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[Rovertoo]

I like the GXP for Mechslots thing, actually. That way, people will still grind FOREVER for a Mechbay (A good thing, sometimes. Gives people something to do) or they can pay some MC for Mechbay or the equivalent for enough GXP for it.

Good Idea!
(Of course, as a free player, I am maybe looking at my own interests)

[DaZur]

Volume, on 14 February 2013 - 01:00 PM, said:

-snip.

No.

I suggest you read of on the fundamentals of F2P games... I think your drastically missing the point:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-to-play

[LionOne]

We'd kinda like you to buy a few MC so that this game doesn't die from lack of funds. Warmest regards, your fellow players.

[The pessimistic optimist]

How the hell do you expect the developer to make money? This game is not a charity mech bay are a great way for the developer to make money with out effecting game play.

[scruffy416]

Vechs, on 14 February 2013 - 01:40 PM, said:

I think some of you guys need to chill a bit.

I agree with Volume that there needs to be a way to get mechbays without using MC.

Why? So PGI can make more money.

Now you might be thinking, "Vechs, WTF, how does that work?"

Well essentially, I would make mechbays be maybe 15 million C-Bills, or 30,000 GXP, something very expensive and grindy, so getting a "free" mechbay would be a big timesink, but it would be doable. This is so PGI can say "Hey, you can do everything in this game for free, if you really want to invest the time."

But here's the thing -- the main purpose of doing this is to drive MC sales. If someone is sitting there grinding for hours just for a mechbay, and they have that 300 MC unlock button staring at them every time they return to the mechlab after a battle, the temptation is going to make a lot of people cave in.

They have to ask themselves "Is a 8 hour+ grind worth it when I could just pay them a few dollars?"

The people that still choose to grind instead of paying the 300 MC are the ones that either cannot or will not ever buy MC -- but PGI still needs as many free players as they can get, because the free players are game content for us paying players.

One more thing -- studies have been done that show that players who buy Pay Currency in a F2P are very likely to become return customers and buy more in the future. That first sale is the hardest, and I think there is potential here for PGI to basically, well, coax some free players into that first tiny sale with a big grind.

But we already have a 'big grind' mechanism in place - using 4 Mechbays to Master/Elite a Chassis. If this grind isn't enough to attract sales of MC, why would another 'grind' mechanism do any better?

[WarHippy]

I don't have a problem with them unlocking them via achievements, and perhaps a system that allows them to buy one bay every four months for c-bills which would allow them to aquire 3 over the course of a year. At the end of the year they could keep all 3 of their stalkers for example, and since it takes a year to aquire those 3 mech bays there is still the incentive to just unlock them with MC.

[Kyone Akashi]

I tend to be sceptical regarding F2P limitations in any game, but not in this case. A F2P player who has 4 'Mechbays occupied obviously enjoys the game enough to put quite a lot of time into it, given that acquiring 4 'Mechs with C-bills takes a bit of dedication.

At this level of enjoyment, supporting the product with 1-2 bucks really isn't asking too much. And if it is ... well, suck it up and sell one of the 'Mechs. Can always re-purchase it, after all. This really is just a question of comfort, not in any way affecting ingame performance.

[Zero Neutral]

M A L I C E, on 14 February 2013 - 01:01 PM, said:

F2P PLAYERS NEED A WAY TO ACQUIRE 'MECH BAYS WITHOUT BUYING MC.


No they don't.

I disagree, I think that they do.

[Vechs]

scruffy416, on 14 February 2013 - 02:03 PM, said:

But we already have a 'big grind' mechanism in place - using 4 Mechbays to Master/Elite a Chassis. If this grind isn't enough to attract sales of MC, why would another 'grind' mechanism do any better?

Because this one doesn't rely on removing content from players (their mechs they bought).

[KKRonkka]

No Need to Acquire for Free. One can play with four free slots, its his decision. A bit difficult if you want to master mechs. BUT! If you buy about 1250 MCs which equals seven bucks - gee, isn't that an investment. You wont even feel that money missing and get enough mechbays to feel comfortable.

