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[Slopey]

Kattspya, on 18 June 2013 - 10:00 AM, said:

Where are all the man hours going? UI 2.0 is nothing but mockups everything else is "post launch" and balancing, the actual act of which takes about five seconds per entry, is not happening. What is PGI doing?

[DeathofSelf]

Big things are coming guys!™ We Promise!™ Soon!™

[Mudhutwarrior]

Maybe these guys watch the news and know the possibllty of their release date is remote during WW3 so why bother. Better to fake it and pull some more paychecks to buy canned goods. I'm not spending anymore money here, Just MRE's and 5.56 from here on. Your on your own guys, good night.

[El Bandito]

How the **** did the increased heat for Large Pulse Laser get approved? Hang the Balance Director!

Edited by El Bandito, 18 June 2013 - 10:33 AM.

[HybridTheory]

DCM Zeus, on 18 June 2013 - 08:45 AM, said:

Jump jet fix?????

So people still going to be nauseated jump jetting?

wtf is the point of the quickdraw's jjing around if your puking on the way up?

Good work PGI, you listen oh so well.

They do listen... I don't see any issue with the jump jets as they are. Maybe a very small reduction in the jitter but it is not that hard to use. Even if you feel like being a silly pop tart it is still do-able.... maybe have a couple of beer before jumping then you won't notice it as much

Though I am curious why no changes to the heat scale system that were discussed regarding "boating" mechs. I know many many people have said they don't think it is the right answer ( I agree... having a different system for every weapon in game is needlessly confusing and likely even more unbalancing than things are currently) however no mention of this in the patch notes one way or the other (even maybe just a little notice that it is still being looked into would be nice.)

In any case... looking forwrad to giving the patch a try... and to take a Quickdraw for a spin... though displeased at the lack of the Orion... I was told the factory I bombed from orbit was the Quickdraw... NOT the Orion... someones got some explaining to do!!!

[42and19]

One thing that is nice about patches is that they can be....patched again.

I think one of the major issues with all mmos with pvp elements is that the people who tend to give feedback on the forums tend to be pissed off about something because they started loosing; and typically they try to blame a perceived unbalanced rather than shifting their tactics accordingly. I've seen a lot of game go through waves of "balancing" that weren't really balances but really just the developers trying to react to community feedback. And since that community feedback is......biased. The game ends up in shambles. I see that happening here.

I guess what I am trying to say is that this game is still in development. In fact the devs have said that this game will ALWAYS be in development. So it is our job as a community as a whole to try to give the best UNBIASED feedback we can.

[El Bandito]

Alexandros Arcano, on 18 June 2013 - 10:02 AM, said:

What confuses me about JJ shake is the way the 'giro' works just fine when you are stomping around doing 50Kph in a 100 tonne Mech with no problems at all, yet taking to the air in a nice linear, stable fashion causes your reticule to bounce around. Strangely I'm reminded of a previous itteration of MW when I used a force feedback joystick that shook when you used JJ. Mind you it jerked from side to side when you walked too.... Kinda makes me a bit nostalgic for Microprose / Microsoft, which I never thought I would say.

Mech gyro does not work in the air. Read the lore.

Edited by El Bandito, 18 June 2013 - 10:05 AM.

[TanE]

Garth Erlam, on 18 June 2013 - 08:24 AM, said:

Give me a Q! Q!

Give me a U! U!

Give me an I! I ....

[Appogee]

Lostdragon, on 18 June 2013 - 10:00 AM, said:

I thought that too until my wife looked at the screen for about 2 seconds while I was using them and turned green. I thought people were blowing it out of proportion because they don't bother me at all but she couldn't stand to look at the shaking effect.

I have frequently felt nauseous playing FPSers. The UNREAL engine seems to do it to me most.

But the JJ shake in MWO (and also MWLL) don't bother me in the least. The nausea must be a very individual reaction.

For those who do get nauseous playing, I found that ginger (sugar-coated fruit lumps, or ginger beer) solved my problem.

Edited by Appogee, 18 June 2013 - 10:07 AM.

[Felicitatem Parco]

He shouldn't have asked for Q! Q!

[Kattspya]

DeathofSelf, on 18 June 2013 - 10:03 AM, said:

Big things are coming guys!™ We Promise!™ Soon!™

It's not a lie because big things are always coming.

Jesus wept

[Deathlike]

Rebas Kradd, on 18 June 2013 - 10:00 AM, said:

Garth, speaking as one of the least demanding posters on this forum, your mention of July automatically has people thinking October at this point. The development of this game has been one long unbroken chain of drastically missed deadlines almost without explanation. I'm honestly not sure how you could explain such an unusually disproportionate number of missed deadlines without undermining consumer confidence, but at this point, confidence seems so low anyway that you might as well.

Wishful thinking: The product of smoking a little too much weed.

As for a challenge...

