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[Penance]

Harmatia, on 20 January 2013 - 10:45 PM, said:

Although I do agree, we all did click on the "activate" button for premium time. So...

You maybe.

[Joseph Mallan]

Imperius, on 20 January 2013 - 10:49 PM, said:

So, nothing, they can't claim that the game is playable. I'd be fine if it went off how much time I actually played, but it counts down regardless of if I play or not and this game with its bugs and real bad balance is not playable.

Did you push the Activate Premium Button? Then you chose to use it now, not when the game was complete. wanting a refund fr your lack of forethought is sorta greedy.

[Wizard Steve]

Joseph Mallan, on 21 January 2013 - 10:27 AM, said:

Did you push the Activate Premium Button? Then you chose to use it now, not when the game was complete. wanting a refund fr your lack of forethought is sorta greedy stupid.

Fixed.

[Lord Rip]

Premium time had a button to activate it when you chose to. If you chose wrong tough *****.

Stats are meaningless anyway, so why reset them?

[Steven Dixon]

I didn't hit my activate button because the game was still in beta and the devs made this very clear in several posts. If the game was truly unplayable I could understand them giving some bonus premium time (although not a full refund of the time). However I can't see how you could really argue that the game is unplayable. I really don't see how ECM is all that gamebreaking, I don't have any difficulty killing an ECM mech. Sure an ECM mech with lagshield can be a bit difficult, but not even that much. Sometimes a group with ECM can sneak behind our lines and wreak havak and a coordinated team can use it to help negate or at least reduce LRMs but at least in pugs such coordination is rare. Ive even used missile boats quite successfully in pug matches.

We're all adults, we need to accept the world as it is and live with our choices. PGI didn't do a bait and switch or any other fraudulent activity, if you feel that they did you may want to consider your perception of the world.

[Joseph Mallan]

Wizard Steve, on 21 January 2013 - 10:29 AM, said:

Fixed.

I was being polite.

[PropagandaWar]

Imperius, on 20 January 2013 - 10:52 PM, said:

What is so asinine about my rational? They don't even attempt to balance crap but they will for sure take our money. Anytime someone has a problem they go well it is just a beta and scuff it off. Well I wouldn't have clicked my founders time if I knew they were going to add ECM and ignore how much it broke the game. Missiles were the only "sure fire" way to kill net code shielded lights. Sure I can lag shoot and waste half my ammo in a game that gives very little ammo makes sense.

You didnt have to give them a dime. You chose to. You apparently chose to hit the activate button as well. That's why it is irrational. PGI did not force you to do anything. I have plenty of friends who have yet to hit that button. I on the other hand have with no regrets. I killed several lights by the way with my hunchback only equipped with lasers and srms. Took out a commando zippin arround in my Dragon 5n this weekend with one arm blown off. Guess which one. Yep my laser one. So I took him out witha chain firing dual ac/5 and a 2. Also you need to remind yourself that every nerf they do has generally taken one to two months to apply. I applaud that. It lets me know they don't placate to the uber whiners.

[Mongoose Trueborn]

Imperius, on 20 January 2013 - 10:44 PM, said:

This is considered a beta and should be treated as such. So when you (PGI) claim this game is no longer BETA. You should reset and refund premium time wasted when the game unplayable by most.

Don't you mean that PGI should pay us all $20/hr for the time we have spent playing in beta? Should be a logical solution in your mind as well.

[Penance]

PropagandaWar, on 21 January 2013 - 10:36 AM, said:

I killed several lights by the way with my hunchback only equipped with lasers and srms.

You say this like the 4S is a bad mech.

2 SRM6's and 5ML's is bad right?

Edited by Penance, 21 January 2013 - 10:43 AM.

[Dishevel]

Imperius, on 20 January 2013 - 11:26 PM, said:

Thats why I said stats and premium time. The only things effected by lack of a stable balanced game. Not C-bills or experience. For god sake the fact we still play this neglected game they should be happy.

Either no reset or full reset.
You can not use premium time to gain more XP and C-Bills then reset the Premium time and not reset all you got with it.
I for one think that PGI needs to tells us that we either have a game or do not.
They can not go around in some parts and act like we are soft launched and other ways act like this is betaThey must pick one.