In my opinion the need of mechbays is the best driver behind buying of MCs. Heck, I bought 1250 MC pack and it got rid of difficult balancing between buying and selling of Fun-to-play/Variant-I-need-to-play mechs.

Not pay-to-win, but pay-for-convenience.

[Buckminster]

Seriously, stop the QQ.

$7 gets you 4 extra mech bays. Either suck it up or go play Farmville.

[Redwo1f]

Support the developers! 4 is plenty for people to play the game with - if you are serious about the game, then buy more bays to help ultimately with the development of it. If you can't handle the fact that the developers need a source of income, then leave.

[AC]

I disagree completely. Compared to other f2p games, MWO is very giving to the free players. Play SWOTR for instance. After about a good couple hours of play, (1 planets worth of story line), they drop you down to 'free' status and severly limit your content. Almost to the point of pay to win territory.

MWO on the other hand gives you 4 free mech bays and doesn't limit any of your functional content. (just cosmetic) This is a very good deal for free players.

[KuruptU4Fun]

M A L I C E, on 14 February 2013 - 01:01 PM, said:

F2P PLAYERS NEED A WAY TO ACQUIRE 'MECH BAYS WITHOUT BUYING MC.


No they don't.

Nonoka, on 14 February 2013 - 01:11 PM, said:

Oh God, I actually agree with Malice.


I feel so dirty.....

Edited for Speeling =)

M A L I C E, on 14 February 2013 - 01:16 PM, said:

Everyone eventually agrees with me about something.

A case of a broken clock being right two times a day or just a valid sense of correctness? I'll let you decide.

I too agree with him on this point, though I think it has to do with (in this case) keeping his point short and sweet. Not trying to relentlessly hammer a square peg into a round hole...

Edited by KuruptU4Fun, 14 February 2013 - 02:31 PM.

[BlackSquirrel]

It will be ok if you chip in 5 bucks... If you can't afford 5 bucks... You need to reevaluate yourself.

[WarHippy]

AC, on 14 February 2013 - 02:24 PM, said:

I disagree completely. Compared to other f2p games, MWO is very giving to the free players. Play SWOTR for instance. After about a good couple hours of play, (1 planets worth of story line), they drop you down to 'free' status and severly limit your content. Almost to the point of pay to win territory.

MWO on the other hand gives you 4 free mech bays and doesn't limit any of your functional content. (just cosmetic) This is a very good deal for free players.

Yes, but compare it to League of Legends and it seems a little lacking. In League every character can be aquired with in game currency, and you are not limited to the number of characters you can own. The only thing to spend cash on are skins and time savers. In MW:O on the other hand you can only purchase most of the mechs with in game currency and you can't keep them all because you are limited in space. So I don't see a problem with allowing them to aquire mech bays over time like I suggested a few posts back.

[Pyrrho]

Mech Bays are probably the most reasonably priced MC purchase you can make. Let's complain about it!

[Zero Neutral]

M A L I C E, on 14 February 2013 - 02:24 PM, said:

You would appear to be in the gross minority, as well as on the wrong side of PGIs revenue model...

That's nice?

It's just my opinion.

League of Legends and other such DOTA style games provide ways for players to have every single, "Hero," available without a purchase. I believe that it could be done here and promote more players to join. These DOTA style games sell skins for, "Heroes," rather than selling the, "Heroes," themselves.

A lot of times, intelligence is drowned out by the driveling masses... just saying.

Edited by Zero Neutral, 14 February 2013 - 02:35 PM.

[Kylere]

If you cannot spring for six bucks it is time to get off your computer and get a job.

[KuruptU4Fun]

M A L I C E, on 14 February 2013 - 02:32 PM, said:

It's like ten-thousand spoons when all you need is a knife...

See, now gettingthat song by ALANIS MORISSETTE stuck in my head after posting that is something I would expect from you.

Since I don't know if you're old enough to remember this song, I'll just have to hope:

We are the world, we are the children
We are the ones who make a brighter day
So lets start giving
There's a choice we're making
We're saving our own lives
Its true we'll make a better day
Just you and me