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[Private Backside]

Quintt, on 04 June 2013 - 07:23 PM, said:

thank you for disapointing us again, you have half of the biggest davion unit, HHOD, quite unhappy with this and im struggling to keep some of them from uninstalling, literaly.

bad regards,
Quintt 7th Battalion Executive Officer
HeadHunters of Davion

tell them about meaning of "beta test". that should solve your struggling, mr davion officer.

[Corvus Antaka]

Selfish, on 04 June 2013 - 01:49 PM, said:

I'm disappointed at the mech switcharoo. Been waiting on the Orion since it was announced, and it would've been nice to actually have a brawler in the Heavy class. Looks like it's being replaced with a Heavy JJ Treb with an ECM option. Not my cup of tea.

We've also been telling you since Closed Beta that 3rd Person was a bad idea. Guess what? Still a bad idea. Good to hear you're wasting time on it, though.

I want to see some numbers from PGI as too how many people are actually playing 3rd person once it makes it into game. I want to know the truth behind the story they keep telling us - as far as I can tell 3rd person should bring a bunch of twitter & others into this game that never visit the forums but hit download by the millions.

To bad they stripped out the players online counter so we could do some investigating as to how many people will play MWO once it gets 3rd person.

You know what kills anything?

lies.

[EnErGjAiZeR]

Come on Pgi, i want to see the Orion before i go to army

[Seleucus Ontuas]

Quintt, on 04 June 2013 - 07:23 PM, said:

thank you for disapointing us again, you have half of the biggest davion unit, HHOD, quite unhappy with this and im struggling to keep some of them from uninstalling, literaly.

I wonder what other top teams like Kaos and SJaguar will think or do.

And btw, if you listen to ppl that play an hour a day and then flood these forums with complaints, you are doing it wrong. Nevermind the teams that actually push hours a day into the game and bother to adjust after every patch. Im not relly sure PGI knows who to listen to or to ask for feedback from.

bad regards,
Quintt 7th Battalion Executive Officer
HeadHunters of Davion

You know, as part of a team that fights against HHOD at least once a night on our drop nights, as someone who plays at least 9 hours a week, normally more, I have to ask: was that not what you wanted?

I've hated the poptarting meta from day one. Not because I'm bad at it, but because the meta itself was bad. We entered, and stayed for three months, a meta where a brawling Atlas was deadweight; where any heavy mech without jump jets was crap, where the best medium mech was equipping a Gauss and an ERPPC, where mechs were getting one-shotted from 500+ meters out almost every match. And now, Atlases might actually be the best Assaults again. K2s and Jagers aren't getting completely **** on by CTF-3Ds. 8 man teams aren't 4 HGN-732s and 4 CTF-3Ds. So, I ask again: was that not what you wanted?

I could deal with the crazy LRMs and the SRMCats. There were there things I loved to exploit against LRMs: cover, AMS, 180meters. The super hard hitting SRMs, well, they wouldn't hit for **** past 200 meters back then. I solo'd, in my Dragon, a mech considered horrible by most people, an SRMCat. I battered at it with my Medium Lasers and my AC10 from over 200 meters away and torso twisted when it came to shoot at me. But against Poptarts... My Atlases would lose half their weapons on the approach. My Centurions would get legged before I could shoot my SRMs. My Dragon would vaporize when cresting to charge. My Awesomes couldn't compete with their jumping cover. My Jenner would turn a corner and simply cease to exist. And, my Cataphract would jump and trade shots until finally one team lost enough members to feel secure they could push on the other team. Is that what you want? Three more months of only two viable mechs?

That shake, I asked for that. I've been asking for it since March. And though I'm won't speak for my unit, I'll be more than happy to point out that our activity levels aren't nearly what they used to be in February, before this godforsaken meta was spawned. The only thing that makes me sad about this change is that you can actually still poptart. Yes, even with all that shake, the fact of the matter comes down that there's no shake on the way down, so if you shoot at the apex of your flight, you'll have a clear shot. Luckily, it takes skill to do that; it's not easy. But, that should at least keep all the scrubs out of their 732s and 3Ds, and give us an overall healthier game.

