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[Snowcrow]

I want the orion and a 55 ton medium

[Goldhawk]

Oh noooo...
I sense this coming.
From Sarna http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Quickdraw

QKD-5Mr - This version uses ER Medium Lasers in the arms, adds a Guardian ECM Suite, a Targeting Computer, and an Artemis IV FCS. To make room for this new equipment, engineers removed a heat sink and the one-shot missile launcher.

So now there is a mech that might have Ecm and can run as fast as a Dragon. I'm intrigued, yet a bit scared....

[Butane9000]

Here's the available variants based on the timeline: QKD-4G, QKD-4H, QKD-5A, QKD-5M, QKD-5K

QKD-4G - This is the Quickdraws primary stock variant. So this will definitely be in the game.

QKD-4H - This mech has the LRM10 removed and has extra medium lasers placed on the front.

"In an attempt to bring more direct firepower to the 'Mech, the 4H moves the SRM-4 launcher into the rear arc and moves the two rear-facing Medium Lasers into forward firing mounts. Otherwise, the 4H is identical to the 4G model. BV (1.0) = 1,006, BV (2.0) = 1,242^[9]" (from Sarna)

QKD-5A - Similar to the 4H. Unless they choose to do hard point inflation we'll only be seeing one of these 2 variants. Probably this one.

"The 5A makes the Quickdraw a more effective close combat 'Mech. The LRM-10 launcher has been removed and in its place two more forward-firing Medium Lasers have been added, as well as extra heat sinks to help compensate for the increased heat load. BV (1.0) = 1,070, BV (2.0) = 1,196^[10]"

QKD-5K - This is upgraded with Star League enhancements. Namely Ferro-fibrous armor and Endo Steel chassis. Otherwise it remains a copy of the 5A. Not sure if we will see this or the 5M.

"The 5K Quickdraw is upgraded using Star League technology. The 'Mech carries the same weaponry as the 5A model. The heat sinks have been upgraded to double heat sinks and the armor carried is Ferro-Fibrous armor, giving the 5K superior armor protection to the 5A model, with no added weight. BV (1.0) = 1,170, BV (2.0) = 1,265^[8]"

QKD-5M - Again a refit of the 5A. This time with Ferro-Fibrous, Double Heat Sinks and C.A.S.E. While this does come with DHS it doesn't change the hard points at all.

"Another basic upgrade of the Quickdraw utilizing Star League technology, the 5M replaces the SRM-4 launcher with a one-shot Hovertec SRM-4 Launcher. The armor has been upgraded to Kallon FWL Special Ferro-Fibrous and the 'Mech uses double heat sinks for better heat dissipation capabilities. The 'Mech has also had CASE added to protect against ammunition explosions. BV (1.0) = 1,142, BV (2.0) = 1,237^[11]"

So I'm not entirely sure which variants we'll see.

[Anony Mouse]

Bloodweaver, on 09 June 2013 - 12:44 PM, said:

I see what you mean, but to be honest, I think the new version just plain looks better. Even more to the point, it's still recognizably a Quickdraw.

It doesn't look anything like a Quickdraw that was my point. The iconic points on a quickdraw are the stubby arms ,also the source of its name cause it looks like a gun fighter about to draw,


the other iconic bit being the head and cockpit, the original looked like early spaniard armor almost. The new has nothing in common. The release image has to much in common with too many other models to be recognizable as a quickdraw. Its almost like something between a Grasshopper and an Archer.

[Cromwill]

MavRCK, on 10 June 2013 - 12:22 AM, said:

My projections of this mech:

1) many people will run XL engines and it will die very quickly like a dragon
2) the center torso protrudes like the highlander and it will die very quickly like a dragon
3) the shoulders are too small to shoulder damage and it will die very quickly like a dragon
4) people will boat 3 to 4 ppcs, but it still will have an XL engine and die very quickly like a dragon
5) it's 60 tons like the dragon and will die very quickly like a dragon



<3

You have never met a good dragon pilot

[Belorion]

Goldhawk, on 10 June 2013 - 06:13 AM, said:

Oh noooo...
I sense this coming.
From Sarna http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Quickdraw

QKD-5Mr - This version uses ER Medium Lasers in the arms, adds a Guardian ECM Suite, a Targeting Computer, and an Artemis IV FCS. To make room for this new equipment, engineers removed a heat sink and the one-shot missile launcher.

So now there is a mech that might have Ecm and can run as fast as a Dragon. I'm intrigued, yet a bit scared....

available in 3070... A tad early to start worrying about it. I would table your concern till 2033 when PGI releases it.

[Stonefalcon]

There seems to be a mistake here. It's spelt A-N-N-I-H-I-L-A-T-O-R, not Quickdraw

[Dirty Old Man]

Featherwood, on 05 June 2013 - 12:03 PM, said:

Not impressed, though still way better that original art from 80s. Just another one humanoid mech, but this one is kind of faceless.

P.S. Can anyone read those chinese characters on the left thigh?

Its direct transaction means " High Noon"......hahahaha

or " Dead Right Noon" or " Precisely Noon" which ever way u wanna slice it...

