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[Livewyr]

Only wanted to play about 2-3 games before hitting the hay.
Caustic valley Assault- I'm in a K2.

Standard Assault pubbing strategy.. go up to the calderra and wait until you see what they're doing.
After not seeing them come up to the other side of the calderra I went and checked the 3 line to see if I could see anything.
Sure enough, two ECM atlases (which one can surmise; are not alone)
I type into chat "3 line"

After a few seconds, and praying it was just not lending itself to the obvious:
"THRREEEEEEE LINEEEEEEE>>>>>>>>>>"

Not ONE turn around.. they proceed to the other side of the calderra and start congregating around E5-E6.. I assume they're all fighting a mech (I hope.. for at least one shred of.. hope)

So I do make a lame attempt to run back to cap and hope to buy a little time until they learn to read or look at a map.. either/or..

Apparently it was at least 4 mechs on the base because they capped very very quickly.
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If they ever enforce no groups of any kind in random games- they will lose anyone who (like me) can't stand losing a match because they're the only one in the match with literacy and sense.

Losing to a group because your team just wasn't as organized, I can handle.. losing to a group because your team can't read, look at a map, or figure out something is wrong because you haven't seen the enemy team yet is just ludicrous.

(8mans should stay against 8mans, but don't ever remove 4mans from random games.)
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I hope ELO works.


/rant.

[Pihb]

We need a "rage induced rantings" section on these forums.

[Screech]

Hope things work out for you.

[Tuku]

Pihb, on 17 February 2013 - 06:58 PM, said:

We need a "rage induced rantings" section on these forums.

I ANGRILY SECOND THIS MANS IDEA

[Livewyr]

Pihb, on 17 February 2013 - 06:58 PM, said:

We need a "rage induced rantings" section on these forums.

Kinda like group therapy.
Should put it in suggestion forums.

[Livewyr]

And another one-
Whole team splits off in 8 directions.. (well, 7 plus mine, which was to go to a hill near our base and try to spot enemy)
Game lasted 4 minutes.

Least I got my mech back quickly.

[SlXSlXSlX]

Well that coulda very well been a 4 man u lost to. Or 4 n 2, 4n 3, or 4 n some good pubs. In world of tanks, a platoon makes up 20% of a team, here, a group makes up 50%. Thats the problem at it's core. Yes its doubled when you have 2 four mans but... blah blah dead horse blazzy blah.

If its been going on since before I started, december, somewhere around 6 months, opening of beta, and they have not changed it despite seeing the total population tanking for a spell, or perhaps up until now, I will assume it will never change. <-- run on sentence....

But im still playing. Just not as much. This is/was alot of it, but I cannot say that anymore. As I've kept improving, and learned to ID the situation and find workarounds, such as berrating my pubs until they respond, perhaps even shooting them until they act tactically, other times saying, im rambo this round since im boned anyways, or simply alt f4 im gonna go get pizza and come back later today. Ive come to terms with it. In a way, I like the uphill battle, but get aggravated by it all the same. I think what truely has me played out on mwo these days is a lack of new content. Ive seen and played pretty much all they have to offer. Other than romantisizing about triple uac5 Illyas, theres not much left to try that I havnt already driven.

TL DR: Get bent 4 mans, and Ill shoot you tomorrow. Just not as much as a month ago, bc its getting a tad stale.

[Team Leader]

Could have just been your crappy pugs versus a team of intelligent pugs. A few simple commands can go a long way... If all one guy had to say was "guys follow me down 3 line for a cap" and his pugs listened... That just sucks for you.
Don't automatically blame premades for 1) you being bad or 2) your team being bad. Sounds like it was number 2 in this case... But some people should follow number 1.



Wait... How does this make you WANT there to be groups in randoms... What. I think a good balance would be matching the number of groups on each side, or having 2 4man teams in each side... That would be a lot better.

Edited by Team Leader, 17 February 2013 - 08:19 PM.

[Eldan Sontim]

Hmmm, raging about people who can't read...... on a forum.
let me know how that works out for you champ

But yes, I have known the same rage.

[Viper69]

You need to be able to put a Waypoint for your team to see on the map. Some people are nitwits and cant read a gridmap. They are used to playing wow and will follow any glowing beacon from the sky.

[Ryvucz]

Maybe they have no idea what you're talking about. "3 line" can be very vague for someone that just started, or isn't very fond of the battle grid, or know how to look at the larger map.

