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[yngvef]

Also, methinks Rarity has gotten into the beta:

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[Sesambrot]

Jace Nevada, on 05 July 2012 - 12:00 PM, said:

I'm glad we're mostly on the same page here, at least. There have, however, been PG-rated shipping images posted here which as far as I'm concerned is still crossing the line of altering the main cast to force them into a story, as is discussing the sexuality of characters that, as far as the canon is concerned, may as well have none at all (if there's ever an episode about RD being a lesbian, I'll concede the argument, but until that day...). I don't remember where it was now, but somewhere earlier in the thread someone linked to a tumblr containing some serious r34 stuff. It may have even been deleted now but stuff like that shouldn't be getting posted in the first place.

Well, the only shipping material I can remember being posted here, is the pic of flutterhsy and big mac in a boat in Smaritans post, and that one is suggestive at most. My point is, that picture itself doesn't tell a story, and I find it kinda cute tbh, the story to the picture originates in your own mind, so it's hardly anyone else's fault.
About RD, as I said before, there are apparently scenes/stories in the show, that may be interpreted as hints into that direction, and simply dismissing them due to "it being a kids-show" is a no-go when objectively analyzing something, so it is valid to be brought up in a discussion.
The point about this discussion in particular is that I don't believe either of us came up with that idea originally, but that it has existed for quite a while, because this interpretation is indeed plausible. However, there are other ways to "prove otherwise" than simply saying, "it's for kids, in fact it's not possible", which is what the whole discussion was about.

About that r34 stuff you are talking about, I must have missed that, because I've been following this topic for quite a while (as of page 13). You're actually right, something like this doesn't belong here in the first place, but so far it happened only once, and even that has kinda vanished, so no point getting upset about it.

[CMDR Sunset Shimmer]

I'm sorry jace, I just can't agree where when "Griffon the brush off" Was basically Dashes girlfriend coming to visit and them having a fight... That is the ONLY way I can see that episode as I've had friends who were involved that have been though pretty much the exact same thing. So I'm not only drawing from what I have seen, but personal experience also.



I choose to see them as a couple due to how they interact... how they seem around one another. I am sorry you do not see it in the same way, but I WILL respect that you do not, so if to you these are just two friends sharing a hug, that's awesome, but to me, they are a couple. And a cute one at that.

And if Shipping is paramount to R34 for you, I'd abandon the internet at the nearest possible exit.

[Sesambrot]

Jade Kitsune, on 05 July 2012 - 12:52 PM, said:

I'm sorry jace, I just can't agree where when "Griffon the brush off" Was basically Dashes girlfriend coming to visit and them having a fight... That is the ONLY way I can see that episode as I've had friends who were involved that have been though pretty much the exact same thing. So I'm not only drawing from what I have seen, but personal experience also.

I choose to see them as a couple due to how they interact... how they seem around one another. I am sorry you do not see it in the same way, but I WILL respect that you do not, so if to you these are just two friends sharing a hug, that's awesome, but to me, they are a couple. And a cute one at that.

And if Shipping is paramount to R34 for you, I'd abandon the internet at the nearest possible exit.

Now, that's what I'm talking about! ^^
Even interpretations and analyzations are influenced by you personal oppinions and experiences.
That said, it all depends on the way you want to look at it...
Glad we can agree on that!

Sry, I'm still overly enthusiastic about not being forced to agree to one specific point of view!


On a side note;
You say one can "quit" the internet?!?
Heresy!

Rather than of abandoning the internet,
have some pinkie pie instead!

[Sikreci]

Sesambrot, on 05 July 2012 - 01:09 PM, said:

Rather than of abandoning the internet,
have some pinkie pie instead!

This thread is now the Pinkie Pie Picture Posting Party. So shall it be written, so shall it be done.

[Samaritan]

Hon. Mechwarriors;

I would like to quote Seasambrot.

"Well, the only shipping material I can remember being posted here, is the pic of flutterhsy and big mac in a boat in Smaritans post, and that one is suggestive at most. My point is, that picture itself doesn't tell a story, and I find it kinda cute tbh, the story to the picture originates in your own mind, so it's hardly anyone else's fault."


Uhg... Sporkosophy has posted some dark stuff and gets a pass, but I get taged for shipping with a post containing pictures of shipping, Wow. Well I guess this is a minefield of a topic, so I guess I will drop it untlill Equestria Daily vetes my MLP Battletech crossover "A Thousand and One Equestrian Knights" Knowing my luck the only thing it will be remembered for is the Leopard Clopship Harmony A.U. 197.



This is still very much a work in progress, but there are not many Ponytech crossover picks out there dipicting the Harmony Gold, So I am working on a kitbash.

Respectfully

Samaritan

Pony Script: Is it just me or does it seem like people go crazy skittish around the subject of sex?

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Samaritan, on 05 July 2012 - 01:24 PM, said:

Pony Script: Is it just me or does it seem like people go crazy skittish around the subject of sex?

That's because, despite everyone having sex all the time, it's eeeeevil!!!

Edited by Sesambrot, 05 July 2012 - 01:29 PM.

[Sikreci]

Oh, seems I missed a post earlier that I should reply to.

Jade Kitsune, on 05 July 2012 - 12:52 PM, said:

I'm sorry jace, I just can't agree where when "Griffon the brush off" Was basically Dashes girlfriend coming to visit and them having a fight... That is the ONLY way I can see that episode as I've had friends who were involved that have been though pretty much the exact same thing. So I'm not only drawing from what I have seen, but personal experience also.

In the show they're portrayed as just old friends and nothing more. Anything beyond that simply doesn't exist in the canon and is merely subjective interpretation/fan fiction. Drawing from my own personal experience as a bi dude, it's possible to have other guys that are extremely close friends without there ever being a sexual relationship.

