430 replies to this topic

[Alexandrix]

The poll isn't robust enough,so I'll just say this.

The new system sounds great.The prices are still atrocious.Seriously,lower the ridiculous prices and you will make more money because people will feel less like they are getting ripped off,and more people will buy,and even thank you for it.The concept isn't that hard to comprehend.

MGoo, on 05 February 2013 - 01:01 PM, said:

um, PC gamer black is now Navy blue?

and black is 1000MC?

**** paint then I wont bother

Wtf? the shiny PC Gamer black,is a garbage navy blue now? honestly? mf'er this was the only black in the game that I actually liked.that's sleezy pgi,straight up sleezy.*if it's true*

Edited by Alexandrix, 05 February 2013 - 01:19 PM.

[Ferret Thorn]

OUCH! OK maybe I should have paid a bit more attention but it never said you had to pay for the colors with the pattern on the phranken! Unfortunately I assumed that since you had to spend more for the special custom that it came with it like that and not unlocked the paint for all mechs.. 125 for a one time use for it as opposed to the 75 one time use on camo. Deffinately needs a disclaimer that you are only buying the pattern not the paint included nor should it automatically change your paints to it if they don't come with it.

I deffinately want my 3k MC back on that!

[Sable Dove]

As one who doesn't usually spend money on cosmetic things, I'm a little disappointed. So what's available to someone who doesn't spend real money? Five colours, default pattern, and they're all pretty ridiculously expensive.

The prices might seem fair if everything were available for MC or cbills, but there's basically nothing worth having that you can buy with cbills, and everything that requires MC is hideously overpriced. The cheapest individual colours are 4$ (assuming the best deal you can get with MC, even), while more expensive colours cost 6 or 8 dollars each.

It's especially unappealing considering you can buy mech bays for much cheaper, and since we are getting screwed on the mech bay front already, that seems like a much better place to put any real money you do spend.

Do you guys all work at movie theatres? You sure like to gouge like one.

[Witch Killer]

Archtype, on 05 February 2013 - 01:15 PM, said:

Tabletop extortion continues. Not even a ROYGIBV c-bill only paint set. Cool colors like metalics would have been nice to see…

PGI I understand that this is a premium free to play, you need to make money.

That said, why do you insist on charging GW prices for intangible items? To unlock a phranken pattern for the atlas, 4250MC ($16.99-$19.58 depending on mc package purchase) that is enough to buy paint for 30 models, let alone unlock access to a mass produced texture map.

As a miniature painter and a tabletop player I have known many other players who have chosen the route of a professional painter, sometimes paying $5-20 a miniature. The end result though is a possession and a keepsake when you give up finding time and space for tabletops.

The markup is ridiculous and I only hope other consumers speak with their wallets and abstain from paint purchases. This is beta, this is tunable, but the funds you are collecting are real and non- refundable.
PGI please put value in these purchases by lowering their price. You know more will sell, examine steam’s business model closely. Get people interested in this game because it is a quality value with incredible and unique gameplay. Stop insulting the community and myself because you now hold the rights to something we adore.

To the community; these are optional, they will not inspire terror in me. If you are a foe I will still stick you with 10 srm’s at 130 from my centurion, you will still kill me just as eagerly because I am only in free colors. Encourage PGI to make paints accessible by abstaining from purchase, stop tabletop extortion.

I'm never giving another penny. I purchased MC to get some cool paint going, and they just came and took it away from me. F@#K PGI. I'll play the game, but I'm never making an MC buy.

[ASHRID]

I'd probably have swallowed the price increase of Phranken from 750 to 1250 as it's now across all variants......

.....only it isn't 1250, it's 4250 because it wants to charge for the colours as well!

Crazy crazy pricing, not buying

[CMDR Sunset Shimmer]

Alright, so Camo "PATTERNS" are unlocked per-chassis... but paints are unlocked for everything.

Pricing's a 'bit' on the high side, especially given the amount of colors we now have, I think that pricing could do with about a 25% reduction in overall price[since there's much more available] but for the most part, this system is spot on.

[Throat Punch]

BTW is spelled Color, us center of the world 'murican's don't abide by your "u's" being dropped randomly into words.












(Just thought i'd add some levity, but yeah, i still think the pricing sucks and that i wasn't refunded enough MC)

[von Pilsner]

I find it distasteful that a retailer (PGI) can forcefully refund your purchase (after you bought stuff) and then raise the price.

Would be illegal for a real retailer to do this, I suppose with digital currency they feel they can pull '**** moves' like this.

[Draxos Synge]

Okay my PC Gamer skin now has a pinky fleshtone instead of the gunmetal grey it came with. REALLY??? Fix that because now my hunchback looks like his bareass is showing....

[CheebaMech]

I have not read through all the previous posts. I am voting a negative on this one, here's why: The customized Phranken paints that I had on most of my mechs now cost more to replace than what was refunded for painting them that way. It appears that I was refunded approximately 4k MC. I had at least 4 mechs with custom colors on each sporting a different 'version' of the Phranken paint job. It looks like it will cost around 4k to repaint ONE mech back to the way I had it. Every other mech had at least custom colors/patterns. WTF, PGI? This borders on fraud/larceny IMO. The way to avoid this would have been to NOT reset the skins but to add a reset button to make it voluntary. I hate to make a rant post, but this sucks.
Also, what about MC spent for camo on sold mechs?

