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[InRev]

If I could vote "HELL YES" more than once with this poll, I would.

I sincerely hope that, if/when lobbies come out, someone will start up proper stock-only league . I have 0 confidence that PGI will ever support a stock mode, but as long as there is a demand for it, I think the community can pick up the slack once the proper tools exist. (similar to WoT player-run Historical Battles due to the fact that WG absolutely, positively refuses to implement a much asked-for historical game mode)

[TheForce]

InRev, on 15 June 2013 - 11:58 AM, said:

If I could vote "HELL YES" more than once with this poll, I would.

I sincerely hope that, if/when lobbies come out, someone will start up proper stock-only league . I have 0 confidence that PGI will ever support a stock mode, but as long as there is a demand for it, I think the community can pick up the slack once the proper tools exist. (similar to WoT player-run Historical Battles due to the fact that WG absolutely, positively refuses to implement a much asked-for historical game mode)

i have a website that can be used for a stock league if there is enough interest. unit leaders can launch attacks and planets change factions as battles are won/lost. full inner sphere map too.

Edited by TheForce, 15 June 2013 - 12:51 PM.

[Inkarnus]

still alot of fun in stock only stuff yay

[Dirus Nigh]

The OP clearly was asking for a stock mech game mode. I really do not see why so many people needed to troll the thread.

I would love to see a stock only mode in the game. Most of the stock load outs are usable in the hands of a good player. To expand the idea there should be a stock only competition ran by PGI.

[TheForce]

stock please

[blinkin]

Dirus Nigh, on 15 June 2013 - 04:51 PM, said:

The OP clearly was asking for a stock mech game mode. I really do not see why so many people needed to troll the thread.

I would love to see a stock only mode in the game. Most of the stock load outs are usable in the hands of a good player. To expand the idea there should be a stock only competition ran by PGI.

i haven't really seen any trolling and very few that disagree at all. could we maybe not actively try to reduce this thread to a flame war.

[Augustus Martelus II]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 28 April 2013 - 09:28 AM, said:

not only WAS he on topic, he was right.
And it wasnt rude to point out we already have the option to run this mode, you just use trial mechs

Its all because of Mechwarriror Buddah

[blinkin]

Augustus Martelus II, on 28 June 2013 - 10:50 AM, said:

Its all because of Mechwarriror Buddah

not surprising. i apologize in that case.

most of us here just ignore mech buddah, he is just a 13 year old that gets on his parents computer when they aren't watching.

[Valkener]

Stock matches bring a lot of fun, i can't wait for the finals of our inofficial 3025 stock tournament

[Appogee]

I support this.

One of the things that made MWLL successful is that no MechLab meant no CheeseBuilds. That is, each Mech had strengths and compromises, and could be balanced through its loadout. I went from ''wanting MechLab'' to ''being concerned that MechLab will destroy the game''. As we all know, MechLab never came for that game, so it was a moot point in the end.

But I'd enjoy the challenge of picking a stock variant and going up against others in stock variants. It would be a test of skill.

[Sulf]

Why this needs to have multiple game modes, I don't understand. Further, This is not the same as the difference between assault and conquest. It's a bit closer to the controversy of 3rd person-view causing segregation of the player base.

I assume you want to play canon loadouts, but I don't. I think it's better for everyone if they make a game that's fun first, and add features we all want. Especially considering how long it takes them to add anything.

btw, if you want to start a petition, go to Change.org. A poll is a poll.

[TheForce]

Brickyard, on 30 June 2013 - 10:49 AM, said:

Why this needs to have multiple game modes, I don't understand.

because they're losing money from people who won't play it.

Edited by TheForce, 30 June 2013 - 11:54 AM.

[Sulf]

TheForce, on 30 June 2013 - 11:53 AM, said:

because they're losing money from people who won't play it.

That's the theory they have with 3rd person view. The logic behind it is that new players don't understand how the torso, legs, and arms work independently, and need to see. This is completely different than needing a new game mode.

Now there are two ways to go about game modes. One adds content and features that expand on the immersion and environment. The other creates separate groups of players which do not mix together. It makes the game smaller through lack of compromise. This is bad.

Now, they may be losing money, but my guess is they're actually doing fine. (Since they started with a group of 10-13 and now have upwards of 40.) That's what comes from owning the market on the only real mech game around. We don't like the prices but most of us will still pay. More money than sense.