You may not have asked for this, but I sure as hell did.

EDIT: Oh yea, I've fought Magician's 8 man team twice over the past few days during 8 man drops. One composition was a mix of AC40 Jagers and PPC Stalkers and the other was as many Large Lasers as he could fit on his mechs. He sure as hell had no trouble adjusting. And for the record, nor did we, when we dropped in our 8 mans.

Edited by Seleucus Ontuas, 05 June 2013 - 12:14 AM.

[PPO Kuro]

I just hope that when they implement 3rd person it doesn't give you to much of an advantage vision wise. My brother heard about it and went on a rant about quitting if they implement it and his 360 targeting being worthless then

I can kind of understand that PGI wants to integrate a 3rd person, they probably hope this attracts more players. Not that I think the kind of people this attracts is something good though....

[Cik]

i see you still intend to pull a smedley

you might want to read about him, since you seem so eager to repeat his pride+fall

also 1-line mention of orion pushback with no explanation, that's about par for the course

it's not even the pushback that's the problem. you don't tell us anything about why, or how. we would be more understanding if you spent a sentence explaining why. put yourself in our position. you've been doing this since we hung off your every word when closed beta started. it gets tiring.

[PeRRaKo]

grayson marik, on 04 June 2013 - 09:20 AM, said:

Oh come on, 3rd PV within 60 days? and you told us not 3 months ago "no line of code is written" ?!?
Bah!
And at the same time, there are things like some group play feature, that was asked for since closed beta and is just some 3 lines of code (match group a vs group 2 without any gapfillers or elorating) ( logic, not GUI) and you still dont have it?

No stock mode, no lobby, no nothing in direction of Battletech and as a balance to the CoD/mouthbreather type of gameplay you so eagerly invent?

This once again shows, that you just took the founders money from all the BT fans and now you keep F... ing with us month after month and feature after feature.

Sorry, but in all honesty: Valuing your hardcore fans would be a good move on your side and on your publishers side and would enable us to digest BULLSH*** ahm features like 3rd person view much more easy.

+1

My thoughts exactly.

Give us lobbies already!!!!

[John Mechlane]

This month is a little dissapointing, but the core game itself is really good, and the people i play with make it a lot more fun. (If i would play solo, i would have stopped a long time ago due to boredom.) The mech switch is a little dissapointing, but it's no reason to stop playing the game.

My biggest problem is 3rd person. The idea should have been dismissed the first time it was mentioned.
It eats up valuable resources to create it, and more to debug/tune it after release...resources that could be used to make other aspects of the game better. Not to mention it further divides the playerbase. (Oh god i hope 3rd person will be on separate servers!)

[HammerMaster]

No Orion!?

Edited by HammerMaster, 05 June 2013 - 04:05 AM.

[Belorion]

Skadi, on 04 June 2013 - 04:37 PM, said:

I was referring to the mech swap... It wasn't trolling in the past it was just PGI making poor decisions that made me face desk

Don't mind him, he is off his meds.

[SgtMaster]

Bryan Ekman, on 04 June 2013 - 08:43 AM, said:

Our drive to launch continues to keep the bulk of our team focused on delivering an exciting MechWarrior experience for all players.


Balancing and Tuning

Jump Jets will receive a weight based shake to add a more realistic feel and help to balance out some of the jump sniping meta game.


Bugs and Stability

A lot of effort has gone into improving and fixing some of the more difficult technical issues, among them the HUD bug (last month). This month we are introducing fixes for some to the more frequent black screen and disconnect issues some players may experience.

Alienate long term fans..?
Find more new 10 year old players..?

Realism:
do not take into account realistic physics such as inertia and momentum + targeting computer and gyro's of 3050...?

Add warping rubber banding + high ping instead of adding world servers...?

Keep smoking your grass and virtual reality = reality...

my 2 cents...

Edited by SgtMaster, 05 June 2013 - 04:13 AM.

[Joseph Mallan]

I found art for the Quickdraw. You can marvel at my mad hacking skillz later.


Thank you for the Sara!

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 05 June 2013 - 04:31 AM.

