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[Sifright]

SirSmokes, on 05 February 2013 - 05:30 AM, said:

.Your not getting any were near me with those missiles in one piece. Yea to noobs A1 is super deadly to good player it can be handled.

Dude unless the map is caustic valley you wont even see me until im behind you.

keep dreaming your fever dreams.

Karl Streiger, on 05 February 2013 - 05:32 AM, said:

well it's a kind of funny all this rage because of a FIRE SUPPORT Mech.

I believe SirSmokes... knows before the games start, were the A1 are, which route they will take and his guns are able to penetrate hills and rocks.

I know right!?

[ConnorSinclair]

GUYS THE CLANS ARE INVADING!

THEY'RE RANDOMLY SHOWING UP IN PUBS!

http://mwomercs.com/...-february-3050/

[The pessimistic optimist]

Sifright, on 05 February 2013 - 05:36 AM, said:

Dude unless the map is caustic valley you wont even see me until im behind you.

keep dreaming your fever dreams.



I know right!?

A1 is fine not OPed and you guy are silly.

[Drenzul]

Anyone saying shoot the ears off a catapult is either trolling or really stupid.

You can have cored through the center before you've taken the ears off, unless they haven't armoured the ears at all, which would be REALLY stupid on their part.

I pilot the cat and honestly its the sheer combination with no real limitation thats the problem and its the same with ALL cats not just the A1, the K2 and C4 are just as good, you just don't feel it as much where you aren't getting hit by all the fire-power at the same time.

It just needs a slight decrease in it's effectiveness to compensate for everything else it gets, along the lines of a 1 ton internal structure weight increase and it would be fine.

The difference between the cat and other mechs is very small, but it is noticeably more powerful (other than ECM capable mechs ofc)

[Sifright]

Drenzul, on 05 February 2013 - 05:42 AM, said:

Anyone saying shoot the ears off a catapult is either trolling or really stupid.
*snip

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[The pessimistic optimist]

Drenzul, on 05 February 2013 - 05:42 AM, said:

Anyone saying shoot the ears off a catapult is either trolling or really stupid.

You can have cored through the center before you've taken the ears off, unless they haven't armoured the ears at all, which would be REALLY stupid on their part.

I pilot the cat and honestly its the sheer combination with no real limitation thats the problem and its the same with ALL cats not just the A1, the K2 and C4 are just as good, you just don't feel it as much where you aren't getting hit by all the fire-power at the same time.

It just needs a slight decrease in it's effectiveness to compensate for everything else it gets, along the lines of a 1 ton internal structure weight increase and it would be fine.

The difference between the cat and other mechs is very small, but it is noticeably more powerful (other than ECM capable mechs ofc)

Ha Ha only A1pilot would tell me not to disarm him:P

[Sifright]

SirSmokes, on 05 February 2013 - 05:47 AM, said:

Ha Ha only A1pilot would tell me not to disarm him:P

You are such a cute pubbie player.

I should adopt you and put you in a zoo.

[ConnorSinclair]

Sifright, on 05 February 2013 - 05:22 AM, said:

In other news, no atlases have been cored in less than a second by A1s

and jenners would core atlases in UNDER 3 seconds if double heats were true dubs

CLAAAAAN INVASION!

http://mwomercs.com/...-february-3050/

Edited by ConnorSinclair, 05 February 2013 - 05:50 AM.

[The pessimistic optimist]

Sifright, on 05 February 2013 - 05:49 AM, said:

You are such a cute pubbie player.

I should adopt you and put you in a zoo.

You will die like the rest. Whats cute is people that think there good when they are not. A1 spec is powerful but has weaknesses you can take advantage of if you can't see that your not a very good player.

Edited by SirSmokes, 05 February 2013 - 05:53 AM.

[ConnorSinclair]

SirSmokes, on 05 February 2013 - 05:51 AM, said:

You will die like rest.

100 victories tonight,

CHALLENGE ACCEPTED

[Sifright]

SirSmokes, on 05 February 2013 - 05:51 AM, said:

You will die like the rest. Whats cute is people that think there good when they are not. A1 spec is powerful but has weaknesses you can take advantage of if you can't see that your not a very good player.

You understand good players make the 'weaknesses' of the A1 non-existent?

[Vassago Rain]

Sifright, on 05 February 2013 - 05:49 AM, said:

You are such a cute pubbie player.

I should adopt you and put you in a zoo.

He'll make for a terrible bondsman.

[The pessimistic optimist]

Sifright, on 05 February 2013 - 05:55 AM, said:

You understand good players make the 'weaknesses' of the A1 non-existent?

LOLs that called BS! Anyways I am done with this silly place.

Edited by SirSmokes, 05 February 2013 - 06:04 AM.

