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[Imperius]

This is considered a beta and should be treated as such. So when you (PGI) claim this game is no longer BETA. You should reset and refund premium time wasted when the game unplayable by most.

[Harmatia]

Although I do agree, we all did click on the "activate" button for premium time. So...

[DaZur]

I cannot fathom the asinine rational level around here sometimes...

[Imperius]

Harmatia, on 20 January 2013 - 10:45 PM, said:

Although I do agree, we all did click on the "activate" button for premium time. So...

So, nothing, they can't claim that the game is playable. I'd be fine if it went off how much time I actually played, but it counts down regardless of if I play or not and this game with its bugs and real bad balance is not playable.

[Imperius]

DaZur, on 20 January 2013 - 10:47 PM, said:

I cannot fathom the asinine rational level around here sometimes...

What is so asinine about my rational? They don't even attempt to balance crap but they will for sure take our money. Anytime someone has a problem they go well it is just a beta and scuff it off. Well I wouldn't have clicked my founders time if I knew they were going to add ECM and ignore how much it broke the game. Missiles were the only "sure fire" way to kill net code shielded lights. Sure I can lag shoot and waste half my ammo in a game that gives very little ammo makes sense.

[DrBlue62]

No.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Imperius, on 20 January 2013 - 10:44 PM, said:

This is considered a beta and should be treated as such. So when you (PGI) claim this game is no longer BETA. You should reset and refund premium time wasted when the game unplayable by most.

thats would assume the game was truly in beta and not "soft launch". If it was in a soft launch you wouldnt expect a reset, which is why I dont expect either

[Imperius]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 20 January 2013 - 10:53 PM, said:

thats would assume the game was truly in beta and not "soft launch". If it was in a soft launch you wouldnt expect a reset, which is why I dont expect either

Says MWO BETA not MWO soft launch. I know they just use it to cover their bumpkin. Still not fair to us. I wouldn't really care that I hit it if they listened to their forums even a little, but we know they they don't even check them anymore and just do mass deletes.

Edited by Imperius, 20 January 2013 - 11:05 PM.

[QuantumButler]

Hahaha.

The "beta" label is nothing but a lie, the game is released, this is the game, nothing's going to be reset.

[SatB]

Reset?
Mastering mechs again doesn't sound that bad actually. Anyway i'm piloting each mech only while there exp left to spend on it. Never actually piloted fully mastered mech yet. So I don't really care. Reset or not i'll continue playing while its fun.

Problem is I don't think alot of ppl will be OK with reset.

[Imperius]

SatB, on 20 January 2013 - 11:06 PM, said:

Reset?
Mastering mechs again doesn't sound that bad actually. Anyway i'm piloting each mech only while there exp left to spend on it. Never actually piloted fully mastered mech yet. So I don't really care. Reset or not i'll continue playing while its fun.

Problem is I don't think alot of ppl will be OK with reset.

Thats why I said stats and premium time. The only things effected by lack of a stable balanced game. Not C-bills or experience. For god sake the fact we still play this neglected game they should be happy.

Edited by Imperius, 20 January 2013 - 11:27 PM.

[KuruptU4Fun]

Imperius, on 20 January 2013 - 11:26 PM, said:

Thats why I said stats and premium time. The only things effected by lack of a stable balanced game. Not C-bills or experience. For god sake the fact we still play this neglected game they should be happy.

If they're going to reset stuff Imperius, they will reset everything. Personally I've got 6 mastered out mechs that I've invested dozens if not hundreds of hours of time to build. I'm not keen about the idea of losing all that time building because, according to you, the game is unplayable. My example proves otherwise, the game is playable, just not to a set of loosely defined reasons some people believe it isn't. I'm not not a programmer, but I'm betting the problems the dev's face is a lot like trying to plug a beaver dam with a handful of chopsticks. We as Founders have had time to ask for a refund for our money, stats and funds reset several times. Then told that we are being given the choice to start our premium time when we feel comfortable doing so. If that's not acceptable then I'm sorry you are having buyers remorse. If you've activated your time then despite your beliefs get some worth out of it. If not, then wait until you are satisfied with the state of the game and start then.

My ultimate suggestion for you is if you don't have a group of friends to play with then by all means find some. Understand my opinion is that your enjoyment will be greatly increased if you do. Maybe that will take some of the edge off...

Edited by KuruptU4Fun, 21 January 2013 - 12:12 AM.

[Vassago Rain]

Harmatia, on 20 January 2013 - 10:45 PM, said:

Although I do agree, we all did click on the "activate" button for premium time. So...

Speak for yourself.

