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[Joseph Mallan]

ConnorSinclair, on 07 February 2013 - 04:27 AM, said:

Noticed some forum warriors on our last drop


Goose if you are reading this, I told you so x10000000000000

You owe me a BJ

You know those are girlie drinks right?

[Chrithu]

Joseph Mallan, on 07 February 2013 - 04:44 AM, said:

You know those are girlie drinks right?

Who said she wasn't a girl?


Edit: I just saw that lying around. Someone had to pick it up

Edited by Jason Parker, 07 February 2013 - 04:50 AM.

[Kung Poo]

A1 isnt the problem, it's you dropping in with 3 buddies with an A1 that makes it a problem.

[Sifright]

Abuse, on 07 February 2013 - 05:18 AM, said:

A1 isnt the problem, it's you dropping in with 3 buddies with an A1 that makes it a problem.

so what you are saying is the a1 is a better mech than others and gets worse when you drop with more of them?

bro tip buddy there were only 2 A1s in the match where i rolled your as$

[Kung Poo]

If you stay out side 300m and trim its ears its fine. This becomes more of a problem when theres 3 more charging you.

[ConnorSinclair]

Abuse, on 07 February 2013 - 05:18 AM, said:

A1 isnt the problem, it's you dropping in with 3 buddies with an A1 that makes it a problem.

L2P

Nearly Rolled Hotrod but we lost our team and the pubs went into the ******* river like idiots and forcing us to fight 8 at once.


50 wins 2 losses tonight


KONG ITS NOT BROKEN, ITS FINE.

[Sifright]

Abuse, on 07 February 2013 - 05:22 AM, said:

If you stay out side 300m and trim its ears its fine. This becomes more of a problem when theres 3 more charging you.

Yea, it's a shame you can't do that when I run faster than your ****** hunchback.

[Kung Poo]

Sifright, on 07 February 2013 - 05:24 AM, said:

Yea, it's a shame you can't do that when I run faster than your ****** hunchback.

Your right. It would prolly played out differently if I werent in my 4H which isnt speed tweaked or even good for close range combat with its setup. So yes.

[Sifright]

dude all your theory crafting is bupkiss, every game i've dropped today either me or the other a1 has had over 900 damage and murdered the other team.

Edited by Sifright, 07 February 2013 - 05:29 AM.

[Joseph Mallan]

Sifright, on 07 February 2013 - 05:24 AM, said:

Yea, it's a shame you can't do that when I run faster than your ****** hunchback.

900 damage in a SRMcat... You doing it wrong man

[Viper69]

Sounds like someone just recently got his but kicked by a couple.

I hope when we get bigger maps we will see less of posts like these, but probably not. People like this are the same who think electric fences are op.

[Sifright]

Joseph Mallan, on 07 February 2013 - 05:32 AM, said:

900 damage in a SRMcat... You doing it wrong man

I know it was a pretty bad game tbh.

Only 4 kills

[Rift Hawk]

Biggest problem with this mech has nothing to do with the mech at all. Its the lack of communication and ability for people to realize its dangerous. When I drop in a premade, Catapults are usually the first to go down if possible, especially the A-1. They aren't that big of a deal if you drop them quick with focus fire and don't rush into it. It doesn't work 100% of the time because after all, they have their own team but it generally works well.

However, dropping solo I tend to see everyone shooting different things and this is when I see A-1s and K-2s doing serious work.

[Sifright]

Imperial X, on 07 February 2013 - 05:49 AM, said:

Biggest problem with this mech has nothing to do with the mech at all. Its the lack of communication and ability for people to realize its dangerous. When I drop in a premade, Catapults are usually the first to go down if possible, especially the A-1. They aren't that big of a deal if you drop them quick with focus fire and don't rush into it. It doesn't work 100% of the time because after all, they have their own team but it generally works well.

However, dropping solo I tend to see everyone shooting different things and this is when I see A-1s and K-2s doing serious work.

GUIS I HEARD ONLY ONE TEAM CAN FOCUS FIRE.

[Joseph Mallan]

Sifright, on 07 February 2013 - 05:49 AM, said:

GUIS I HEARD ONLY ONE TEAM CAN FOCUS FIRE.

And we do it well too!

[Sifright]

Joseph Mallan, on 07 February 2013 - 05:52 AM, said:

And we do it well too!

I always wonder why when people theory craft their solutions it's always against an ***** that struggles to breath and that the skill situation on both teams is asymmetrical.

In reality the 'weaknesses' of the catapult don't exist because the maps allow a half way decent pilot to use cover to avoid all of the downsides.

[ConnorSinclair]

http://youtu.be/WUeBKC-1oaY

[Sifright]

ConnorSinclair, on 07 February 2013 - 01:48 PM, said:

http://youtu.be/WUeBKC-1oaY

hahahaha, that clip is great.

It's what I imagine every game i drop as an a1 and people actually try it.

The funny thing is all the games i drop I warn the other team I'm using an A1 and that Im abusing because i want it to get nerfed.

I still rock the other team to pieces. It's so sad.

[Rift Hawk]

Sifright, on 07 February 2013 - 05:58 AM, said:

I always wonder why when people theory craft their solutions it's always against an ***** that struggles to breath and that the skill situation on both teams is asymmetrical.

In reality the 'weaknesses' of the catapult don't exist because the maps allow a half way decent pilot to use cover to avoid all of the downsides.

First, It isn't a theory crafted solution. It works. Focus fire works on just about any mech. No Catapult is going to take out 4 mechs by itself if those players are focus firing on it and are decent players.

Second, the skill situation in this game is asymmetrical. Most battles turn out to be landslide victories with one team losing few to no mechs. You even posted a picture farther up in this thread that shows that exact turnout. It doesn't happen every time but it happens enough where you cannot say there is balance.

Finally, You do have a good point in stating that a half decent pilot can make use of the map to avoid most or all downsides to this particular mech or any mech for that matter. That is the difference between people who know how to play and people who don't.

[Sifright]

Imperial X, on 07 February 2013 - 01:55 PM, said:

First, It isn't a theory crafted solution. It works. Focus fire works on just about any mech. No Catapult is going to take out 4 mechs by itself if those players are focus firing on it and are decent players.

Second, the skill situation in this game is asymmetrical. Most battles turn out to be landslide victories with one team losing few to no mechs. You even posted a picture farther up in this thread that shows that exact turnout. It doesn't happen every time but it happens enough where you cannot say there is balance.

Finally, You do have a good point in stating that a half decent pilot can make use of the map to avoid most or all downsides to this particular mech or any mech for that matter. That is the difference between people who know how to play and people who don't.

The point is that even semi-competent usage of the catapult A1 turns into a death machine. When a catapult A1 catches two assault mechs off guard at close range he shouldn't be able to kill both mechs with ease.

The A1 can do so with little difficulty.

That is why the A1 is over powered.

The maps favour this outcome occurring because of the masses of cover.

I can accept that the A1 should kill an assault mech it gets the jump on in a one on one, but taking on two assault mechs at the same time even with the element of surprise should not be a a guarantee of two dead mechs like it is currently.

talking about a team focus firing the A1 down doesn't logically make sense, in that you are right this will kill the mech faster. It will also kill every other mech just as fast. Nothing is stopping multiple A1s from working together.

me and some guys I know have tried just that. There is nothing the other team can do when you have three A1s working together with an ECM mech to cover their one real weakness.

it is literally to the point where the only mechs on the field left that worry me are AC/20 cats or other A1s

Edited by Sifright, 07 February 2013 - 02:03 PM.