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[TychoTheItinerant]

Roadbeer, on 11 November 2013 - 01:59 PM, said:

Man,

You can't even

counter-counterflame right.

K Town is no place for you.

You're kind of like a palsied mentally-defective child with a leaky colostomy bag. I'm torn between feeling sorry for you, and feeling stomach-turning disgust whenever you drip **** all over the room.

Edited by TychoTheItinerant, 11 November 2013 - 02:11 PM.

[Roadbeer]

TychoTheItinerant, on 11 November 2013 - 02:11 PM, said:

You're kind of like a palsied mentally-defective child with a leaky colostomy bag. I'm torn between feeling sorry for you, and feeling stomach-turning disgust whenever you drip **** all over the room.

Better!

Now try it

without having

to edit your post.

It looses impact.

[TychoTheItinerant]

Roadbeer, on 11 November 2013 - 02:20 PM, said:

Better!

Now try it

without having

to edit your post.

It looses impact.

It isn't my fault Piggy decided to censor the word "r e tarded".

[Roadbeer]

TychoTheItinerant, on 11 November 2013 - 02:21 PM, said:

It isn't my fault Piggy decided to censor the word "r e tarded".

Sure it is,

because a true

master of the flame

wouldn't need to use

words that are unable

to clear a language filter.

It speaks to low breeding

and insufficient education

that puts you in that

situation.

It appears to me

that once again,

you're blaming PGI

for your own

shortcomings.

Thanks for playing

Corky.

[Heffay]

Roadbeer, on 11 November 2013 - 02:20 PM, said:

Better!

Now try it

without having

to edit your post.

It looses impact.

Hehehe... oh man, you truly are a master.

Markemp's Guide to Internet Trolling Scoring

Trolling. It's a time-honored tradition for internet forums. It allows someone to step outside of their normally meek exterior and explore their inner demon-child. Getting a rise out of someone is a wonderful feeling, as it is instant validation that you are having an effect on something in the world. A troll makes a difference! The actions they take cause people to laugh, cry, or gnash their teeth in anger!

The topics are usually catered to the forum in question. For example, a forum on politics lends itself to many excellent trolling opportunities, as people are extremely invested in their particular beliefs. Want an instant fight? Talk about abortion or religion! But in reality, these topics are low-hanging fruit and not really worth the time of an expert troll. The best trolls take relatively benign topics and twist them to draw the rage out of the readers. Drawing a parallel of an entire race/class of characters in WoW (e.g. "All NE hunters are 17 and under; here's the proof!") is a tougher sell, but infinitely more enjoyable for the troll. Getting people to respond to an obvious troll is a good sign of success.

Starting a good troll is also a work of art. Just blurting out some controversial subject and calling a bunch of people idiots right off the bat is a poor start, whether it gets responses or not. A good attempt will use logic and calm, reasonable language to make a point designed to **** people off. For example, noone with half a brain would argue that Jonathan Swift was being serious in "A Modest Proposal", but were that posted on a forum today, there would be a thousand posts about how joking about eating babies wasn't *funny,* and cannibalism isn't humorous, and my God, what, are you 13 and have nothing better to do? Satire is lost on people with no sense of humor, and they are the best ones to troll!

So what makes a good troll? The obvious signs are how heated people get over the troll attempt. Threats of physical violence, incoherent posting from people so emotional they can't put together a sentence, even someone quitting the forum to avoid the angst are all good signs, but what we really need is an objective method of determining the effectiveness of a particular troll. This is why I've developed the following scoring system to help identify the best trolls out there.

Scoring

Initial post: 5 points

Each reply pro-OP: 1 point
Each reply anti-OP: 3 points
Each neutral reply (off-topic): 0 points (useful for giving a running point total for a good troll)
Each reply by the OP: -10 points (no self bumping, unless you feel the thread needs a refresher or some other juicy info to put people over the edge)

Getting someone to mention their age: 5 points
Getting someone to mention their income: 7 points
Getting someone to say they are having a private conversation with someone on a public forum (i.e. "this is between me and X, so ****"): 10 points
Getting someone to make a comparison to {Godwin's Law}/!@*@s (Godwin's Law): 15 points
Getting someone to mention their SAT/ACT scores: 50 points (the proverbial IWIN button)

Personal insults to the OP: 3 points
Personal insults to other forum members: 2 points (not applicable in OP)
Personal insults to an entire group/group of people (drawing a stereotype): 8 points


Counter-trolling:

Counter-trolling is derailing an otherwise serious thread to the point where the OP's point is lost. Scoring this is done exactly the same way, except for scoring purposes the Original Post begins where the troll made his counter-point. His side becomes the 'pro' side, and the original OP becomes the 'anti' side.

If you see a particularly good trolling attempt out there, feel free to honor the OP by posting his score. Likewise, if you see a bad one (lots of bumps by the OP to try to get people to bite), call them out for the losers they are. But do it in a way to not give them any more points than they deserve! Good luck, and good trolling!

[TychoTheItinerant]

Roadbeer, on 11 November 2013 - 02:24 PM, said:

Sure it is,

because a true

master of the flame

wouldn't need to use

words that are unable

to clear a language filter.

It speaks to low breeding

and insufficient education

that puts you in that

situation.

It appears to me

that once again,

you're blaming PGI

for your own

shortcomings.

Thanks for playing

Corky.

This is quite literally the only forum I've ever been on that censors that word (possibly because Piggy was tired of being referred to with it).

