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[Draco Harkins]

[RG Notch]

Shumabot, on 04 June 2013 - 05:30 PM, said:

Stone profit, always making things up to defend PGI. What technical issue could possibly have pushed back a mech implementation that far on a mech with no unique features?

That wasn't an actual question, you don't know anything about the processes involved so your answer would be useless.

My guess is the issue was with the hero variant. My guess is we get a Heavy Metal type deal where they sell the Hero for 2 weeks before the C bill version is available. Check out how much demand there is for the Orion, compared to the meh for the Quickdraw.

[White Bear 84]

Adridos, on 04 June 2013 - 08:50 AM, said:

He must've just mistakingly announced the next heavy mech...
You know, the art is supposed to be done already, only hidden from us.

Does this make the mech... ...Unseen?

[White Bear 84]

The fluff in this thread makes me want to...



So much QQ'ing.

PGI, keep up the good work. Great to see the content updates last week (and the speedy hotfix), loving the firebrand and the missile HSR is great. Cant wait for 12 v 12 and UI.2.0!

[Odanan]

Ninja Thor, on 04 June 2013 - 09:44 AM, said:

I ordered a pizza the other day. The pizza man told me it would come to my house in about 30min. A week later the pizza man shows up with my pizza, after I call him many times asking where my pizza is. I'm supposed to be happy I got the pizza even if it's a week late because I'm not a pizza man?

And you got the wrong pizza.

[Skye Storm]

Fastest growing thread I have ever seen. Aside from the unnecessary comments, yes I am upset we were not notified sooner about the Orion's delay, I am glad to see we will be getting a mech. I am indeed curious about its variants but I can wait until they announce sometime this week. 12vs12 I'm also glad to see in the making, wish it was here sooner but I digress. Lastly I'll add my voice to the firm disgust with Third Person View.
I do my best to stand by the developers of the game that I try to love, there are issues just like any relationship. These issues can be solved with proper communication to and from the community and developers. Q&A's don't really cut it these days and the communities desire to whine about issues they don't like is also not okay. The road to success is paved with failure and hopefully we can all learn from our failure.

TL:DR___ Actually read, don't skim you lazy cat you.

[repete]

Skye Storm, on 04 June 2013 - 06:51 PM, said:

Fastest growing thread I have ever seen...

Akin to the prior growth rates of the previous 3PV and ECM threads. ECM is now largely nerfed (Told you so), and oh look...We're talking about 3PV again.

Edited by repete, 04 June 2013 - 06:56 PM.

[White Bear 84]

Skye Storm, on 04 June 2013 - 06:51 PM, said:

Lastly I'll add my voice to the firm disgust with Third Person View.

This may be a breaker for some - hopefully they will stick to implementing it so that you have the option to drop in matches without 3rd person, with 3rd person or a mix, which i think is what the devs are intending?

If it was compulsory to have a 3rd person mix, this would make A LOT of the player base angry.

We will have to see

[James Montana]

Very well said, Skye. I do think that this is an indicator that a rift exists between what so many long time fans hoped for regarding the next mechwarrior title, and what we know about the road map to release. You're right to underline the importance of communication on this one. It's going to be key in calming those who have had pretty high expectations for the next MW title (me included).

[Sir Roland MXIII]

White Bear 84, on 04 June 2013 - 06:56 PM, said:

This may be a breaker for some - hopefully they will stick to implementing it so that you have the option to drop in matches without 3rd person, with 3rd person or a mix, which i think is what the devs are intending?

If it was compulsory to have a 3rd person mix, this would make A LOT of the player base angry.

We will have to see

Same devs that said this also said we were getting Orions in June.

Food for thought.

Edited by Sir Roland MXIII, 04 June 2013 - 07:11 PM.

[repete]

Sir Roland MXIII, on 04 June 2013 - 07:11 PM, said:

Same devs that said this also said we were getting Orions in June.

How about this?:

http://www.m8ball.co...?answer=6145651

http://www.m8ball.co...?answer=6145660

Edited by repete, 04 June 2013 - 07:16 PM.

[White Bear 84]

Sir Roland MXIII, on 04 June 2013 - 07:11 PM, said:

Same devs that said this also said we were getting Orions in June.

Food for thought.

Quite.

That said, delaying a mech is one thing - going back on their word over 3rd person is another, purely because of the divisive nature of the whole concept of implementing 3rd party. I am sure there are considerably more players out there that can overlook the delay of the Orion than how 3rd person is implemented.

Edit: Now that i think about it i do vaguely remember them saying it was NEVER going to be a feature in the game, i think i just joined the conversation with dessert!

Edited by White Bear 84, 04 June 2013 - 07:17 PM.

[mania3c]

I am really astonished how people can whine over minor changes..badnaming company and developers, raging all over the place..for changing plans in releasing mechs..what..why??

TBH..I liked the change.. I am medium/heavy player..even if I didn't ..i wouldn't rage over it.. arguments here are pretty close to be pathetic (I already bought MC for it is one of my favorite one).. I believe people are just trying to find something..anything to blame PGI and whine like i.diots ..

Honestly.. I loved Orion in every MW game.. and never heard about Quickdraw before..but while I am not sure about art, fast runner heavy with JJ, focusing on energy and missiles...hell..why not.. Maybe Orion would be too similar to current roster of mechs... not sure..but I think it's okey..and also I love surprises..