[ArmsLikeNoodles]

I am not one for spending money and with the latest changes I am even considering getting some cammo for my favourite mech chassies, it's a shame about the price even under a discount that's a little steep for me. but considering it has got me thinking about buying cammo is a big improvement that should not be overlooked. compared to the previous system where I didn't even entertain buying cammo.

Well done PGI.

[Cato Phoenix]

This is great, especially for units with color schemes- I would rather pay 1000 MC for a paint for all my mechs than 250 each time (and have to pay again if I want to change).

Will definitely be buying some now.

[ArmsLikeNoodles]

I am not one for spending money and with the latest changes I am even considering getting some cammo for my favorite mech chassies, it's a shame about the price even under a discount that's a little steep for me. but considering it has got me thinking about buying cammo is a big improvement that should not be overlooked. compared to the previous system where I didn't even entertain buying cammo.

Well done PGI.

[von Pilsner]

CheebaMech, on 05 February 2013 - 01:42 PM, said:

I have not read through all the previous posts. I am voting a negative on this one, here's why: The customized Phranken paints that I had on most of my mechs now cost more to replace than what was refunded for painting them that way. It appears that I was refunded approximately 4k MC. I had at least 4 mechs with custom colors on each sporting a different 'version' of the Phranken paint job. It looks like it will cost around 4k to repaint ONE mech back to the way I had it. Every other mech had at least custom colors/patterns. WTF, PGI? This borders on fraud/larceny IMO. The way to avoid this would have been to NOT reset the skins but to add a reset button to make it voluntary. I hate to make a rant post, but this sucks.
Also, what about MC spent for camo on sold mechs?

This just in...



Piranha games reverses in-game transactions and raises prices!
Feb-5-2013

Game developer Piranha games allows players to pay real money to purchase in-game MC (with a tiered pricing model), MC is then used to purchase items in-game. They have recently refunded MC used to purchase things in-game (even if you purchased months ago) and then raised the prices. Some users are not able to re-purchase the same items using their refunded MC as the prices have been raised.

Actual money has not been refunded so affected players may not be able to re-purchase the items without sending PGI more money.

Since the MC pricing is tiered it seems some players made a mistake sending PGI money as they do not have enough MC to re-purchase the item(s) that they originally spent real money (to purchase MC) to buy.

It remains to be seen if this move will be seen as a positive or negative by the community in general.

[Finghaz]

I believe the way the change was implemented was incredibly shonky.

I didn't want a refund, I wanted to keep the paint job.

So why as an act of good faith didn't PGI let people keep their original paint and treat it as single use?

[Deimos Raygun Lazar]

Sorry,

but the pricing is pretty absurd, this is the best way to loose PAYING customers.

Whoever came up with these prices shouldbe sacked. I will not pay close to 10 euros or more just for a f*cking paint scheme.

[whiteboy007]

I voted Neutral because the colors and patterns being unlocked for all variants of that particular mech is nice. However, if I want to do Phranken again for my Cataphract's its 4,250 MC. That's over $20 for all five variants. Now, if I choose to do just my 2X it's 3,125, or just about $16. Not much of a difference.

My problem with that second part is it's single use and I still have to pay 1,000 MC for each color that makes up the Phranken colors. In my opinion colors are not in line with what they should be. Vanity items, period. Make the colors cheaper so I don't feel like I'm spending a ton of money on a freakin' color.

This kind of stuff should nickel and dime you into poverty like a clever salesman. Not beat you up and take your wallet like a street thug.

[CheebaMech]

von Pilsner, on 05 February 2013 - 01:44 PM, said:

This just in...



Piranha games reverses in-game transactions and raises prices!
Feb-5-2013

Game developer Piranha games allows players to pay real money to purchase in-game MC (with a tiered pricing model), MC is then used to purchase items in-game. They have recently refunded MC used to purchase things in-game (even if you purchased months ago) and then raised the prices. Some users are not able to re-purchase the same items using their refunded MC as the prices have been raised.

Actual money has not been refunded so affected players may not be able to re-purchase the items without sending PGI more money.

Since the MC pricing is tiered it seems some players made a mistake sending PGI money as they do not have enough MC to re-purchase the item(s) that they originally spent real money (to purchase MC) to buy.

It remains to be seen if this move will be seen as a positive or negative by the community in general.

Thanks, from beer.
Edit: what this guy says "[color=#959595]This kind of stuff should nickel and dime you into poverty like a clever salesman. Not beat you up and take your wallet like a street thug."[/color]

Edited by CheebaMech, 05 February 2013 - 01:50 PM.

[von Pilsner]

Finghaz, on 05 February 2013 - 01:45 PM, said:

I believe the way the change was implemented was incredibly shonky.

I didn't want a refund, I wanted to keep the paint job.

So why as an act of good faith didn't PGI let people keep their original paint and treat it as single use?

Imagine if Adobe decided to give users credit (not a cash refund) for current owners of Photoshop.
They then deactivate everyones' license key.
Finally they raise the price of Photoshop so everyone must pay more money to re-purchase the same version that they used to own (remember it was not a refund, it was a credit).

Feels bad....

[Witch Killer]

von Pilsner, on 05 February 2013 - 01:50 PM, said:

Imagine if Adobe decided to give users credit (not a cash refund) for current owners of Photoshop.
They then deactivate everyones' license key.
Finally they raise the price of Photoshop so everyone must pay more money to re-purchase the same version that they used to own (remember it was not a refund, it was a credit).

Feels bad....

Yeah seriously man. This is f'ing unethical. PGI is run by some sleazy dirtbags. This is filthy.