[Imperius]

KuruptU4Fun, on 21 January 2013 - 12:08 AM, said:

If they're going to reset stuff Imperius, they will reset everything. Personally I've got 6 mastered out mechs that I've invested dozens if not hundreds of hours of time to build. I'm not keen about the idea of losing all that time building because, according to you, the game is unplayable. My example proves otherwise, the game is playable, just not to a set of loosely defined reasons some people believe it isn't. I'm not not a programmer, but I'm betting the problems the dev's face is a lot like trying to plug a beaver dam with a handful of chopsticks. We as Founders have had time to ask for a refund for our money, stats and funds reset several times. Then told that we are being given the choice to start our premium time when we feel comfortable doing so. If that's not acceptable then I'm sorry you are having buyers remorse. If you've activated your time then despite your beliefs get some worth out of it. If not, then wait until you are satisfied with the state of the game and start then.

My ultimate suggestion for you is if you don't have a group of friends to play with then by all means find some. Understand it is my belief that your enjoyment will be greatly increased if you do. Maybe that will take some of the edge off...

We all quit all 4 of us, wont play till ECM is fixed we were already dealing with net-code, but ECM put our level of crap that you have to just accept over the edge.

[GalaxyBluestar]

premium time no, stats yes, half of them have been padded by broken and exploited mechanics many have confesed to their raven 3l binge, artimus lrm fest scorers etc etc. until the game is fixed enough to become "live" i don't take anyone's stats seriously.

Edited by GalaxyBluestar, 21 January 2013 - 12:17 AM.

[Noth]

Imperius, on 20 January 2013 - 10:54 PM, said:

Says MWO BETA not MWO soft launch. I

Open betas for nearly all F2P games are soft launches. The nature of beta has greatly changed from back in the day.

[KuruptU4Fun]

Imperius, on 21 January 2013 - 12:13 AM, said:

We all quit all 4 of us, wont play till ECM is fixed we were already dealing with net-code, but ECM put our level of crap that you have to just accept over the edge.

See, my friends and I (play 4 man groups a majority of the time) use communication and varying mech setups to combat ECM. Are we always effective? No, but then my group of friends is about 30 strong, not 4. So we as a group discuss quite often those wins and losses. When someone gets frustrated they may take a break, but with that many people there's often a group to join. Therefore the enjoyment outweighs the "disadvantages" you and others see as unplayable.

Edited by KuruptU4Fun, 21 January 2013 - 12:22 AM.

[MoonUnitBeta]

Imperius, on 20 January 2013 - 10:44 PM, said:

This is considered a beta and should be treated as such. So when you (PGI) claim this game is no longer BETA. You should reset and refund premium time wasted when the game unplayable by most.

I definitely will not be impressed with PGI if they give refunds out to people like you who use your premium time, fully knowing it's in beta. What a terrible excuse. Not only that, it's really going to enrage the founders who were SAVING their premium time, knowing fully that once they activate it, then that's it.
I have been saving my premium time exclusively until the game is officially released, or when there comes a point where I feel like I would gain the most from activating it. If you felt like it was a good time for you to click that button then that was your decision.
PGI was already nice enough to give us 4 weeks of free premium time before they put in the Activate button, and now you want a refund because you used your premium time when you fully knew that it's still in beta form?
Sorry, your fault buddy! I feel bad for ya, but... in all fairness you were warned.

However, I would not mind a stat reset. Actually. I won't mind if stats were removed until it was released.

Edited by MoonUnitBeta, 21 January 2013 - 12:25 AM.

[Imperius]

KuruptU4Fun, on 21 January 2013 - 12:20 AM, said:

See, my friends and I (play 4 man groups a majority of the time) use communication and varying mech setups to combat ECM. Are we always effective? No, but then my group of friends is about 30 strong, not 4. So we as a group discuss quite often those wins and losses. When someone gets frustrated they may take a break, but with that many people there's often a group to join. Therefore the enjoyment outweighs the "disadvantages" you and others see as unplayable.

Well good to hear you have a lower standard when it comes to a "quality game"we don't. PGI claimed this would be a triple A title. Using beta as a shield to cover their bumpkin. Well I call foul play and hit my button before they released ECM.

MoonUnitBeta, on 21 January 2013 - 12:22 AM, said:

I definitely will not be impressed with PGI if they give refunds out to people like you who use your premium time, fully knowing it's in beta. What a terrible excuse. Not only that, it's really going to enrage the founders who were SAVING their premium time, knowing fully that once they activate it, then that's it.
I have been saving my premium time exclusively until the game is officially released, or when there comes a point where I feel like I would gain the most from activating it. If you felt like it was a good time for you to click that button then that was your decision.
PGI was already nice enough to give us 4 weeks of free premium time before they put in the Activate button, and now you want a refund because you used your premium time when you fully knew that it's still in beta form?
Sorry, your fault buddy! I feel bad for ya, but... in all fairness you were warned.

However, I would not mind a stat reset. Actually. I won't mind if stats were removed until it was released.

I wasn't here for that FYI.

[Lynette Steffeld]

Am I going to have to

Start a topic about Ravens

Maybe they should remove stats instead.

Much ado about nothing.