[PropagandaWar]

Penance, on 21 January 2013 - 10:41 AM, said:

You say this like the 4S is a bad mech.

the SP is a beautiful mech and my main one. I said it because this guy apparently seems to think only locking weapons kill lights.

[xZaOx]

Nay said the horse.

[Seravos]

BatWing, on 21 January 2013 - 10:24 AM, said:

In the past it made sense to play Mediums and i Mastered CN9s and HBK, spending a lot of time and CBs on a lot of configurations.. for what?

Nowadays mediums are dead.

I've done pretty well with the hunchbacks recently so I don't know where you're coming from, each chassis and build has a bit of its own style to learn.

[Penance]

PropagandaWar, on 21 January 2013 - 10:43 AM, said:

the SP is a beautiful mech and my main one. I said it because this guy apparently seems to think only locking weapons kill lights.

No, tracking weapons are not the only solution, but using anything else has it's issues.

For example, the other day I killed a spider using my Dragon 1C with a lucky shot from my AC10, most of the time, they miss, or if I do hit, don't see any damage register, even with energy weapons.

The problem isn't the weapons, although the person in question may believe that things like Streaks are the only thing to kill them with any reliability or hit and damage with any real consistency.

As for the laser issue, I have no issues with them, BUT, with the way the lag shield is...don't you find is a little ridiculous that you have to shoot at a place where visually the mech is no where near, but shoot there, and register a hit, all because you have have to mentally correct for the game?

I'm shooting at what I see as air, yet my target reticule, and opponents paper doll register hits.

Edited by Penance, 21 January 2013 - 10:50 AM.

[PropagandaWar]

Penance, on 21 January 2013 - 10:50 AM, said:

No, tracking weapons are not the only solution, but using anything else has it's issues.

For example, the other day I killed a spider using my Dragon 1C with a lucky shot from my AC10, most of the time, they miss, or if I do hit, don't see any damage register, even with energy weapons.

The problem isn't the weapons, although the person in question may believe that things like Streaks are the only thing to kill them with any reliability or hit and damage with any real consistency.

As for the laser issue, I have no issues with them, BUT, with the way the lag shield is...don't you find is a little ridiculous that you have to shoot at a place where visually the mech is no where near, but shoot there, and register a hit, all because you have have to mentally correct for the game?

I'm shooting at what I see as air, yet my target reticule, and opponents paper doll register hits.

Of course I find it ridiculous, but I know they are working on it.

[Kdogg788]

I am not going to read the mountains of posts above, but resetting stats and premium has nothing to do with game balance.

1. Stats are useless. They have no bearing on the game whatsoever. Matchmaking will eventually balance you so don't stress.
2. You had bonus premium time for free, and then a button to activate, yay! You asked for the button because you wanted to decide when to use it, and now that yours is all gone, you want it reset? Buy more MC for premium like the rest of us if you want to continue enjoying its benefits. I still have like 4 or 5 months left and have yet to click activate. Been having a lot of fun despite what people are complaining about.

-k

[Thorn Hallis]

Imperius, on 20 January 2013 - 10:44 PM, said:

You should reset and refund premium time wasted when the game unplayable by most.

I guess once the game is unplayable for most a reset might actually happen.

[Gallowglas]

Imperius, on 20 January 2013 - 10:44 PM, said:

the game unplayable by most.

Most people agree that you should avoid using hyperbole and anecdotes.

[Kdogg788]

The game isn't unplayable for anyone unless you're running a six year old PC with slideshow graphics. Let's not be dramatic.

-k

[Bishop Steiner]

Felix, on 21 January 2013 - 01:36 AM, said:

And this is why I was not stupid enough to start my premium time!

I am going to wait to see if they can pull this game out of the grave before I bother activating my time

my only question on the "wait and see" use of premium time... if you keep waiting, and keep seeing the game go a direction you don't like... what good does "saving" your Premium time do?

I totally get some folks plan to wait til community warfare to use it, and such, but so many of the wait and see crowd seem to be wait and see if the game tanks.. at which point you still will get no refund AND have unused premium time? Doesn't seem like sound logic to me (but hey, ain't my premium time, so ain't my decision), but it is also quite likely I am missing something form the equation?