EDIT: Nice circlejerking there, Heffay.

Edited by TychoTheItinerant, 11 November 2013 - 02:28 PM.

[Heffay]

Oh, and for the record, unlike the Ultimate Flame (which I properly attributed, if you could focus on the post through your tears), I wrote that. I'm quite proud of it. Been around for a while! The first version of it dates all the way back to the Everquest days!

TychoTheItinerant, on 11 November 2013 - 02:27 PM, said:

EDIT: Nice circlejerking there, Heffay.

We'd invite you to join in, but frankly you're a bit of a pill and would really be a damper on the fun.

[Roadbeer]

TychoTheItinerant, on 11 November 2013 - 02:27 PM, said:

This is quite literally the only forum I've ever been on that censors that word (possibly because Piggy was tired of being referred to with it).

Ahh,

I fondly remember

my first week on the

interwebz too.

[TychoTheItinerant]

Heffay, on 11 November 2013 - 02:30 PM, said:

We'd invite you to join in, but frankly you're a bit of a pill and would really be a damper on the fun.

Surprised you can even do that with those pom-poms on your hands, cheerleader. Or are you using your mouth?

[Silent]

This page is the worst.

Until the next page.

Edited by Silent, 11 November 2013 - 02:35 PM.

[Heffay]

TychoTheItinerant, on 11 November 2013 - 02:34 PM, said:

Surprised you can even do that with those pom-poms on your hands, cheerleader. Or are you using your mouth?

What's wrong with sucking a little {LT-MOB-25} every now and then? You have something against gay people?

[LaserAngel]

Egomane, on 11 November 2013 - 11:04 AM, said:

If they post constructive about it, don't repeat it like a mantra and do not combine it with insults, personal attacks or threats, I'd listen to them. I said it several times an the forums already: Whenever you have to use bad language or insults to make a point, you didn't have a point to begin with.

You had to add an ad-hominem to your first line, so you just disqualified your point. Want to try again?

There was a time to be constructive but we are beyond that point. There was a point to be jaded and cynical and we're beyond that too. There was a time to talk about MWO from the safety of your podcast. We no longer to do that. So I decided that the best thing to do was uninstall the game, deprive PGI of as much telemetry as possible (well except for right now...), and then when any new players ask me about the game; I'll give them my honest opinion about the game.

Edited by LaserAngel, 11 November 2013 - 02:43 PM.

[TychoTheItinerant]

Heffay, on 11 November 2013 - 02:38 PM, said:

What's wrong with sucking a little {LT-MOB-25} every now and then? You have something against gay people?

No, but prostitution doesn't seem like a very good career for you, even if it is on the Internet.

[Heffay]

TychoTheItinerant, on 11 November 2013 - 02:42 PM, said:

No, but prostitution doesn't seem like a very good career for you, even if it is on the Internet.

I beg to differ. I would make an *excellent* prostitute. I am nothing if not detail oriented, thorough, empathetic, and... well, I don't mean to humblebrag too much, but I am quite good looking and fit.

[TychoTheItinerant]

Heffay, on 11 November 2013 - 02:46 PM, said:

I beg to differ. I would make an *excellent* prostitute. I am nothing if not detail oriented, thorough, empathetic, and... well, I don't mean to humblebrag too much, but I am quite good looking and fit.

You certainly have the "no standards" part down pat. I do question your business model, though, since your gold-star status seems to indicate you're basically paying Piggy for the privilege of being their little angel, rather than the other way around. Or are they paying you in MC? Sad thing about those MC - in a couple months they'll probably be pretty worthless, and unlike the Germans and their Deutschmarks after World War I, you won't even be able to use them to wallpaper your room.

[RG Notch]

TychoTheItinerant, on 11 November 2013 - 02:21 PM, said:

It isn't my fault Piggy decided to censor the word "r e tarded".

Nope it's your fault for thinking that word doesn't need censoring, that says a lot more about you than PGI. Then again just reading your posts tells a lot about you that's just sad.

[TychoTheItinerant]

RG Notch, on 11 November 2013 - 02:56 PM, said:

Nope it's your fault for thinking that word doesn't need censoring, that says a lot more about you than PGI. Then again just reading your posts tells a lot about you that's just sad.

Oh, et tu Brute? Now you're gonna jump onto the dogpile? And why would that word need censoring?

[Roadbeer]

TychoTheItinerant, on 11 November 2013 - 03:00 PM, said:

Oh, et tu Brute? Now you're gonna jump onto the dogpile? And why would that word need censoring?

As I said in another thread

some people need

parental supervision

when using the interwebz.

RG, I think you

made him cry.

Edit: Needed to shift for K Town posting

Edited by Roadbeer, 11 November 2013 - 03:16 PM.

[RG Notch]

TychoTheItinerant, on 11 November 2013 - 03:00 PM, said:

Oh, et tu Brute? Now you're gonna jump onto the dogpile? And why would that word need censoring?

Like I said the fact you don't understand why it's censored speaks volumes about you, and none of them say anything positive.

[Roadbeer]

RG Notch, on 11 November 2013 - 03:23 PM, said:

Like I said the fact you don't understand why it's censored speaks volumes about you, and none of them say anything positive.

Sucks when someone

like that, backs up your

posts.

Completely invalidates

any argument you're

trying to make.

That's why I believe

the 3PV and ECM

arguments failed.

Future neckbeards

who are too young

to know any better.