[Thirdstar]

Livewyr, on 17 February 2013 - 06:48 PM, said:

(8mans should stay against 8mans, but don't ever remove 4mans from random games.)
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I hope ELO works.


/rant.

Sucks to be you. Should have just jumped onto TS.

Livewyr, on 17 February 2013 - 06:48 PM, said:

anyone who (like me) can't stand losing a match because they're the only one in the match with literacy and sense.

Suck it up princess, what do think smarter PUGs have been dealing with for months?

Edited by Thirdstar, 17 February 2013 - 08:23 PM.

[Orthodontist]

Should have had tag...

Faults on you, bro.

[Sagamore]

I almost uninstalled when my group of random pugs played a 4-man all piloting the same flavour of the month, cheese grater nerd bird known as the RVN-3L with identical loadouts. They just ran around with their 4 ECMs focus firing us until our uncoordinated team fell apart.

I hope ELO works

/rant

[Volume]

Pihb, on 17 February 2013 - 06:58 PM, said:

We need a "rage induced rantings" section on these forums.

Tuku, on 17 February 2013 - 07:03 PM, said:

I ANGRILY SECOND THIS MANS IDEA

We actually do have that.

http://mwomercs.com/...m/152-kaetetoa/

In all seriousness, OP, what's your solution?

Make sure you or the other team is on the other end of the premade stomp? This is more fair than your allies not knowing what "3 line" means, or what to do with that information / counter? Perhaps you could be more specific? Lots of newer players won't know what it means, but if you have the time to type THREEEEEEE LINEEEEEEEEEEE ---------->" I bet you could've typed "Column of assaults coming from sector F3"

Not everyone is up to snuff on the lingo.

You will have people who are bad on your team until you climb out of the bad ELO area, which is most easily done by grouping, but can also be done by excelling as a solo player and strongly contributing to your team winning percentage.

I truthfully don't understand your answer to this. Is it something like "Since everyone on my team is going to suck, I'd rather be matched with a 4 man group vs a 4 man group" because that would still be pretty bad, but better than 4man group + 4 randoms vs 8 randoms, I guess.

[thegimp73]

Hopefully ELO will help to put the lower skilled players in there own games, or at the very least spread them out evenly amongst both teams.

As to the issue of groups. I have to disagree with the OP. My opion is the game would be much better served with 2man max groups for the random game drops. If you would like to play a higher group amount, then go play in the que that is designed for groups. Also PGI could implement a group mechanic similar to WOT(once the teams sizes get to 12v12 or 16v16), those players who purchase Premium Time could then run a 3man group. Thus giving people more reason to use premium time and making PGI money, while at the same time balancing out play for the solo players.

[Chavette]

Vlad will kill me for this, but it probably wont fix it completely.

Post about the separation in the suggestions sub forum.

[Fyrerock]

Team speak stays up for such a short period of time that is it easy to miss the message, which is why I keep hitting Y to bring up the team speak window to see if I missed any communication. I have a feeling many people do not even try to read the messages once the fight starts.

[Vassago Rain]

Learn to warboss.

[dal10]

SlXSlXSlX, on 17 February 2013 - 08:04 PM, said:

Well that coulda very well been a 4 man u lost to. Or 4 n 2, 4n 3, or 4 n some good pubs. In world of tanks, a platoon makes up 20% of a team, here, a group makes up 50%. Thats the problem at it's core. Yes its doubled when you have 2 four mans but... blah blah dead horse blazzy blah.

If its been going on since before I started, december, somewhere around 6 months, opening of beta, and they have not changed it despite seeing the total population tanking for a spell, or perhaps up until now, I will assume it will never change. <-- run on sentence....

But im still playing. Just not as much. This is/was alot of it, but I cannot say that anymore. As I've kept improving, and learned to ID the situation and find workarounds, such as berrating my pubs until they respond, perhaps even shooting them until they act tactically, other times saying, im rambo this round since im boned anyways, or simply alt f4 im gonna go get pizza and come back later today. Ive come to terms with it. In a way, I like the uphill battle, but get aggravated by it all the same. I think what truely has me played out on mwo these days is a lack of new content. Ive seen and played pretty much all they have to offer. Other than romantisizing about triple uac5 Illyas, theres not much left to try that I havnt already driven.

TL DR: Get bent 4 mans, and Ill shoot you tomorrow. Just not as much as a month ago, bc its getting a tad stale.

it did change, it was originally 8