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A-1 Catapult Broken?


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Poll: A-1 Catapult broken? (826 member(s) have cast votes)

How do you feel about the 6xSRM6 A-1 Catapult?

  1. They are broken, please do something (79 votes [9.56%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 9.56%

  2. I can deal with them only because I'm an awesome pilot (67 votes [8.11%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 8.11%

  3. They are harder than the average opponent (198 votes [23.97%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 23.97%

  4. Voted Just like any other mech (385 votes [46.61%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 46.61%

  5. I pilot an A-1 and yeah... its superior (44 votes [5.33%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 5.33%

  6. Voted I pilot an A-1 and its easy to counter them (explanation at post) (53 votes [6.42%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 6.42%

What is what makes it superior?

  1. The 90 damage alpha (336 votes [27.10%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 27.10%

  2. Jump Jets (63 votes [5.08%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 5.08%

  3. Torso Twist Angle (280°) (206 votes [16.61%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 16.61%

  4. Speed (86 km/h) (140 votes [11.29%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 11.29%

  5. Durability (422 max armor) (77 votes [6.21%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 6.21%

  6. Voted Nothing,they are just in line with the other mechs (418 votes [33.71%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 33.71%

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#381 w0rm

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:26 AM

View PostSifright, on 05 February 2013 - 09:24 AM, said:

Tell me how that works when your against a team of A-1s who can each take a mech out in 5 seconds on their own.


An A1 cant take out every mech in 5 secons.

Edited by w0rm, 05 February 2013 - 09:26 AM.


#382 MaddMaxx

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:49 AM

Three things are required (for any Cheese build btw)

Identify
Verify
Nullify

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#383 Sifright

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:50 AM

View Postw0rm, on 05 February 2013 - 09:26 AM, said:


An A1 cant take out every mech in 5 secons.


.... Reading comprehension? failed much?

an A-1 can take out any mech in two salvos most in one.

a team of A-1s will slaughter a team of other mechs.

edit: notice my previous post said TEAM

Edited by Sifright, 05 February 2013 - 09:50 AM.


#384 Sinthrow

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:58 AM

I don't think there is a problem with the Mech. I think missles are a little out of balance. they could use some damage tweeks, move them a little closer to tt damages.

#385 Dimento Graven

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 10:02 AM

View PostSifright, on 05 February 2013 - 09:50 AM, said:


.... Reading comprehension? failed much?

an A-1 can take out any mech in two salvos most in one.

a team of A-1s will slaughter a team of other mechs.

edit: notice my previous post said TEAM

Ok, NOW we're having to worry about them if they're teamed?

So far I think I've recently seen one drop group that had 4 Cats (not all A1's) in it. Not sure of the 'mechs make up, they were on my team and of course you can't see your team mate's build outs, but that drop, if I remember correctly was a defeat. It was probably full of PUGs, no team communication, pretty much had 3 groups going in different directions (it was Forest Colony), some when towards cave, some to that E5/D5 area, and some to Clitoral Peak over on the far side of F5.

No focus'd fire and we lost, something like 8 vs. 3.

Anyway, if teams are coordinating their cheese builds, it's an obvious attempt at stat padding. The first coordinated team using proper long range fire tactics either using indirect fire LRM's or a group of snipers that A1 team is going to be hurting.

Anyway, again, this is much ado about nothing.

Edited by Dimento Graven, 05 February 2013 - 10:03 AM.


#386 w0rm

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 10:10 AM

View PostSifright, on 05 February 2013 - 09:50 AM, said:

an A-1 can take out any mech in two salvos most in one.


Nope. Unless they manage you get within 10m to put your alpha into a single section it's nearly impossible.
Lights and Mediums that let you get close that much are badly piloted and deserve their fate.
Heavys and Assaults will have killed at least one of your ears or your rediculous large cockpit until you get close.

View PostSifright, on 05 February 2013 - 09:50 AM, said:

a team of A-1s will slaughter a team of other mechs.


Yeah I guess that's why the 8 man queue is full of splatcats... oh wait there are none of them.
You wont even slaughter a decent 4 man premade with splatcats.

#387 Indoorsman

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 11:37 AM

View Postw0rm, on 05 February 2013 - 10:10 AM, said:

Yeah I guess that's why the 8 man queue is full of splatcats... oh wait there are none of them.
You wont even slaughter a decent 4 man premade with splatcats.

I imagine 5 splat cats + 3 raven3ls would be easy wins. Charge enemy base w/80kph heavies and raven 3ls to spot enemy. Enemy starts coming back to their base at best speed, you kill them in order of arrival and/or win by capping.

Edited by Indoorsman, 05 February 2013 - 11:37 AM.


#388 w0rm

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 11:50 AM

View PostIndoorsman, on 05 February 2013 - 11:37 AM, said:

I imagine 5 splat cats + 3 raven3ls would be easy wins. Charge enemy base w/80kph heavies and raven 3ls to spot enemy. Enemy starts coming back to their base at best speed, you kill them in order of arrival and/or win by capping.


That would work under one assumptions:
  • The hostile team doesn't send out scouts and waddles out blindly.


#389 Sifright

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 11:55 AM

View Postw0rm, on 05 February 2013 - 11:50 AM, said:


That would work under one assumptions:
  • The hostile team doesn't send out scouts and waddles out blindly.


Thats funny because the huge load of utter crap you were spewing earlier relied on the same presumptions.

Funny how that works.

