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[Chronojam]

Viper69, on 29 January 2013 - 12:59 PM, said:

Will any change stop the pretentious people from labeling everyone? I swear some of you idiots arent happy unless you put a label on someone like "Pubbie or premade" Why dont you all collectively shut up and let the game play out without instigating things? Oh wait it wouldnt be in your nature to not poke people with sticks.

Viper69, on 29 January 2013 - 12:59 PM, said:

Will any change stop the pretentious people from labeling everyone?

Viper69, on 29 January 2013 - 12:59 PM, said:

pretentious people

Stop trying to label others.

[Karl Marlow]

Fate 6, on 29 January 2013 - 12:02 PM, said:

^
Time to put 2 PPCs on a Stalker, chain fire them, and absolutely wreck lights with 4 SSRMs/4ML.

Both of these changes still don't help missile boats. Unless you're putting multiple PPCs on them, in which case you aren't a missile boat anymore.

Um. Put on 1 tag. Costs far lesss tonnage. the heat savings are amazing, and it is FAR easier to hit a target wiht that little laser than trying to accuratly and repeatedly land a PPC blast..

Edited by ThomasMarik, 29 January 2013 - 01:01 PM.

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[Garth Erlam]

Let's keep the strawman 'oh yeah watch teh pubbiz whine' comments to a minimum.

And by minimum, I mean none.

And by none, I mean don't do it at all anymore. Let's talk about how we think these changes will affect the GAME, and what YOU will do to utilize these, without mentioning ANY other players.

Your test begins... now.

[Silent]

[Artgathan]

On the bright side, maybe we'll actually see some K2s with PPCs now.

I like the changes to the PPC actually (in all seriousness). I'll be strapping my ERPPC back onto my Cataphract in the coming weeks!

[Ngamok]

Bguk, on 29 January 2013 - 12:16 PM, said:

"All" Means everybody so you're wrong on that account. What these changes do is bring more diversity to the field with people mounting more PPCs. It will lessen over time once some realize that is not their weapon of choice. You seem to think this is a one on one game where no one else is around to help you kill the light. You and your friends hopefully have lasers/ballistics/missiles to hit the little buggers.

I agree with Grraarrgghh more and more. What's wrong with me?...........

Read what I said. I said the all the people that think the PPC will be magic. If you don't think the PPC will be magic, then you are not included against the 2 mechs I mentioned since they are the most prevalent.

[Ravn]

SSRMs aren't OP. The ECM+SSRM combo may be tho. A 3L, and to a lesser degree the 2D, effectively decimates any lights that enter the field without the same build which limits what lights used to be capable of accomplishing: scouting and relaying telemetry. All that needs to be done is take away the near perfect hit probability of SSRM to make light fights an actual fight again.

Edited by Ravn, 29 January 2013 - 01:09 PM.

[Kylere]

Grraarrgghh, on 29 January 2013 - 12:36 PM, said:

I don't mock them for being pubbies, that's their choice. I mock them for threatening PGI and running around with their hands in the air like agitated chickens every time there is a change they dislike.

Yeah, and you pretend to be better while whining about others. If I assumed all premades were as stupid as you are I would quit for lack of challenge.

[Ilwrath]

Artgathan, on 29 January 2013 - 01:04 PM, said:

On the bright side, maybe we'll actually see some K2s with PPCs now.

I like the changes to the PPC actually (in all seriousness). I'll be strapping my ERPPC back onto my Cataphract in the coming weeks!

The increase in PPC use will be a nice change for the LRM boaters. Tag was already good at breaking ECM and will be even better now that you get others on the team helping so you can actually get the Tag bonus on ECM users. Its very nice.

It was about time that PPC's got a buff. The speed helped but this will be great.

Now mark preamdes in-game and give us some more maps and this game is really taking a turn for the better.

[Grraarrgghh]

Kylere, on 29 January 2013 - 01:08 PM, said:

Yeah, and you pretend to be better while whining about others. If I assumed all premades were as stupid as you are I would quit for lack of challenge.

:frankfrank:

[Rannos]

Silent, on 29 January 2013 - 01:04 PM, said:

[Ilwrath]

Kylere, on 29 January 2013 - 01:08 PM, said:

Yeah, and you pretend to be better while whining about others. If I assumed all premades were as stupid as you are I would quit for lack of challenge.

I don't think the dev was joking so I would stop right now if I was you.

[ShadowSpirit]

A step in the right direction but I still strongly feel they need to get rid of the bubble. It doesn't belong in BattleTech. Angel ECM had major drawbacks.

... I understand this isn't a simulator but you broke the game when you started straying from the source. BattleTech has been played for decades ... it's pretty solid guys ... I wouldn't tinker too much. You already gave us C3 Master/Slaves without actually requiring it which led to the LRM issues in the first place.

Thanks.

Dave <HoS>

Edited by ShadowSpirit, 29 January 2013 - 01:18 PM.

[Dagger6T6]

so it sounds like there is a sweet spot where it might be possible for a non ECM mech to use streaks against a mech that has ECM? am I thinking correctly or is my brain fried from the long Tuesday at work? if so it seems like a tiny window but we will see how it plays out on drops.

[CG Oglethorpe Kerensky]

I see some PPC and Streak combination builds coming soon.
The netcode change has made hitting lights with PPCs easier, they will soon generate less heat to further their effectiveness. What you need is something agile with a PPC or two and a bunch of Streaks. Hit the ECM scout with your PPC to knock out his countermeasures then release your streaks to wreck him when he is vulnerable.

Didn't they just announce a mech that is pretty quick and packs energy and missiles???

[Chronojam]

Garth Erlam, on 29 January 2013 - 01:04 PM, said:

Let's keep the strawman 'oh yeah watch teh pubbiz whine' comments to a minimum.

And by minimum, I mean none.

And by none, I mean don't do it at all anymore. Let's talk about how we think these changes will affect the GAME, and what YOU will do to utilize these, without mentioning ANY other players.

Your test begins... now.

These changes are excellent. As a reasonable person, these changes will be reviewed in a rational manner and their impact will be tested and hypothetical situations will be examined. It is anticipated that, overall, the impact will be positive. This is because, like I said, I'm a reasonable person.

If I were an unreasonable person, I would probably begin generating threads to complain further about ECM instead of joining existing discussion. If I were an unreasonable person, I would begin to whine about the impact this would have, and perhaps declare ECM dead -- or declare the changes don't go far enough, possibly in the same thread.

[Grraarrgghh]

As a schizophrenic person, I think this plan doesn't go too far enough!

[Rannos]

Secret Intel from the Premade I infiltrated for the Pubbie Federation:

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More to come soon comrades!

Edited by Rannos, 29 January 2013 - 03:13 PM.