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#81 Ilwrath

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 09:30 AM

View PostErata, on 04 February 2013 - 09:23 AM, said:

I'm not sure what making groups visible is supposed to do except reinforce your persecution complex.


It would get rid of all matchmaking speculations... And prove that I was right. This is important.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 09:31 AM

View PostRussianWolf, on 04 February 2013 - 09:18 AM, said:

So you disrespect everyone you meet until they earn your respect? must be a lonely life.


A lot of his posts fit that mentality.

View PostIlwrath, on 04 February 2013 - 09:30 AM, said:


It would get rid of all matchmaking speculations... And prove that I was right. This is important.


Most premade players don't want proof either way.

Why would you possibly be against something this basic?

#83 Dr Warp Effect

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 09:32 AM

WoT displays platoon membership during the match including the initial countdown. Platoons there are capped at only 2 or 3 of the 15 in match (although there are allowed any number of platoons). The system works there extremely well and I see no problem using it here.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 09:34 AM

View PostRussianWolf, on 04 February 2013 - 09:18 AM, said:

So you disrespect everyone you meet until they earn your respect? must be a lonely life.

I neither respect or disrespect you till you show me your intent. how you act will influence how I treat you.

View PostGreyfyl, on 04 February 2013 - 09:29 AM, said:


Why in the after action report I wonder?

So the farmers will be less likely to Alt+F4. PLUS when I PUG it will make me a little happier finding out if I killed 3 Premades over 3 PUGs.

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 04 February 2013 - 09:39 AM.


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Posted 04 February 2013 - 09:35 AM

View PostGreyfyl, on 04 February 2013 - 09:31 AM, said:

Most premade players don't want proof either way.

Why would you possibly be against something this basic?


They all know that is something is broken. Some of them would like it to continue as it is. It will be hard to argue against changes to the matchmaker when players simply can take a screen shot of it and prove it.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 09:35 AM

View PostGreyfyl, on 04 February 2013 - 09:31 AM, said:


A lot of his posts fit that mentality.



Most premade players don't want proof either way.

Why would you possibly be against something this basic?


I've said repeatedly it needs to be on after the game.

Of course I've seem four man's announce and my side was still spread over 5 grids, no chance to even fight it out, just fall one by one.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 09:35 AM

View PostGreyfyl, on 04 February 2013 - 09:31 AM, said:

Why would you possibly be against something this basic?

View PostJoseph Mallan, on 04 February 2013 - 09:34 AM, said:

So the farmers will be less likely to Alt+F4.


I hate reading as well.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 09:36 AM

View PostJoseph Mallan, on 04 February 2013 - 09:34 AM, said:

So the farmers will be less likely to Alt+F4.


But,, but the farmers are on the other team, premaded up. Why would they Alt+F4? Fear of the pure pub team?

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 09:39 AM

View PostIlwrath, on 04 February 2013 - 09:30 AM, said:


It would get rid of all matchmaking speculations... And prove that I was right. This is important.


That's fine! I'm all for it even though through normal gameplay, you start recognizing names. I'm all for ranked brackets and ELO as well.
I'm more for implementing in-game voice FIRST so that lone wolves at least have a realistic chance of doing the same kind of real time strategizing that groups engage in during a fight

That is, short of having a lobby system where you can pre-game with other people and select loadouts, the only advantage that groups have. Communication. Cooperation.

The devs want to, down the line, implement a Solaris style free for all for people that just can't play nice with with their fellow robot jock.
Just don't complain when people start teaming up in the arena. It's lore-friendly that they're cheating.

Edited by Erata, 04 February 2013 - 09:40 AM.


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Posted 04 February 2013 - 09:40 AM

View PostDr Warp Effect, on 04 February 2013 - 09:32 AM, said:

WoT displays platoon membership during the match including the initial countdown. Platoons there are capped at only 2 or 3 of the 15 in match (although there are allowed any number of platoons). The system works there extremely well and I see no problem using it here.

It doesn't work. Never has, never will. Just encourages Rambo tanks. Yes, I know you'll come back with "Yes it does work, look at berpy-derpy-derp," but it doesn't. It just discourages team-based play in a tesm-based game in favor of appealing to solo players who pay money for premium time.

There is a reason I'm playing this and not WoT (Ok, 2 reasons, 1 obviously being giant robots).

#91 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 09:42 AM

View PostIlwrath, on 04 February 2013 - 09:36 AM, said:


But,, but the farmers are on the other team, premaded up. Why would they Alt+F4? Fear of the pure pub team?

^_^
Alt+F4 happens more by PUGs than Premades (At the beginning of a match). But later in the game that seems to switch, probably due to wanting superior Win/Loss I will assume. Nothing worse than a player (PUG or Premade) quitting cause they are about to die! :)

#92 CG Oglethorpe Kerensky

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 09:43 AM

It is your fault for not teaming up.

#93 Svetaryan

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 09:44 AM

I support proposition.
Disconnect = no reward at all.
Is it OBT? Oh yea... so we can try it ^_^
If you don't need something today so mb you will need it tomorrow :)

Edited by Svetaryan, 04 February 2013 - 09:44 AM.


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Posted 04 February 2013 - 09:44 AM

View PostBguk, on 04 February 2013 - 09:35 AM, said:


I hate reading as well.


So you are assuming that people will alt-f4 out when they see premades? I should have known you would have some reason against it.

Maybe it will do just the opposite and make them try harder and pay better attention to the match. Should we keep playing the maybe game?

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 09:46 AM

View PostGreyfyl, on 04 February 2013 - 09:44 AM, said:


So you are assuming that people will alt-f4 out when they see premades? I should have known you would have some reason against it.

Maybe it will do just the opposite and make them try harder and pay better attention to the match. Should we keep playing the maybe game?


Yeah try it, announce you are a four man and watch people drop.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 09:46 AM

View PostJoseph Mallan, on 04 February 2013 - 09:42 AM, said:

^_^
Alt+F4 happens more by PUGs than Premades (At the beginning of a match). But later in the game that seems to switch, probably due to wanting superior Win/Loss I will assume. Nothing worse than a player (PUG or Premade) quitting cause they are about to die! :)


Wow! Can we see some numbers on this? I'm sure you have proof right?

#97 RussianWolf

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 09:47 AM

View Postzraven7, on 04 February 2013 - 08:36 AM, said:



You're kinda awesome, you know that?

Well, I only have one Awesome and I haven't piloted it for a while......... OHHHH!!! you mean I'm a smartalec. Yep. Got a degree and everything, ^_^

#98 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 09:47 AM

View PostGreyfyl, on 04 February 2013 - 09:29 AM, said:


Why in the after action report I wonder?

View PostBguk, on 04 February 2013 - 09:35 AM, said:


I hate reading as well.

Well then Bguk you should have posted the Question I replied to By Greyfyl. I answered the question grey posted to My original post. What he says to someone else's posts is more between them. ^_^

#99 Greyfyl

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 09:48 AM

View PostYokaiko, on 04 February 2013 - 09:46 AM, said:

Yeah try it, announce you are a four man and watch people drop.



I've never seen a single person drop from an announced 4 or 8 man premade on the other side. Never.

I'm sure you are going to tell me now how rampant this is right?

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 09:48 AM

I see a lot of sore losers disconnect before getting killed.
No Chonour.





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