[Inkarnus]

Stonefalcon, on 10 June 2013 - 09:46 PM, said:

There seems to be a mistake here. It's spelt A-N-N-I-H-I-L-A-T-O-R, not Quickdraw

u mean G-A-U-S-Z-I-L-L-A

but still convinced that the only reason to put in the quickdraw would be that ecm
or more depressing he wont sell after some other mechs are released

[P e n u m b r a]

MavRCK, on 10 June 2013 - 12:22 AM, said:

My projections of this mech:

1) many people will run XL engines and it will die very quickly like a dragon
2) the center torso protrudes like the highlander and it will die very quickly like a dragon
3) the shoulders are too small to shoulder damage and it will die very quickly like a dragon
4) people will boat 3 to 4 ppcs, but it still will have an XL engine and die very quickly like a dragon
5) it's 60 tons like the dragon and will die very quickly like a dragon



<3

wrong, as a ppc boat it does not have anatomy advantages the C1 dragon catapult or firebrand has so why use it for that? you forget it has missile slots so unlike the dragon it will probably end up a fast lrm heavy bit like the loki or a heavier cent 9a... stick to building that teir list months after competitive play when the theory is done for you.

Edited by Le0yo, 11 June 2013 - 03:13 AM.

[MavRCK]

Le0yo, on 11 June 2013 - 02:55 AM, said:

wrong, as a ppc boat it does not have anatomy advantages the C1 dragon catapult or firebrand has so why use it for that? you forget it has missile slots so unlike the dragon it will probably end up a fast lrm heavy bit like the loki or a heavier cent 9a... stick to building that teir list months after competitive play when the theory is done for you.

So useless...

i realize you're best at anger management issues, but irony is a forte too... you're a brit.. sheesh

[P e n u m b r a]

so "usless" its funny you mention "irony" yet your whole response is ironic, just a personal insult and some racism no attempt to justify your poor prediction pretty useless huh, the mechs weapon hard points are a completely different matrix to a dragon how the hell do you miss that, you are not stonewall...

Edited by Le0yo, 11 June 2013 - 05:06 PM.

[Carlhosan]

My CN9-D runs with xl300 / ac10 / 2 mid lasers / 2 streak srm
I hope i'll can put a xl300+ / ac20 (arm) / 3 mid lasers (at least 2 in a arm) and some missiles in this Quickdraw.

with XL engine you need to run and hide, sneak and punch from behind, full speed most of the time. A 60 tons xl mech, standing to aim, it's a dead one.

[P e n u m b r a]

I would just play around building a catapult with missiles / energy weapons but go off the dragon engine speed rating, you can combine the two and fill in the blanks to get an idea what you should be able to build. it looks like a duo missile slot in the side torso and one on the CT with energy slots spread in LT and the arms you can get a standard 300+ you can get some nice srm variants out of it however srm do need a little buff before you see more use from them it might be interesting rolling LRMs on this with a XL however.

[Strum Wealh]

Carlhosan, on 11 June 2013 - 05:23 PM, said:

My CN9-D runs with xl300 / ac10 / 2 mid lasers / 2 streak srm
I hope i'll can put a xl300+ / ac20 (arm) / 3 mid lasers (at least 2 in a arm) and some missiles in this Quickdraw.

with XL engine you need to run and hide, sneak and punch from behind, full speed most of the time. A 60 tons xl mech, standing to aim, it's a dead one.

None of the timeline-available Quickdraw variants carries any ballistic weapons.

In fact, the only canonical Quickdraw to carry ballistics, the J***d-era QKD-8X created by carries them as hand-held weapon options (much as a human infantryman might carry a rifle or SMG).

As such, it seems highly unlikely that any of the Quickdraw variants implemented by PGI (other than a potential Hero variant) would be able to mount any ballistic weapons.

[Carlhosan]

Strum Wealh, on 11 June 2013 - 05:41 PM, said:

None of the timeline-available Quickdraw variants carries any ballistic weapons.

In fact, the only canonical Quickdraw to carry ballistics, the J***d-era QKD-8X created by carries them as hand-held weapon options (much as a human infantryman might carry a rifle or SMG).

As such, it seems highly unlikely that any of the Quickdraw variants implemented by PGI (other than a potential Hero variant) would be able to mount any ballistic weapons.

I see.
QKD-8X it's the only chance. But in 3067.

Edited by Carlhosan, 11 June 2013 - 08:53 PM.

[Strum Wealh]

Carlhosan, on 11 June 2013 - 08:52 PM, said:

I see.
QKD-8X it's the only chance. But in 3067.

QKD-8X makes its debut in 3073.

Also, a hand-held AC/20 would weigh a minimum of 15 tons (14 tons for the gun, plus (at least) 1 ton for ammo), or more if one wanted additional ammo or any armor to protect the assembly.

The Quickdraw, as a 60-ton 'Mech, could only lift up to 6 tons, or up to 12 tons if (like the QKD-8X) outfitted with TSM; "Per the ’Mech Lifting Capabilities rule, a ProtoMech or ’Mech unit may only carry a single Handheld Weapon that weighs up to 10 percent of the unit’s own total weight (20 percent, if the unit mounts operating Triple-Strength Myomer)".
It wouldn't be able to carry an AC/20, in any case.

Edited by Strum Wealh, 12 June 2013 - 06:23 AM.

[InRev]

Looks like they went with the 4G, 4H and 5K.

Curious to see the hardpoint differences between the 4G and 4H, considering their stock loadouts are identical

Edited by InRev, 12 June 2013 - 10:50 AM.

[mania3c]

just leaving it here:

http://mwomercs.com/...heavy/quickdraw

[GizmoGecko]

Guessing the 4H could have extra lasers on the arms instead of 3 or 4 on the RT, extra missile slots, different engine size limit or different turning speeds and such; I don't think there are any significant variables to differ it from the 4G though.



I'm a big fan of a 'mech with arm mounted lasers though! Highlander had a baby !

Edited by GizmoGecko, 12 June 2013 - 11:04 AM.