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#1 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 15 January 2016 - 12:24 PM

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So some overall decent PPC velocity buffs across the boards (30%) and a 50% for the 6R (not the 60% Russ first thought...or they toned it down since the livestream).

And a pretty hefty chunk of structure buffs. Otherwise? Not much. Which I'm OK with.

Yes, we all know they need to just BUFF velocity for PPCs and ERPPCs themselves by about 30%, instead of bandaiding "PPC MEch", but that's for a different topic (aka a "Fix PPCs thread? )


Aside from the obvious, any opinions, concerns, glaring neglects?

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Posted 15 January 2016 - 12:26 PM

Ignore the 6k designation. I used it for the base for a black widow build.

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#3 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 15 January 2016 - 12:30 PM

View Postreign, on 15 January 2016 - 12:26 PM, said:

Ignore the 6k designation. I used it for the base for a black widow build.

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OK, not sure what that has to do with the quirks, though overall?

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Posted 15 January 2016 - 12:31 PM

I lost interest the moment I saw Ballistic Quirks

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Posted 15 January 2016 - 12:32 PM

View Postreign, on 15 January 2016 - 12:26 PM, said:

Ignore the 6k designation. I used it for the base for a black widow build.

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3 tons of ammo with 3 UAC/5? That isn't gonna end well...

That's the ideal ammo count for a SINGLE UAC/5 lol.

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Posted 15 January 2016 - 12:34 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 15 January 2016 - 12:24 PM, said:

https://static.mwome...f5f3ed5a1ee.jpg

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So some overall decent PPC velocity buffs across the boards (30%) and a 50% for the 6R (not the 60% Russ first thought...or they toned it down since the livestream).

And a pretty hefty chunk of structure buffs. Otherwise? Not much. Which I'm OK with.

Yes, we all know they need to just BUFF velocity for PPCs and ERPPCs themselves by about 30%, instead of bandaiding "PPC MEch", but that's for a different topic (aka a "Fix PPCs thread? )


Aside from the obvious, any opinions, concerns, glaring neglects?

BW has the best Torso twist speed, while the 6R gets the most structure quirks.

The others aside from the 7S and BW have average torso turn speed...

BW will be a mean SOB if you can master the twist and shoot technique.

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Posted 15 January 2016 - 12:36 PM

...wow, **** the Cataphract.


That's all I have to say about those quirks.

#8 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 15 January 2016 - 12:38 PM

View PostFupDup, on 15 January 2016 - 12:32 PM, said:

3 tons of ammo with 3 UAC/5? That isn't gonna end well...

That's the ideal ammo count for a SINGLE UAC/5 lol.

it's a less versatile ammo poor Jagermech, that cant aim up or down?

View PostScout Derek, on 15 January 2016 - 12:34 PM, said:

BW has the best Torso twist speed, while the 6R gets the most structure quirks.

The others aside from the 7S and BW have average torso turn speed...

BW will be a mean SOB if you can master the twist and shoot technique.

BW makes me wish we had LACs in......

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Posted 15 January 2016 - 12:39 PM

View PostMcgral18, on 15 January 2016 - 12:36 PM, said:

...wow, **** the Cataphract.


That's all I have to say about those quirks.


The Phract is old and no one buys them anymore.

The Whammy is new and PGI wants to sell them.

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Posted 15 January 2016 - 12:40 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 15 January 2016 - 12:24 PM, said:

Aside from the obvious, any opinions, concerns, glaring neglects?


20% Ballistic Velocity on the 6R? Tailor made for dual AC20s!

View PostEl Bandito, on 13 January 2016 - 08:01 PM, said:

Did somebody say, Dual AC20? Posted Image

NIPPLES OF DOOM!

Edited by El Bandito, 15 January 2016 - 12:43 PM.


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Posted 15 January 2016 - 12:43 PM

View PostCathy, on 15 January 2016 - 12:31 PM, said:

I lost interest the moment I saw Ballistic Quirks

Oh for f....

I don't understand why they keep doing that. The CPLT-K2 all over again. People using the canon PPC-arms as damage soaking shields and using the side torsos for AC10s or AC20s.

View PostMcgral18, on 15 January 2016 - 12:36 PM, said:

...wow, **** the Cataphract.


That's all I have to say about those quirks.

That's ok. The Warhammer is supposed to be a better ballistic platform than the Cataphract anyway, right?

Where's that MWO meme about how PGI decides on quirks again?

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Posted 15 January 2016 - 12:43 PM

Well I gave it max armor. You can trim the arms and it had .5 free

Also dump the med lasers your looking at about 7 tons of ammo. and structure buffed to the max.

Or you can go 250 engine with quad ac5

Edited by reign, 15 January 2016 - 12:44 PM.


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Posted 15 January 2016 - 12:45 PM

View PostAlistair Winter, on 15 January 2016 - 12:43 PM, said:

Oh for f....

I don't understand why they keep doing that. The CPLT-K2 all over again. People using the canon PPC-arms as damage soaking shields and using the side torsos for AC10s or AC20s.


I opposed vehemently on the K2 ballistic slot misuse back in 2012, but people cried about wanting to have freedom to configure their mechs however they want. Sized hardpoints would have given mechs far more personalities, IMO, but that ship had sailed...

Edited by El Bandito, 15 January 2016 - 12:46 PM.


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Posted 15 January 2016 - 12:46 PM

Should've gotten MG quirks instead of General Ballistics Posted Image

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Posted 15 January 2016 - 12:48 PM

Great quirks about what I expected them to be. Looks like a solid mech that will be super tanky. BW will be deadly for sure.

6R looks like an amazing PPC mech, 15% heat gen is awsome sauce.

Edited by Alwrath, 15 January 2016 - 12:51 PM.


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Posted 15 January 2016 - 12:49 PM

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 15 January 2016 - 12:46 PM, said:

Should've gotten MG quirks instead of General Ballistics Posted Image


100% MG velocity! Oh wait, it is already hit-scan.

200% MG range! Oh wait, it has horrible CoF.

Edited by El Bandito, 15 January 2016 - 12:49 PM.


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Posted 15 January 2016 - 12:49 PM

View PostEl Bandito, on 15 January 2016 - 12:45 PM, said:


I opposed vehemently on the K2 ballistic slot misuse back in 2012, but people cried about wanting to have freedom to configure their mechs however they want. Sized hardpoints would have given mechs far more personalities, IMO, but that ship had sailed...

or we could see 2400 m/s GaussHammers for those who couldn't aim well enough at 2000 m/s.....

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Posted 15 January 2016 - 12:49 PM

if a mech carries MG's it shouldn't get ballistic quirks that can be used for anything bigger

from day one the damn thing will be going out there with AC20,Ac10, and the rest, still 18 months and I can play a proper Mech game

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Posted 15 January 2016 - 12:53 PM

just to ecco, that Black Widow is going to be nasty, once someone has the hang of it... Other than that, I;m rather happy with the 6R, it's going to make my R{b} nasty.

View PostBishop Steiner, on 15 January 2016 - 12:49 PM, said:

or we could see 2400 m/s GaussHammers for those who couldn't aim well enough at 2000 m/s.....


Even at 2000 m/s it's almost hit scan... 2400m/s will be hit scan....

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Posted 15 January 2016 - 12:54 PM

View PostCathy, on 15 January 2016 - 12:49 PM, said:

if a mech carries MG's it shouldn't get ballistic quirks that can be used for anything bigger

from day one the damn thing will be going out there with AC20,Ac10, and the rest, still 18 months and I can play a proper Mech game


I wasn't gonna use much ballistics on mine, but now, I will, just to see what you do when I kill you.





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