I CHALLENGE PGI to USE LPL ONLY IN ANY MECH OF THEIR CHOICE. I'll probably end up in a Quickdraw with LL, PPCs, and ERPPCs... so, FEEL FREE TO SHOW UP WITH LPL!!!!

[Steel Will]

Nicholas Carlyle, on 18 June 2013 - 09:51 AM, said:

By the way, I love how Garth KNOWS the patch is terrible, basically admits it. And then says "HEY BUT GUYS, LOOK, JULY!".

Good lord.

[El Bandito]

Lostdragon, on 18 June 2013 - 10:00 AM, said:

I thought that too until my wife looked at the screen for about 2 seconds while I was using them and turned green. I thought people were blowing it out of proportion because they don't bother me at all but she couldn't stand to look at the shaking effect.

Wives always turn green at video games.

[Alexandros Arcano]

El Bandito, on 18 June 2013 - 10:05 AM, said:

Mech gyro does not work in the air. Read the lore.

Right, I forgot that a spinning metal disc is adversly affected by 'air time'.

[LoveLost85]

Spoiler

Garth Erlam, on 18 June 2013 - 08:24 AM, said:

Servers will be coming down at 10am PDT and will return by (at least) 1pm PDT. I will be updating this topic as things happen, so stay tuned!

PATCHNOTES:

UPDATE

Give me a Q! Q!

Give me a U! U!

Give me an I! I .... don't want to do that any more. I want to stomp around in a new 'Mech. F.Y.I. I was spelling "Quickdraw", which is the new 'Mech.
This heavy 'Mech weighs in at 60 tons and likes long walks on the beach, as long as there is glorious 'Mech combat at the end of that beach.

What happened to the Orion? The factory had some issues with orbital bombardment... production of the Orion will resume once the factory can be rebuilt. These 'Mechs don't just grow on trees, you know.

Which reminds me of a joke. If a tree falls in a forest... you must not be playing MWO.

We also added a new Champion 'Mech and made it a trial at the same time. The HBK - 4P( C ). A nice loadout at a good price with a 10% XP boost. Try it then buy it.

Design is tweaking weapon numbers, so read on and if you think this patch is small, all I can say is enjoy the calm before the storm because big things are aligning for July.

Many, many, things.

See you on the Battlefield

Matt Newman


Content



New Battlemechs

Quickdraw QKD-4G

• Tonnage: 60
  
• Engine: 300
  
  • Top Speed: 81 kph
    
  • Max Engine Rating: 360
• Torso Movement:
  
  • 100 degrees to each side.
    
  • 25 degrees up and down.
• Arm Movement:
  
  • 35 degrees to each side.
    
  • 40 degrees up and down.
• Armor: 256 (Standard)
  
• Internal Structure: Standard
  
• Weapons & Equipment:
  
  • Left Arm: Medium Laser
    
  • Left Torso: LRM 10
    
  • Center Torso: SRM 4
    
  • Right Torso: Medium Laser x2
    
  • Right Arm: Medium Laser
• Hardpoints:
  
  • Left Arm: 1 Energy
    
  • Left Torso: 1 Missile, 1 AMS
    
  • Center Torso: 1 Missile
    
  • Right Torso: 2 Energy
    
  • Right Arm: 1 Energy
• Heat Sinks: 13 Single
  
• Jump Jets: 5 (7 Max)
  
• ECM Capable?: No
  
• Module Slots: 2
  
• Quirks: +33% arm movement speed

Quickdraw QKD-4H

• Tonnage: 60
  
• Engine: 300
  
  • Top Speed: 81 kph
    
  • Max Engine Rating: 360
• Torso Movement:
  
  • 90 degrees to each side.
    
  • 20 degrees up and down.
• Arm Movement:
  
  • 30 degrees to each side.
    
  • 35 degrees up and down.
• Armor: 256 (Standard)
  
• Internal Structure: Standard
  
• Weapons & Equipment:
  
  • Left Arm: Medium Laser
    
  • Left Torso: LRM 10
    
  • Center Torso: SRM 4
    
  • Right Torso: Medium Laser x2
    
  • Right Arm: Medium Laser
• Hardpoints:
  
  • Left Arm: 1 Energy
    
  • Left Torso: 2 Missile, 1 AMS
    
  • Center Torso: 1 Missile
    
  • Right Torso: 2 Energy
    
  • Right Arm: 1 Energy
• Heat Sinks: 13 Single
  
• Jump Jets: 5 (5 Max)
  
• ECM Capable?: No
  
• Module Slots: 2

Quickdraw QKD-5K

• Tonnage: 60
  
• Engine: 300
  
  • Top Speed: 81 kph
    
  • Max Engine Rating: 360
• Torso Movement:
  
  • 90 degrees to each side.
    
  • 20 degrees up and down.
• Arm Movement:
  
  • 30 degrees to each side.
    