[Sifright]

SirSmokes, on 05 February 2013 - 06:01 AM, said:

LOLs that called BS! Anyways I am done with this silly place.

just like your magical awareness of the location of every A1 mech in the game and the ability to ALWAYS take them at range is bs.

FACT, All the maps except caustic have vast tracts of cover.

FACT Ranged mechs can't shoot through cover.

FACT ALmost all battles take place at 80m

FACT Catapults are the best brawlers.

FACT : You have no idea what you are talking about.

[Dimento Graven]

Sifright, on 04 February 2013 - 03:45 PM, said:

Dude, Normal LRMS have a min range. With ECM and without spotters that makes them kind of crappy.

Clan LRMS are going to rock your face off. No minimum range? check!
4 Slots instead of 5? CHECK
5 tons instead of 10? CHECK.
Wait whats that fido? I can drop engine size a bit and stick 4 of them in my A1 with 2 Clan lrm 10s?

So your telling me I can salvo 100 missiles a time!? and I can dumb fire them into mech at point blank?

So i can do 180 damage a salvo?

Yea that isn't going to be an unholy terror or anything.

Maybe once it's ACTUALLY IN GAME, I'll waste some time and effort QQ'ing about.

Until then, can we all just **** about it?

[Dimento Graven]

Anyway, not reading the new flood of posts on this, but I will say this:

I spent last night blowing away A1's, all night long. The moment I saw an A1, whether a cheese build Splatterpault™ or mix'n-match C1/C4 with SRM's, I came at you and I came at you hard.

It was funny because when I stopped pugging and starting doing drops with my merc group I had the people who were spectating me comment, "Dimento, you took his ears, and you took his leg, why leave him?"

My response: "There's an A1 thread where people who supposedly own these things are saying they are over powered. Right now, I don't think he's feeling all that overpowered, do you? Let some Spider or Commando finish him off..."

If you received this treatment last night, I'm not apologizing.

What was I killing these A1's with all night? Here's the list of what I piloted and what I scored A1 kills with:

Cat K2, AC/20x2, MLx2
Muromets, Gaussx2, MLx3
Raven 3L, SSRMx2, MLx2, TAG
Death's Knell (Smurf), MLx4
Atlas D-DC, SRM6x3, ERLLx2
Cataphract 4x, AC/5x4

I piloted a lot of other 'mechs, but those are the ones that I dropped in matches that had A1's and that I got A1 kills in.

The A1 is not 'broken', it's just easier for bad/average pilots to do better in, like the Raven 3L and Commando 2D before the netcode changes removed most of the lag shield issues.

Admittedly I died to A1's a few times. Mostly my mistakes, some got the drop on me (not my mistake, it just can happen no matter how carefull you are), some I think had some accidental help from overly exuberant PUG team mates trying to get the kill shot, not being carefull who was around them when spamming their Alpha button.

But the fact is, A1's are NOT unstoppable death machines.

Can we pick a REAL issue to be bitching about, like continued yellow screen issues, DC's, etc...

Edited by Dimento Graven, 05 February 2013 - 07:27 AM.

[Bad Alchemy]

Without reading all the posts my ten pence is:

* Weapons only in arms which are very easy to hit at range
* Build is short ranged
* Mech with missile doors means significant delay in firing
* If doors are open, then no armour on only weapon systems

Have a C4 with 4 SRM 6s and I dont like it at all. If it hits its a nice alpha, but the door thing spoils it for me. As long as it dosent sneak up on you, you have no excuse not to cut its firepower in half by taking an arm before it gets to you. This mech has draw backs; doors, heat management and arm size/position. Thats not to say its cheesy win sauce when it hits, but you could say the same about a Stalker.

[Sifright]

Bad Alchemy, on 05 February 2013 - 09:08 AM, said:

Without reading all the posts my ten pence is:

* Weapons only in arms which are very easy to hit at range
* Build is short ranged
* Mech with missile doors means significant delay in firing
* If doors are open, then no armour on only weapon systems

Have a C4 with 4 SRM 6s and I dont like it at all. If it hits its a nice alpha, but the door thing spoils it for me. As long as it dosent sneak up on you, you have no excuse not to cut its firepower in half by taking an arm before it gets to you. This mech has draw backs; doors, heat management and arm size/position. Thats not to say its cheesy win sauce when it hits, but you could say the same about a Stalker.

Opening the bay doors doesn't remove the armour.

The Catapult is fast and thus very easy to flank with.

All the maps have lots of cover meaning being engaged at long range only happens if you are lazy or stupid.

[w0rm]

Spot A1. Tell your buddies in TS. Focus fire for about 5 seconds. Move on to next target while laughing about the A1.

[Sifright]

w0rm, on 05 February 2013 - 09:23 AM, said:

Spot A1. Tell your buddies in TS. Focus fire for about 5 seconds. Move on to next target while laughing about the A1.

Tell me how that works when your against a team of A-1s who can each take a mech out in 5 seconds on their own.