And if they are losing money it's not because we don't have a game mode with canon only mech variants. That makes no sense.

[InRev]

I currently do not actually play the game because I am bored as hell. Customization abuse has just turned this game into pure min/max where certain chassis completely dominate and others are useless.

Know what would bring me back? A stock-only mode. Why? because stock mechs are specifically built for roles. You want PPCs? You get an Awesome. You want an all-rounder? You take a Centurion. You want ewar? Raven it is.

There is no role warfare in the current game because customization has killed it. Stock mechs are far better balanced because they are deliberately built with weaknesses. They're intentionally not optimized and that makes things interesting. Stock mechs aren't uber-builds. They're usually kind of silly, but that means you really have to think about what you're trying to do. The sub-optimal nature of TT builds is what makes things balanced (yes, I know there are some TT mechs that are better than others but even they can't do everything).

I can't imagine it would be hard to implement a stock-only mode. There are already checks in the mechlab that prevent you from launching a game without suitable equipment (engine and 10 HS). Create similar checks for all equipment, match it against a database that contains the stock variants and there you have it. If no one ends up playing stock mode, then oh well. I guess I was wrong. But if people do then it looks like there was indeed demand for it. Best of all, what does PGI actually have to lose, beyond time due to some simple code-monkeying? (Note: if this isn't actually simple code-monkeying, I stand corrected).

Hell, it's not like there isn't a precedent of "Arcade-mode" and "Niche" mode in other F2P games. WarThunder has 3(!) modes: Arcade, Historical Battle and Full Real Battle, and it doesn't seem like there are any population split complaints there? After all, it's not like someone can't play all of them! Most people bounce around between all three as they get bored. MWO has no such option, meaning people just quit.

Bottom line: I would actually pay for a premium account if it gave me access to a stock-only mode. Right now, however, I don't even want to buy the Project Phoenix package because the game just doesn't interest me anymore. That sounds like lost money to me, and I know I'm not unique in this regard.

[Senor Cochones]

After playing nearly the whole first german 3025-stock tournament (only finals left to play) i have to say i would love to see this becoming are regular game mode. All (at least all i talked with) players are very happy with this mode. The battles are so challenging and very well balanced. It is much more fun than playing those often unbalanced and boring public matches.

[Darkblood]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 28 April 2013 - 09:28 AM, said:

not only WAS he on topic, he was right.
And it wasnt rude to point out we already have the option to run this mode, you just use trial mechs

So many smart guys eh? So, if I decide to run my trial Mech, what guaranties there will be no 6PPC Stalker on the other team then?

I´ll not go through the trouble of explaining why so many people want to play WITH and AGAINST stock Mechs only. You guys know that´s the idea of this post, you´re just being trolls.

[TheForce]

InRev, on 30 June 2013 - 12:54 PM, said:

Bottom line: I would actually pay for a premium account if it gave me access to a stock-only mode. Right now, however, I don't even want to buy the Project Phoenix package because the game just doesn't interest me anymore. That sounds like lost money to me, and I know I'm not unique in this regard.

We're in the same boat. So sad that a hard-core, old-school battletech fan like myself feels this way

I'm playing Infestation Survival Stories (aka War Z). Its pay 2 win and its getting all my money.

[Pinselborste]

while i wouldnt Play it myself since it would mean even less variety, i still vote yes for the People who want.

[TheForce]

Pinselborste, on 01 July 2013 - 12:25 PM, said:

while i wouldnt Play it myself since it would mean even less variety, i still vote yes for the People who want.

thx

[Killhunger]

Hell yes!

I think stock mechs would bring in a skill requirement that would put things back in the intended direction. In lore, mechs that were customized were rare.

I think this could be abused also however as you would see an abundance of boated stock mechs like the HBK 4P, though the heat would be harder to deal with.

So not only should it be stock but I'd say make the mech choices random and matching on both teams. Limit the number of the larger mechs also.

something like:
8 man

1 Assault, 1-2 heavies, 3-4 Mediums, 2-3 Lights (Or whatever would be most lore fitting)

Then stick you in a mech, or maybe let the team choose prior to dropping. Then the skill would shine.


So yes stock mechs please. Sadly dividing the matchmaking further would be bad, but this might get more of the founders back in and playing again.

I'd play more.

- Kill