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[JohnathanSwift]

KONG INTERSTELLAR LEAD BY VASSAGO

So now ECM is useless, it seems missiles are the way to go, even better streaks.


How long do you think it will be til this is rectified?





http://www.twitch.tv...gtv/b/408885882 1:05:00 NGNG drops into an A1 cat drop and eats streaks for breakfast.

At 1:06:40 things start to turn,
As they see the A1 jumping the LURM.
On the shoreline they see the contrail,
Out of the JJ's of the white whale
In their strategy kill the cats first,
but soon they found these mechs were the worst.
They soon noted since ecm was sapped,
That all the A1's were strictly BAP'd.
And as they died on the sandy dune,
They hoped that streakfix will be here soon.

Edited by JohnathanSwift, 27 May 2013 - 02:51 AM.

[Vassago Rain]

Fair and balanced metagaming.

The ECM, it does nothing.

[Alymbic]

Oh you people. I was part of that team that just dropped against you twice, and I have to say, it really wasn't nice to go up against you. If we hadn't capped in both games, we would have been stomped flat. Nicely played gents.

As the light lance leader, that was a horrible team to fight. So we had to choose not to

Edited by Alymbic, 25 May 2013 - 06:42 PM.

[Chavette]

Shame we weren't doing 8s... but we'd probably not get matched anyway.

[Star Colonel Mustard Kerensky]

Vassago Rain, on 25 May 2013 - 06:37 PM, said:

Fair and balanced metagaming.

The ECM, it does nothing.

Everything is fair; nothing is balanced.

Working as intended.

Edited by Astroniomix, 25 May 2013 - 06:54 PM.

[CancR]

Astroniomix, on 25 May 2013 - 06:54 PM, said:

Nothing is fair; nothing is balanced.

Working as intended.

Fix as per PGI's game dev philosophy.

[Vassago Rain]

Meow.



Purrfect towers.

[dudebot]

THEY'RE STREAKING HIM












AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO STREAK ME







OOOH MAAAI GAAAAAAAH

Edited by dudebot, 25 May 2013 - 07:19 PM.

[Huge]

Vassago Rain, on 25 May 2013 - 07:17 PM, said:

There is at least 1 Highlander in this image.

Can you spot it?

[Vassago Rain]

Go, go.

[El Bandito]

You guys would have looked a lot cooler if this was before the May 21st patch.

Now? Meh.

[Vassago Rain]

El Bandito, on 25 May 2013 - 07:38 PM, said:

You guys would have looked a lot cooler if this was before the May 21st patch.

Now? Meh.

Actually, we were testing this way, way before the may 21st patch. But then we needed a raven to go with us.

[Victor Morson]

Hey everybody, I figured I'd weigh in on this because my unit encountered this several times today. If I am correct, ultimately we won 4-2 from our random encounters and in the first one, we had never seen it before.

However, this is insanely powerful, largely not because Streaks are OP (I don't think they are) but rather, when 8 people are using them, that's so much focus fire (that homes) it's devastating. I cannot stress enough that while we beat this, we only did so by exploiting the fact that in order to maximize the focus fire, no lights were in the enemy group to defend their base.

I do not, in fact, believe there is anything we could do to beat this in a straight up fight. However, again, the results were skewed by the lack of lights: 8 Highlander packing regular weapons would have a similar hard-to-beat effect, if they were willing to sacrifice scouts to do so, to be entirely honest. It would require more gunnery skill per-pilot to achieve that kind of "loss less" damage though, which is hard to replicate.

Long story short.. I don't know how to feel about this. I don't believe Streaks are OP even after witnessing this, but they are definitely something to take very seriously and if they're allowed to reach "critical mass" in a swarm, they go from dangerous to "HOLY HELL" really fast.

I don't mind anyone trying new tactics - if something really is broken, it should positively be brought to the light like that. A few of us Aces in Living Legends went around in LPL boat tanks for a week to help push re-balancing and it worked. I found every one of our fights an interesting learning experience and they gave me some things to think about.

If I sound critical here, it's just a frank discussion of your tactic and nothing personal, just making that clear. Again it's a hard one to really judge, because it does feel overpowered but I cannot in good conscience call it overpowered if we beat it most of the time. I think more controlled splatcat testing should come from this, though, as it's very very devastating at the very least.

Anyway, good games guys!

[Victor Morson]

Vassago Rain, on 25 May 2013 - 06:37 PM, said:

Fair and balanced metagaming.

The ECM, it does nothing.

We tried to have one of our scouts stay on the "bubble" outside of your BAP but inside of ECM, but alas, it didn't seem to do much. That's an interaction that I think we need to really test out and get some hard facts on, now.

Like I said, more power to you guys for running some crazy stuff like this. It gets you thinking about things you hadn't considered previously.

[HUcast]

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Yea, It was fun. We don't do this to just exploit the game for wins, we were simply testing, and having massive amounts of fun. Kong does everything we can to have as much fun as possible, thats just the root of it. Sad that the only way to counter the cats is with capping, as the cappers get no money. But then again, 8 mans are a far cry from balance.

Meow!

Edited by HUcast, 25 May 2013 - 07:49 PM.

[Victor Morson]

HUcast, on 25 May 2013 - 07:49 PM, said:

Yea, It was fun. We don't do this to just exploit the game for wins, we were simply testing, and having massive amounts of fun. Kong does everything we can to have as much fun as possible, thats just the root of it. Sad that the only way to counter the cats is with capping, as the cappers get no money. But then again, 8 mans are a far cry from balance.

Meow!

Yep, just watched the video and I'll admit, it's definitely easier to take stuff like this when people are having a blast running it. And yep, it was rough forcing us into caps on those battles - definitely not the ideal solution.

It really, really is hard to deal with. Several people thought it sounded pretty easy to counter until they saw it first hand. Definitely time to hit the planning stage to figure out better ways to not blow up next time we run across you guys

[BillTheTurnip]

Victor Morson, on 25 May 2013 - 07:52 PM, said:

Yep, just watched the video and I'll admit, it's definitely easier to take stuff like this when people are having a blast running it. And yep, it was rough forcing us into caps on those battles - definitely not the ideal solution.

It really, really is hard to deal with. Several people thought it sounded pretty easy to counter until they saw it first hand. Definitely time to hit the planning stage to figure out better ways to not blow up next time we run across you guys

there was a team with 3-4 ddcs and 2 3ls and the ecm did not have a large impact

[Vassago Rain]

BillTheTurnip, on 25 May 2013 - 07:54 PM, said:

there was a team with 3-4 ddcs and 2 3ls and the ecm did not have a large impact

It's the reddit crew. ECM literally does nothing.

[JohnathanSwift]

BillTheTurnip, on 25 May 2013 - 07:54 PM, said:

there was a team with 3-4 ddcs and 2 3ls and the ecm did not have a large impact

Le Reddit tried to ECM wall us but BAP just carpet counters everything.

[The Strange]

HUcast, on 25 May 2013 - 07:49 PM, said:

Yea, It was fun. We don't do this to just exploit the game for wins, we were simply testing, and having massive amounts of fun. Kong does everything we can to have as much fun as possible, thats just the root of it. Sad that the only way to counter the cats is with capping, as the cappers get no money. But then again, 8 mans are a far cry from balance.

Meow!

I find it humorous that you admit the only way to beat it is to cap, but in the screenshot Vassago posted, you had some unfriendly comments after being capped.