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[Kdogg788]

jay35, on 21 March 2013 - 07:21 AM, said:

That's pretty much impossible to accomplish, given a 3rd-person view provides an entirely different perspective than a first-person view.

You'd have to have a high and tight camera aspect like right at shoulder level right behind the mech. Anything that frames the whole figure or views him from several meters out can be used to take advantage of the aspect, especially seeing around terrain and if there are enemies behind you.

-k

[Erasus Magnus]

daemur, on 20 March 2013 - 07:42 PM, said:

Who is this 3rd person?

[jay35]

QuantumButler, on 20 March 2013 - 07:40 PM, said:

I like how the MWO community unanimously said "no" to 3rd person, and PGI went "well too bad you're getting it anyway"

Truely they listen to our input and give us what the playerbase wants.

Unfortunately, that's the CoD playerbase.

Well, all those kiddies with mom's wallet available to them is a huge market for PGI, whether we want it to be so or not.

The only way this can work though, and allow them to keep all audiences, is to have the 3rd person view be only in Training Grounds and only in select 3rd Person Enabled servers. And even then, it will split the community and open the door to hacks for people to get it working on non-3rd-Person-view servers. You know that's what will happen. It's opening Pandora's box and she's not hygienic at all. It will be nasty.

[Terror Teddy]

All this 3rd person view...

Cant we have:

2nd person view - You see it from the view of the enemy targeting you
4th person view - You see yourself from an innocent bystanders view
4th wall breaking view - You see yourself from another players screen view as they see you

[Furmansky]

GREAT
Make Mechwarrior Tactics as a RTS with possible cockpit view... that makes sense...
Just do a bloody World of Battlemechs, and let those millions that want to enjoy 3rd person view have it... why you are poisoning Mechwarrior Online for the love of....
Since so many 3rd person view fans out there I see absolutely no problem for them to have their own game with theirs founders program... gold ammo and whatever they wish...

Is our current community really so bad PGI? Do we have to be punished, cause other gamers don't like the colors we like?
We all came here to play what you promised to us... game we wanted to play. Many of us paid many didn't but we still enjoy THAT MECHWARRIOR... If you put 3rd person view I think I'll be getting the hell out to WOT and War Thunder... Yeah I paid already so I can go and F*** myself... I think this is something devs need to choose, will it be us or them... But be sure if the game still will be broken and without more content, good luck keeping any one in the seat cause 3rd person view on its own will not fix the real issues.

[jay35]

Kdogg788, on 21 March 2013 - 07:23 AM, said:

You'd have to have a high and tight camera aspect like right at shoulder level right behind the mech. Anything that frames the whole figure or views him from several meters out can be used to take advantage of the aspect, especially seeing around terrain and if there are enemies behind you.

-k

And if you played MW4, you know the biggest gripe was often behind able to see OVER terrain in front of you, allowing you to hide your mech behind a hill in such a way that none of it was visible on the other side, but the 3rd person camera view was slightly higher than the top of the mech (which it sort of has to be in order to see over the mech), so you could see over the hill and know precisely when to pop out and ambush someone, and they'd also have their weapons already aimed at the correct location. Complete imbalanced advantage for the 3rd person view player.


Hey, I'd love to be able to see my own mech's camo and take glamour shots of it, but they can fulfill that by putting better camera controls and lighting in the mechlab where we select camo and colors, lighting, color filters from each of the maps, whatever. Make it a freaking photography studio in there, if they must. They just dont need to shove 3rd person view into the actual game.

Edited by jay35, 21 March 2013 - 07:30 AM.

[MustrumRidcully]

Terror Teddy, on 21 March 2013 - 07:25 AM, said:

All this 3rd person view...

Cant we have:

2nd person view - You see it from the view of the enemy targeting you

Module: Emphatic Vision Mode

Quote

4th person view - You see yourself from an innocent bystanders view

Module: No Vision Mode. (No innocent bystanders in Battletech!)