#390 w0rm

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 11:58 AM

View PostSifright, on 05 February 2013 - 11:55 AM, said:

Thats funny because the huge load of utter crap you were spewing earlier relied on the same presumptions.

Funny how that works.


Your tears are delicious.

#391 LaserAngel

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 12:00 PM

View Postw0rm, on 05 February 2013 - 11:50 AM, said:


That would work under one assumptions:
  • The hostile team doesn't send out scouts and waddles out blindly.
Scouting again? My Catapult can spot at 900m. I already proved it wrong.

#392 Sifright

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 12:00 PM

View Postw0rm, on 05 February 2013 - 11:58 AM, said:


Your tears are delicious.


you are the one crying that people want your precious to be nerfed.

I pilot the A-1. It's too good.

It needs a nerf.

#393 AntiCitizenJuan

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 12:01 PM

View PostSifright, on 05 February 2013 - 12:00 PM, said:

you are the one crying that people want your precious to be nerfed.

I pilot the A-1. It's too good.

It needs a nerf.


He has a bad case of the "Dont Nerf Me Bro"'s

#394 MischiefSC

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 12:02 PM

AC20 cats are 10x more dangerous than missile cats. I stomp on A1s with an Atlas and a Jenner. In fact i just started piloting a jenner last night, it's still got the stock engine, 4mls and an SRM6 and before the game went down for maintenance I dropped in a game against a team that was mostly Catapults. SRM and LRM cats. 4 or 5 of them. I killed 3 of them myself, we rolled them 8-1.

Catapults can't aim their arms side to side. They suck at a circling unless you stay right in their sights. SRM cats have to either face-rush you or lead you by a good distance to SRM you. Circle at a wide range (the missiles will spread badly) or if you're in a light right up close and the'll never get a hit on you.

Shoot them in the leg, or ear. They have to aim right down the nose. Shoot the cockpit if you're packing lasers. It's the easiest to cockpit mech out there.

Glass cannon Gaussapults and face-humping 2xAC20 sniper cats are far, far more dangerous. Kill both with a very long stick or a quick knife in the back.

#395 w0rm

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 12:04 PM

View PostSifright, on 05 February 2013 - 12:00 PM, said:

you are the one crying that people want your precious to be nerfed.

I pilot the A-1. It's too good.

It needs a nerf.


Considering I pilot a Splatcat myself since CB I can assure you it is not the boogeyman you are trying to make it.

View PostAntiCitizenJuan, on 05 February 2013 - 12:01 PM, said:

He has a bad case of the "Dont Nerf Me Bro"'s


Says the guy who got 5 pages full of responses how to adapt, ignored it and came back to cry more.

Edited by w0rm, 05 February 2013 - 12:06 PM.


#396 Sifright

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 12:05 PM

View PostMischiefSC, on 05 February 2013 - 12:02 PM, said:

AC20 cats are 10x more dangerous than missile cats. I stomp on A1s with an Atlas and a Jenner. In fact i just started piloting a jenner last night, it's still got the stock engine, 4mls and an SRM6 and before the game went down for maintenance I dropped in a game against a team that was mostly Catapults. SRM and LRM cats. 4 or 5 of them. I killed 3 of them myself, we rolled them 8-1.

Catapults can't aim their arms side to side.


Why would they need to they can twist 280 degrees....

They suck at a circling unless you stay right in their sights. SRM cats have to either face-rush you or lead you by a good distance to SRM you. Circle at a wide range (the missiles will spread badly) or if you're in a light right up close and the'll never get a hit on you.

Catapults run at 90kph your point is invalid.

Shoot them in the leg, or ear. They have to aim right down the nose. Shoot the cockpit if you're packing lasers. It's the easiest to cockpit mech out there.

Glass cannon Gaussapults and face-humping 2xAC20 sniper cats are far, far more dangerous. Kill both with a very long stick or a quick knife in the back.


duuuuuuuuuude |:

Any mech is bad when it's used by tools.

#397 Indoorsman

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 12:06 PM

View Postw0rm, on 05 February 2013 - 12:04 PM, said:

View PostSifright, on 05 February 2013 - 12:00 PM, said:

you are the one crying that people want your precious to be nerfed.

I pilot the A-1. It's too good.

It needs a nerf.

Considering I pilot a Splatcat myself since CB I can assure you it is not the boogeyman you are trying to make it.

I have a Splatcat too, and can say it's imbalanced. Maybe not cause of the mech itself, maybe it's SRMs.

#398 Shumabot

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 12:07 PM

The only problem with the cata is the fact that the srm does 3 times the damage the ac20 does per tonne. That's it. It's a chassis that exploits the most overpowered weapon in the game (srm6) and the most functionally broken weapon in the game (streak srm).

That's it. that is the only problem with the a1. Everything in every poll option misses the mark by fifty miles.

#399 Sifright

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 12:07 PM

View Postw0rm, on 05 February 2013 - 12:04 PM, said:


Considering I pilot a Splatcat myself since CB I can assure you it is not the boogeyman you are trying to make it.


Funny, did you say something coherent?

All i can hear is "MYYYYYYYYY PRECIOUS"

I've been playing them since November it's disgustingly over powered. It becomes ever more so as the netcode is improved.

Edited by Sifright, 05 February 2013 - 12:09 PM.


#400 DaPwnageMachine

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 12:09 PM

Stop being noobs and shoot the ears off. It's not that hard.





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