View PostCodejack, on 15 January 2013 - 12:56 PM, said:


Isn't MWT being developed by the same people?

No they are affiliated one of them knows what they are doing the other is blowing it.
Guise which one is blowing it :P

Edited by River Walker, 15 January 2013 - 01:07 PM.


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Posted 15 January 2013 - 01:06 PM

View PostGODzillaGSPB, on 15 January 2013 - 11:07 AM, said:

LOL! They did nothing to ECM. Instead they're...they're actually mocking us, don't they? Sensor Range for those LRM boats who feel the pain of ECM, really? :P So now LRM-boats cannot track their enemies over bigger distances! xD

No, the LRM-boat D-DCs will now be able to auto-target everyone out to 1000m - 250m outside the max range of TAG, well out of visual on most maps.

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 01:08 PM

View PostRiver Walker, on 15 January 2013 - 01:05 PM, said:

No they are affiliated one of them knows what they are doing the other is blowing it.
Guise which one is blowing it ;)



Is MWT actually worth checking out? The initial rummages didn't sound encouraging.

#196 Balsover

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 01:10 PM

View PostSerapth, on 15 January 2013 - 01:08 PM, said:



Is MWT actually worth checking out? The initial rummages didn't sound encouraging.


Because of how MWO is going, I'm waiting for leaked video of MWT before I buy into anything.

Edited by Balsover, 15 January 2013 - 01:11 PM.


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Posted 15 January 2013 - 01:11 PM

View PostSerapth, on 15 January 2013 - 01:08 PM, said:



Is MWT actually worth checking out? The initial rummages didn't sound encouraging.


It looks nifty enough but the mechs themselves are rather bizarre looking compared to MWO and even old BT art. Plus I've seen a few posts where it apparently needs some optimization.

#198 Kristov Kerensky

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 01:12 PM

View PostSerapth, on 15 January 2013 - 01:05 PM, said:



Havent you noticed from the Likes, that it basically boils down to about 6 people in total that support ECM? I mean, I watch thread after thread and it is always the same half dozen people, over and over. The pro-ECM faction seems to be minuscule.


Haven't you noticed that the number of people constantly complaining about ECM are also about 6 people? ECM has counters besides more ECM, you folks NOT using those is your own fault.

Just exited a drop, enemy had 4 ECM, my side had 0..guess who won? We did, lost 0 players on our side on top of that. Pure PUG drop as well, so it wasn't coordinated voip players who simply overwhelmed the poor PUGs with 4 matching Raven 3Ls(same Phraken paint..we've all seen that group haven't we). ECM isn't any where near as powerful as some of you make out, you just haven't figured out that you don't HAVE to use SSRMs to kill everything. Hells, had someone take out my Spider 5D(ECM version) with an AC20 while I was hauling at 130+kph AND 2x the height of an Atlas in the air! SOME of us can aim and hit our targets without using lockon weaponary. Try it sometime, it's not that hard to do.

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 01:16 PM

View PostKristov Kerensky, on 15 January 2013 - 01:12 PM, said:


Haven't you noticed that the number of people constantly complaining about ECM are also about 6 people? ECM has counters besides more ECM, you folks NOT using those is your own fault.




See theres the thing... no, I havent. I see literally hundreds of unique usernames commenting about ECM negatively. I see it bring a number of first time , or low post count, posters out to create threads disparaging it.

If it was a vocal subset on each side, that would be pretty much par for the course on an MMO ( or game in general ) forum, but in this case it certainly isn't. Every poll, every thread, everything, shows a large portion of the community dislikes it, a smaller portion willing to live with it, and a microscopic portion supporting it. Plus of course apparently, the devs.

View PostAedensin, on 15 January 2013 - 01:11 PM, said:


It looks nifty enough but the mechs themselves are rather bizarre looking compared to MWO and even old BT art. Plus I've seen a few posts where it apparently needs some optimization.



Well to be honest, even though I am a long time fan, I HATED the FASA era art style, both in Battletech, Shadowrun and Earthdawn. It was after Microsofts ownership and the early Wizkids era they hit their sweet spot artistically. Although the Jihad era stuff went far too anime for my liking.

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 01:19 PM

View PostStrucker, on 15 January 2013 - 12:28 PM, said:

I see alot of players QQing about another ECM mech, to be honest if you've put up with it till now your in it for the long haul. Atleast this one doesn't have the ability to streak boat.

*** yeah.I want my stalker 3Fb with ECM.Not sh1tty 30 ton ECM mech with 3 energy(LOL here) slots which is good only untill they fix netcode...





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