[Zerberus]

zraven7, on 04 June 2013 - 09:28 AM, said:

Thank you. As far as I'm concerned, you guys proved yourselves right here. I'm not even mad about the third-person stuff.

You won me over right here. I may not always agree with every decision you all make, but you've got me for the life of the game. I'm pretty sure a few others out there agree with me.

Good on ya, guys. :-)

Agreed 100%, the buckets of whine and qq about 3PV (which has been said will be segregated from 1PV), a different heavy next month (Oh Boo-hoo, you were all seriously only playing at all because of the Orion? What a pitiful life you must lead. I recommend more sunlight and fresh air in your diet.), and "not knowing dates" (primarily because you`re too lazy and /or stupid to read single posts by the Devs w/o jamming your wadded up panties so far up your *** you can taste your Tinkerbell nailpolish, because the rest of us have no such problems but the same sources of information) do nothing but tell the Devs (and Me) one important thing about thais community as a whole:

That we are, fiorst and foremost, a comunity of whiny, entitled attention whores that can easily stand being reduced by 50% or more with zero tangible impact to the development or future of the game, because all they do is qq loudly about EVERYTHING the can find, every 2 weeks, but still keep paying. Or have never paid a dime in the first place and probably never will.

Remember, PPgi has your payment history and your player history at their fingertips shopuld they so desire, so they can see though a freaking ******* of the BS that gets posted in these threads... If you want to be respected and taken seriously, then show respect and take your verbal diarrhoes seriously.

In other words, Read, comprehend, post truthfully.. Not Half read, Lie, flame, whine, Lie more, *****, moan, **** until the screen turns white.

[Quintt]

MonkeyAss, on 04 June 2013 - 11:48 PM, said:

tell them about meaning of "beta test". that should solve your struggling, mr davion officer.

Precisely because they know the meaning, they want to uninstall. Its been too many patches, too many times saying "next patch, be patient, they get it right next patch, they will fix it next patch".

It gets to a point when faith in something that is yet to happen just disapears. Now they remove several piloting options from the game with this jump jet nonsense (i hate sniping but i love JJ as a navigational aid), take away one of the most expected mechs ever since its announcement and put in a weight bracket that noone wants and worst of all, UNannounced?!

Beta testing has nothing to do with this issue, the issue here is PGI's lack of clear comunication, lack of comon sense to find balance within the nerfs, instead of the usual hammer smack they do, the fack that they dont listen to the comunity at all (the important comunity anyway, the ones who actually BETA TEST their product). Also, you are trying to talk down to me, you who wares a phrase like "PUG, and proud of it" ?? stick to pugging, leave the forums, you have no diea what you are talking about, ever. And to use your own failed atempt at comunicating with me with an arrogant denotation on your words, here goes my answer : PUGs-cant-beta-test.

Quintt 7BXO
HHoD

[RG Notch]

Zerberus, on 05 June 2013 - 04:52 AM, said:

Agreed 100%, the buckets of whine and qq about 3PV (which has been said will be segregated from 1PV), a different heavy next month (Oh Boo-hoo, you were all seriously only playing at all because of the Orion? What a pitiful life you must lead. I recommend more sunlight and fresh air in your diet.), and "not knowing dates" (primarily because you`re too lazy and /or stupid to read single posts by the Devs w/o jamming your wadded up panties so far up your *** you can taste your Tinkerbell nailpolish, because the rest of us have no such problems but the same sources of information) do nothing but tell the Devs (and Me) one important thing about thais community as a whole:

That we are, fiorst and foremost, a comunity of whiny, entitled attention whores that can easily stand being reduced by 50% or more with zero tangible impact to the development or future of the game, because all they do is qq loudly about EVERYTHING the can find, every 2 weeks, but still keep paying. Or have never paid a dime in the first place and probably never will.

Remember, PPgi has your payment history and your player history at their fingertips shopuld they so desire, so they can see though a freaking ******* of the BS that gets posted in these threads... If you want to be respected and taken seriously, then show respect and take your verbal diarrhoes seriously.

In other words, Read, comprehend, post truthfully.. Not Half read, Lie, flame, whine, Lie more, *****, moan, **** until the screen turns white.