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And if Shipping is paramount to R34 for you, I'd abandon the internet at the nearest possible exit.

It's varying degrees of the same thing.

Edit for more Pinkie Pie.

Edited by Jace Nevada, 05 July 2012 - 01:36 PM.

[CMDR Sunset Shimmer]

EVERYPONY JUST SPIN SPIN SPIN!!!! WHOOO


Y..yay!~

[Sesambrot]

Jace Nevada, on 05 July 2012 - 01:29 PM, said:

It's varying degrees of the same thing.

Now, that's like comparing a love story to hardcore-p***...

btw, with the pics you post, one could start to think you were trying to make up for spork not being here atm...

Edited by Sesambrot, 05 July 2012 - 02:00 PM.

[SNobleJr]

Jace Nevada, on 05 July 2012 - 01:29 PM, said:

In the show they're portrayed as just old friends and nothing more. Anything beyond that simply doesn't exist in the canon and is merely subjective interpretation/fan fiction.

Just because the show doesn't explicitly point out something, doesn't mean it's not there. To stay on the topic of shipping/sex, we obviously didn't see the Cakes in the bedroom, yet Pound and Pumpkin had to come from somewhere (and before you ask, Faust herself confirmed that this stuff happens through "old-fashioned mammalian reproduction" in Equestria). Physical intimacy does exist in the show's world, even if it's not shown on-screen to keep it family friendly.

About the Gilda/Dash example, I'd say that while it's admittedly an uncertain situation, "ex-girlfriend" is not an implausible interpretation.

Jace Nevada, on 05 July 2012 - 01:29 PM, said:

It's varying degrees of the same thing.

Don't you think that's overly generalizing? You'd consider a simple romantic story the same fundamental kind of "wrong" (to be honest, I don't even get all this prudishness about sex in the first place, but let's not get into that) as all-out p***, just not quite to the same extent?

On a similar note, it seemed to me like you were tossing out some rather stereotyping blanket statements about fanfiction in general, and how they all derail the characters from the canon etc. Isn't it unfair to indiscriminately paint all fanfics with this brush rather than acknowledging that, like every other medium, they're subject to Sturgeon's Law and range from horrible to excellent? (If that wasn't what you meant, just disregard this.)

Edited by SNobleJr, 05 July 2012 - 02:07 PM.

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Sesambrot, on 05 July 2012 - 01:58 PM, said:

btw, with the pics you post, one could start to think you were trying to make up for spork not being here atm...

I haven't been paying attention to names in this thread, so I have no idea what that means. I just like some of the funny non-r34/shipping/gore/whatever fan art that's out there.

And I also like Pinkie. Pink pony best pony.

[Proxus571]

Jace Nevada, on 05 July 2012 - 01:29 PM, said:

It's varying degrees of the same thing.

Surely you can't be serious?

[Sikreci]

SNobleJr, on 05 July 2012 - 02:06 PM, said:

About the Gilda/Dash example, I'd say that while it's admittedly an uncertain situation, "ex-girlfriend" is not an implausible interpretation.

Plausible maybe, if you consider gay stereotypes to be evidence. Otherwise, the burden of proof lies with the people claiming that's what's going on, and there isn't any evidence for it in the show canon.

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Physical intimacy does exist in the show's world, even if it's not shown on-screen to keep it family friendly.

It's not kept out of the show just because the show has to be family friendly, it's kept out of the show because there's literally no reason to add it. Showing the entire pony reproduction process in graphic detail would have added absolutely no value to the story, except for letting a few creeps get their rocks off. And this is what most sexually explicit fanfiction is about, despite the fact that the authors and fans will vehemently argue to the contrary. I've explored far enough into the depths of other internet fandoms in the past to know that this is exactly what goes on.

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Don't you think that's overly generalizing? You'd consider a simple romantic story the same fundamental kind of "wrong" (to be honest, I don't even get all this prudishness about sex in the first place, but let's not get into that) as all-out p***, just not quite to the same extent?

Yeah you're right, it's not really the same thing. And honestly, G-rated shipping between OCs (see: Stormy Nights) doesn't bother me at all. When it's done in an M-rated context or with canon characters, that's what bugs me. It's like Sesambrot was saying, it's just lazy and stupid.

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On a similar note, it seemed to me like you were tossing out some rather stereotyping blanket statements about fanfiction in general, and how they all derail the characters from the canon etc. Isn't it unfair to indiscriminately paint all fanfics with this brush rather than acknowledging that, like every other medium, they're subject to Sturgeon's Law and range from horrible to excellent? (If that wasn't what you meant, just disregard this.)

I've read a number of good fanfics that stay true to the spirit of the show and don't involve main characters cutting each other into pieces and/or having explicitly-described sex with each other. Unfortunately, these good fanfics are the exception rather than the rule. Not only are most clopfics and shipfics disgusting and borderline pedophilia, they're also horribly written because the author is too concerned with putting their twisted fantasies down on paper to worry about whether or not it makes any sense within the context of whatever story they're writing.

[wanderer]

Is it bad that when I saw this:



That I thought THIS?



(ha, I bet you thought "aliens". Also, fake spoilers, wa-ha!)

[Sikreci]

wanderer, on 05 July 2012 - 02:25 PM, said:

My Little Matrix, My Little Matrix, ahhh ahhh ahhh ahhhh....

[Pacoua]

I think the rocket mounted sheep was more epic in nature than any pony could be.

[Firefun]

I was in this thread!

[wanderer]

Jace Nevada, on 05 July 2012 - 02:30 PM, said:

My Little Matrix, My Little Matrix, ahhh ahhh ahhh ahhhh....

Tasty, tasty Elements of Harmony. Om nom nom.

Does this mean Spike is going to play the part of Neo?