Quote

4th wall breaking view - You see yourself from another players screen view as they see you

Module: Stalker Vision Mode

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Dakkath, on 21 March 2013 - 07:10 AM, said:

It was more of a tongue in cheek response, lighten up... But you can sure hit the report button if you want. More power to ya buddy.

again... community mods, trolling. Respect, we has none

Max Power, on 21 March 2013 - 07:13 AM, said:

Adding fuel to the fire when people are already really pissed off is very poor decision, especially for a moderator. The post by the yellow in this thread should have made that clear.

can you repost that? This thread jumped 15 pages since I was on it last night

[QuantumButler]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 21 March 2013 - 07:30 AM, said:

again... community mods, trolling. Respect, we has none



can you repost that? This thread jumped 15 pages since I was on it last night

It's on the first page, just a couple posts down.

[Bloodred]

This is horrible, 3rd person? If this comes out I'm hands down not touching MWO anymore. This, the coolant and the supposed golden ammo plans make me really regret that I just spent $15 on MC for Jager and Highlander mechbays. What the hell is PGI doing? The last few patches the game has been improving, now we get coolant/consumables and they're planning on adding damned golden ammo and a 3rd person camera?

[Kill3rAce]

These are the decisions by this company that make me said as someone who invested $60 in to the game. Why can't they stick their pillars like they said they would. It's because their scared and they know the only way to save their job is to cater to these people who haven't even spent a dollar. It makes me sick

[Morang]

Ah, and as they began to fix controls and UI and steadily release content, I just thought that hard times are gone. Just waited for some answers in Q&A to place my investments better... But now - again, no money for PGI until I'm sure that there will be no 3rd person and P2W stuff.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

QuantumButler, on 21 March 2013 - 07:32 AM, said:

It's on the first page, just a couple posts down.

ah yes, the whose 3rd person joke.
cause that shows how much they care about what this forum community thinks

[ego1607]

I'd be OK with a third person if it involved no HUD elements like map, compas, targeting or aiming, making it usefull just as an eye candy while driving form point a to point b.

[QuantumButler]

Kill3rAce, on 21 March 2013 - 07:35 AM, said:

These are the decisions by this company that make me said as someone who invested $60 in to the game. Why can't they stick their pillars like they said they would. It's because their scared and they know the only way to save their job is to cater to these people who haven't even spent a dollar. It makes me sick

What I don't get is why you'd cater to those who aren't even interested in playing the game over those who are and indeed have already proven they will pay money for stupid things.

Even if you add 3rd person you're alientating your core, paying fans in the hopes you *might* attract people who have proven they don't really want to play this kind of game.

You should instead focus on what your current customers want instead of trying to turn this game into something it isn't.

[Dakkath]

ego1607, on 21 March 2013 - 07:38 AM, said:

I'd be OK with a third person if it involved no HUD elements like map, compas, targeting or aiming, making it usefull just as an eye candy while driving form point a to point b.

Or if they were to be able to separate it out so people who want to drop 3rd can only go against other people that wanna drop in 3rd.

[Sifright]

Terror Teddy, on 21 March 2013 - 07:25 AM, said:

All this 3rd person view...

Cant we have:

2nd person view - You see it from the view of the enemy targeting you
4th person view - You see yourself from an innocent bystanders view
4th wall breaking view - You see yourself from another players screen view as they see you

Yea I mean we already have 0th person view (black screen bug when your game crashes before getting to a match

[Krzysztof z Bagien]

Dakkath, on 21 March 2013 - 07:39 AM, said:

Or if they were to be able to separate it out so people who want to drop 3rd can only go against other people that wanna drop in 3rd.

Do you really think that dividing already quite small playerbase (which is going to be divided by regional servers) even more is a good idea?

[Thirdstar]

Dakkath, on 21 March 2013 - 07:39 AM, said:

Or if they were to be able to separate it out so people who want to drop 3rd can only go against other people that wanna drop in 3rd.

I was repeatedly told that the playerbase will not survive any kind of segregation. Unless the consensus has suddenly changed about that.

[benth]

Dakkath, on 21 March 2013 - 07:39 AM, said:

Or if they were to be able to separate it out so people who want to drop 3rd can only go against other people that wanna drop in 3rd.

They won't separate Solo players from Premade groups because of fear for "Splitting the population"

Why would they split 3rd person users from 1st person?

If they did, I would be furious. Being on a 4 man team with coms is much more of an advantage than 3rd person.