Edited by mania3c, 04 June 2013 - 07:17 PM.

[repete]

mania3c, on 04 June 2013 - 07:15 PM, said:

...for changing plans in releasing mechs..what..why??

Because some people don't like a repeated pattern of being told one thing and then another thing happening. This is not an isolated event. Do things change? Yes. Has poor communication been previously acknowledged? Yes. Has anything changed? No.

[Quintt]

"press space bar to jump......wait for it....wait for it...DO THE HARLEM SHAKE!!!!!!"



thank you for disapointing us again, you have half of the biggest davion unit, HHOD, quite unhappy with this and im struggling to keep some of them from uninstalling, literaly.

I wonder what other top teams like Kaos and SJaguar will think or do.

And btw, if you listen to ppl that play an hour a day and then flood these forums with complaints, you are doing it wrong. Nevermind the teams that actually push hours a day into the game and bother to adjust after every patch. Im not relly sure PGI knows who to listen to or to ask for feedback from.

bad regards,
Quintt 7th Battalion Executive Officer
HeadHunters of Davion

Edited by Quintt, 04 June 2013 - 09:14 PM.

[mania3c]

repete, on 04 June 2013 - 07:19 PM, said:

Because some people don't like a repeated pattern of being told one thing and then another thing happening. This is not an isolated event. Do things change? Yes. Has poor communication been previously acknowledged? Yes. Has anything changed? No.

I don't understand..not even once I saw official announcement about orion being released in June.

or maybe there was..but I just didn't saw it..

still don't understand what is poor communication here.. and I think you are just proving my point anyway.

[Sir Roland MXIII]

White Bear 84, on 04 June 2013 - 07:15 PM, said:

Quite.

That said, delaying a mech is one thing - going back on their word over 3rd person is another, purely because of the divisive nature of the whole concept of implementing 3rd party. I am sure there are considerably more players out there that can overlook the delay of the Orion than how 3rd person is implemented.

Edit: Now that i think about it i do vaguely remember them saying it was NEVER going to be a feature in the game, i think i just joined the conversation with dessert!

It wasn't. Same with Coolant Flushes.

mania3c, on 04 June 2013 - 07:15 PM, said:

Honestly.. I loved Orion in every MW game.. and never heard about Quickdraw before..but while I am not sure about art, fast runner heavy with JJ, focusing on energy and missiles...hell..why not.. Maybe Orion would be too similar to current roster of mechs... not sure..but I think it's okey..and also I love surprises..

Here's another surprise for you then: Quickdraws are just Catapults with 5 less tons. At least the Orion was in a weight slot that was empty and while similar to an Atlas in layout it is much faster and agile. With the weights between the Quickderp and the Catapult being so small it's going to play almost exactly the same.

EDIT

Amarius, on 04 June 2013 - 07:21 PM, said:

People need to learn to read what being in a beta means.

Devs don't owe you anything, especially reasons about dev decisions.
They don't have to listen to anything you say neither.
They can try and collect datas about anything too. Including "OP" weapons effectiveness or chassis imbalances.
And you don't have any right to whine about them changing schedules. It's their stuff, you haven't paid for it, and they don't have any morale obligation about anyone because of BT ancestral fanboyism or hoards invested in skins and bays or anything.

If you're unhappy, you can leave.
In fact, i even don't understand how they can be so zen about all this stupid hatred and verbal beating.


Oh, and, by the way, to keep in mind : You don't know **** about game design and it transpires in every sentence. Shut up.
*finger pointing offscreen*

So basically if someone is driving a car towards the ocean and they're told thats a bad idea.... that's ok... for them? I mean I get what you're saying but the fact is you are ignoring one half of the coin here.... since this IS beta as you say, why are they prolonging this if they refuse to listen to feedback? If they don't, and the product fails, they've driven the car into the ocean despite our best efforrts, and you're fine with that - encouraging them even...?

I mean, lets not forget this won't be the first time they've driven a product into salt water - DK:F PvP module had this exact pattern of this same developer torpedoing it into oblivion before launch. You want that with MW? No? Then maybe the feedback given isn't so evil perhaps as you claim...

Edited by Sir Roland MXIII, 04 June 2013 - 07:29 PM.

[Theobald Hauser]

Seems "poor communication" means "i don't get from the blue what i want" in those waters.

Edited by Amarius, 04 June 2013 - 07:25 PM.

[kesuga7]

mania3c, on 04 June 2013 - 07:23 PM, said:

I don't understand..not even once I saw official announcement about orion being released in June.

or maybe there was..but I just didn't saw it..

still don't understand what is poor communication here.. and I think you are just proving my point anyway.

yeah i think the community might have formed a hopefull idea or something

but even anyone remember what thread or page mr PGI men said the orion would come out in june?

It would have been nice though and so much money for hero mech (not just kerensky) too

[Sasha Volkova]

YAY LOOK EVERYONE!!!
GUNDAM!!!
Isnt that what everyone wanted??
Its not like we wanted an Orion or anything like that...
Its not like PGI had tons of time to tell us that the Orion would not be the next mech...

So yea anywho - can we atleast expect the ECM variant of this GUNDAM?
Pretty pretty please, with sprinkles on top.