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[Peiper]

TheForce, on 29 August 2013 - 01:43 PM, said:

so when is the stock mech queue coming?

They can't even separate the 1st vs 3rd person queues. Why would they give us anything we actually want?

I'd be happy with lobbies. Then we could drop how we want, with who we want. We could make our own stock/planetary leagues if we wanted and make the closest thing to Battletech the video game industry has ever seen. And they could keep the pug-twitchy drops for the newbs. Best of both worlds.

[Sidekick]

Repost from the other thread:

Truth is:

You will not get a stock queue. The target demographic isn´t demanding it.

On a realistic side:

Economically speaking, a stock queue would be benificial for PGI. And not because the "fans want it" aspect.

See MWO as a game. Right now, we have a "deckbuilding" mechanic, you add items and feats to your hand (mech) to aquire a special build. Aquiring these feats is essential, to gain effectivenes you need to pour money into your inventory. Certain decks are effective, others are not. So to be effective, you need to assemble a certain value. If you have a small selection of mechs and a large selection of equipment, you can build most decks, adapting to most metagame changes.

If you take the "building" aspect out of it, you are limiting yourself to a role playing game. You choose a specific charakter. You get this charakter and change only little features (modules). So, to adapt to the metagame, you don´t change a weapon, an engine or a module... you need to aquire another mech.
Sounds expensive? Wait and see.
This mech needs Mechbays. MC only.
You need to play and level the "bad" builds to gain higher skill tiers, making the bonus XP of premium time more valuable.

To balance this, a battle value system would be established, balancing teams not by weight, but by BV. So... playing a bad mech (with poor BV) to nerf the overall strength of the enemy team is important. So, you need to keep a mechbay for a bad mech, just in case. Or several, depending on your tactical choice.

See? The inventory is unlimited. The abilities you bring into battle are limited by your inventory. If a Stock queue would be established, PGI could quickly discouver how expensive this game could get. New mechs mit favorable layouts would become "must buy" instead of "nice to have". Hero Mechs.... good grief, a list of issues.

The game shifts with every patch, every new map, every new balancing round. Stock-Only would turn this change into "my mech was fine, neet to tune it a tad" into "Wow, my mech was good, now it´s utterly garbage"

You ask for a stock mode. I wonder: If we get this, what hells would this imply.

[Solis Obscuri]

This is a really good idea, and would also be a good entry point for new players (potentially good recruiting grounds for units, as well).

[paxmortis]

Yes and it makes much much fun.

We made in the german community a 3025 stockmech event at 08/18. The next one will be 09/15 and of course end of october, We will make again our 3025 stockmech tourney.

This time i hope with the MBV . We testing it during the 3025 stochmech events. Till now it works fine and its much better as a tonnage limit.

[Eleshod]

This entirely depends on what you consider stock. As sarna list TONS of different modified yet stock lore builds.

[paxmortis]

The Stockmechs in MWO as they are build. All are written down at Smurfys.

[Jestun]

Since I can't vote no I'll post it insteadn

No.

[paxmortis]

Its your answer and of course it is okay

My answer:
Time to continue the journey of the 3025 stockmechs. In the 3025 stockmech tourney - season 2 of the german community.
http://mwomercs.com/...urney-season-2/

[Sandpit]

It would be awesome if we had an option to use only stock mechs in certain instances. Of course this implies that we ever get the option to run ANY kind preset conditional matches. I'm sure we will get something like that soon though lol

[3Xtr3m3]

I am curious if the upcoming Pro Phoe + Sabre releases are imbalancing for stock mode?
Those with cash can bring those mechs to a stock only tourney, while others will be waiting months to bring C-bill variants.

[General Taskeen]

paxmortis, on 15 September 2013 - 06:28 AM, said:

Its your answer and of course it is okay

My answer:
Time to continue the journey of the 3025 stockmechs. In the 3025 stockmech tourney - season 2 of the german community.
http://mwomercs.com/...urney-season-2/

But, I don't speak German very well

All I know is; Ich spreche Deutsche nicht so gut & Ich bin Hans.


also... STOCK MODE REVOLUTION!

3Xtr3m3, on 27 September 2013 - 11:14 PM, said:

I am curious if the upcoming Pro Phoe + Sabre releases are imbalancing for stock mode?
Those with cash can bring those mechs to a stock only tourney, while others will be waiting months to bring C-bill variants.

I'm not sure what you mean, there are many stock Mechs in the game, currently, that can compete against those upcoming Mechs. The problem also is how this game mode would work, because it is possible to build 4 exact record sheet duplicates with the Hunchback-4G->4G "Shakir"->5M->5N->6N

Basically if private Matches, were available, where people are playing "stock" I would accept those as "legal" stock Builds, depending on Era chosen - at least if going by using a Mech Assignment Table and rolling 2D6 for what the Mech Lance has available to them. Otherwise I assume a pure random stock mode would simply be selecting an available variant of a Mech in the game.

Edited by General Taskeen, 11 October 2013 - 07:41 AM.

[paxmortis]

Hans thats not a problem i can speak a bit english. I think some could make a stockmech tourney in the international community.

Of course you can use for that the MBV we made.

Srockmech mode for the fun and the Battletech veterans

Edited by paxmortis, 12 October 2013 - 03:35 AM.

[General Taskeen]

paxmortis, on 11 October 2013 - 08:50 AM, said:

Hans thats not a problem i can speak a bit english. I think some could make a stockmech tourney in the international community.

Of course you can use for that the MBV we made.

Srockmech mode for the fun and the Battletech veterans

That link doesn't work, what is the MBV.

[paxmortis]

A self create Mechwarrior Battle Value, what we use for our tourney.

Fix the link above.

Edited by paxmortis, 12 October 2013 - 03:37 AM.

[Roadbeer]

Wow, this is still a thing?

Never mind, I see it was necroed by the OP

Bad form.

Edited by Roadbeer, 12 October 2013 - 06:49 AM.

[paxmortis]

Thank you Sir. If you are a Sir

[General Taskeen]

paxmortis, on 12 October 2013 - 03:34 AM, said:

A self create Mechwarrior Battle Value, what we use for our tourney.

Fix the link above.

Ah, I see. That's pretty awesome! I assume others in English groups are waiting for private matching or selectable stock modes to make setting up these kinds of matches possible. Great that ya'll took the initiative with the current state of the game.

How do you all assign what Mechs each lance gets? Do you use the Mech assignment tables from Era Reports and Tech Readouts?

Edited by General Taskeen, 12 October 2013 - 09:31 PM.

[TychoTheItinerant]

Because when EVERYONE'S driving a terrible mech, it's as if NO ONE'S driving a terrible mech.

[PappySmurf]

I voted HEELLL YES but this game is SO FFFUIINNGG gayYAY I doubt PGI will even consider it unless it was there own great idea.

[paxmortis]

General Taskeen, on 12 October 2013 - 09:28 PM, said:

How do you all assign what Mechs each lance gets? Do you use the Mech assignment tables from Era Reports and Tech Readouts?

In the 3025 stockmech tournament every team has a max. MBV / 10 of 4100 points. The teams can use the points to take every 3025 stockmech they wants. The restrictions are every mech chassis only one times per team and not more as 3 assault mechs per team.

Edited by paxmortis, 13 October 2013 - 01:16 AM.