Well if they keep running the game like this we'll see if the game can get by on 50% population or less.

[Zerberus]

RG Notch, on 05 June 2013 - 05:03 AM, said:

Well if they keep running the game like this we'll see if the game can get by on 50% population or less.

Hehe, nice one

But I seriously doubt that will ever happen at this rate, because all I ever see are the exact same people qqing every 2 weeks about something different and usually trivial, but they`re all still here more than 12 months later.... and If they`re qqing now but not playing, then PGI has every right and reason not to care what they think, becasue the game is being developed for the players, not the Forum.-metagamers

Quintt, on 05 June 2013 - 04:56 AM, said:

here goes my answer : PUGs-cant-beta-test.

W
T
F?

What kind of craptastic elitist BS is this supposed to be, and what is it based on?

Pugs don`t play, so they don`t generate telemetry data? Hmm, then how can we drop against them....
Pugs don`t spend as much or more money on teh game as you do? SO why do some own HMs and Miserys....
Pugs dont encounter Bugs and write support tickets as a result? And that`s why our e-mails get answered instantly, right?

Or is it just your preposterous "I dont drop against PUGs becasue I run 8 man exclusively, therefore all PUGs can`t play and are useless filler" elitist ******** attitude that makes you think this, and keeps the vast majority of players from having any sort of respect for theis official Forum, which is generally regarded as ( translated and 2k+ liked quote from a german non-MWO but BT-specific forum) "Full of elitist jerks and newbie-hating born pro gamer wannabes that have the collective mental capacity of a Slug"?

Seriously, most forums I`Ve seen recommend playing the game and completely ignoring the MWO forums, and asinine, tactless, and broadly degrading posts like yours are the entire reason for that.

Edited by Zerberus, 05 June 2013 - 05:20 AM.

[SgtMaster]

Quintt, on 05 June 2013 - 04:56 AM, said:

Precisely because they know the meaning, they want to uninstall. Its been too many patches, too many times saying "next patch, be patient, they get it right next patch, they will fix it next patch".

It gets to a point when faith in something that is yet to happen just disapears. Now they remove several piloting options from the game with this jump jet nonsense (i hate sniping but i love JJ as a navigational aid), take away one of the most expected mechs ever since its announcement and put in a weight bracket that noone wants and worst of all, UNannounced?!

Beta testing has nothing to do with this issue, the issue here is PGI's lack of clear comunication, lack of comon sense to find balance within the nerfs, instead of the usual hammer smack they do, the fack that they dont listen to the comunity at all (the important comunity anyway, the ones who actually BETA TEST their product). Also, you are trying to talk down to me, you who wares a phrase like "PUG, and proud of it" ?? stick to pugging, leave the forums, you have no diea what you are talking about, ever. And to use your own failed atempt at comunicating with me with an arrogant denotation on your words, here goes my answer : PUGs-cant-beta-test.

Quintt 7BXO
HHoD

I approve this post

[Joe Mallad]

Ok... Launch is in late August still right? I mean that wasn't pushed back right?

If launch is still in August and we are not getting ANYTHING related to CW this month? You guys are pushing it real close lol. I though we would at least get to start organizing our Merc units and getting our unit names and members lists accounted for. I mean wasn't that supposed to be phase 1 of CW?

On many many of us were waiting for the Orion this month. I see Ida been punches back 3 to 4 months. Why is that? I bet it because you want to wait for the intro of the clans and makes its Hero version based off of Kerenskys Orion but can't releases that variant till the clans are introduced. Kind of dont want the Clan players to get upset that we IS players get to buy a Clan mech before they get their other toys?

[Belorion]

From the QQ threads about why PGI didn't test that or didn't test this... I think it is safe to assume that PGI is creating a test server to reduce forum QQ.

More testing is never a bad thing. Plus it needs to be in place for Launch, so they may as well test the testing process that will be in place to test the releases before they go live after release date.

[Ngamok]

Omni 13, on 04 June 2013 - 12:31 PM, said:

My catapult C1 has the same hardpoints as the as the base quickdraw. This thing looks to be a gimped (although faster) Orion.

Really, because the Orion has ballistics.