  • 35 degrees up and down.
• Armor: 286 (Ferro-Fibrous)
  
• Internal Structure: Standard
  
• Weapons & Equipment:
  
  • Left Arm: Medium Laser
    
  • Left Torso: Medium Laser x2
    
  • Center Torso: SRM 4
    
  • Right Torso: Medium Laser x2
    
  • Right Arm: Medium Laser
• Hardpoints:
  
  • Left Arm: 1 Energy
    
  • Left Torso: 2 Energy, 1 AMS
    
  • Center Torso: 1 Missile
    
  • Right Torso: 2 Energy
    
  • Right Arm: 1 Energy
• Heat Sinks: 17 Double
  
• Jump Jets: 5 (5 Max)
  
• ECM Capable?: No
  
• Module Slots: 2

New Champion Battlemech

Hunchback HBK-4P( C )

• Tonnage: 50
  
• Engine: 260
  
  • Top Speed: 84.2 kph
    
  • Max Engine Rating: 260
• Torso Movement:
  
  • 120 degrees to each side.
    
  • 16 degrees up and down.
• Arm Movement:
  
  • 40 degrees to each side.
    
  • 28 degrees up and down.
• Armor: 338 (Standard)
  
• Internal Structure: Endo-Steel
  
• Weapons & Equipment:
  
  • Head: Medium Laser
    
  • Left Arm: Medium Laser
    
  • Right Torso: Medium Laser x6
    
  • Right Arm: Medium Laser
• Hardpoints:
  
  • Head: 1 Energy
    
  • Left Arm: 1 Energy
    
  • Left Torso: 1 AMS
    
  • Right Torso: 6 Energy
    
  • Right Arm: 1 Energy
• Heat Sinks: 18 Double
  
• Jump Jets: 0 (0 Max)
  
• ECM Capable?: No
  
• Module Slots: 1
  
• 10% XP Bonus.

Cockpit Items

• Spider Statue.

Maps

• Slight change to out of bounds location in River City (and River City Night) near upper city capture base to allow 'Mechs walking within visual city limits to not be considered out of bounds. Mini-map updated accordingly.
  
• Completed art beautification pass and asset optimization pass on Caustic Valley.
  
• Updated lighting in Caustic Valley - Extended fog distance, Extended depth of field distance, increased cloud layer fog amount, added fog pools to tailing ponds, general sunlight and ambient light tweaks.

Gameplay



Weapons

• Flamer damage increased to 0.7 (up from 0.4).
  
• Machine Gun damage increased to 0.1 (up from 0.08).
  
• Pulse Laser Normalization (See Command Chair post on this).
  
  • Small Pulse Laser damage up to 3.4 (up from 3.0) and heat lowered to 2.4 (down from 3.0).
    
  • Large Pulse Laser damage up to 10.6 (up from 10.0) and heat increased to 8.5 (up from 7.3).

Bug Fixes

• Extended view distance on many buildings on River City to solve problem where low spec machines were seeing through buildings or buildings were disappearing completely potentially revealing hidden 'Mechs.
  
• Fixed various level stuck bugs.
  
• Fixed some issues that were occurring in the Front End.
  
• Made more improvements to the bandwidth costs.
  
• Fixed a few crash issues some users were having.

General

• Improved Lance and Team order icons for better visibility on the compass, mini-map and battlegrid.
  
• The F9 button displaying FPS and location has been removed and is being reworked.

We thank you for your patience and we look forward to seeing you on the battlefield!


- The MechWarrior® Online™ Team

what. in. the. ****...

Edited by Destined, 18 June 2013 - 03:40 PM.
long post clean up

[HybridTheory]

Deathlike, on 18 June 2013 - 10:06 AM, said:

Wishful thinking: The product of smoking a little too much weed.

As for a challenge...

I CHALLENGE PGI to USE LPL ONLY IN ANY MECH OF THEIR CHOICE. I'll probably end up in a Quickdraw with LL, PPCs, and ERPPCs... so, FEEL FREE TO SHOW UP WITH LPL!!!!

I've used LPL before they WERE fine... not sure if I will use them now though

[AtomCore]

where is HSR fix for lasers?

[Olrikus]

Well, It could be worse. Otherwise I say that it is hard to expect more from freeborns. Or they have a plan in mind.

[Demos]

42and19, on 18 June 2013 - 10:04 AM, said:

One thing that is nice about patches is that they can be....patched again.

I think one of the major issues with all mmos with pvp elements is that the people who tend to give feedback on the forums tend to be pissed off about something because they started loosing; and typically they try to blame a perceived unbalanced rather than shifting their tactics accordingly. I've seen a lot of game go through waves of "balancing" that weren't really balances but really just the developers trying to react to community feedback. And since that community feedback is......biased. The game ends up in shambles. I see that happening here.

I guess what I am trying to say is that this game is still in development. In fact the devs have said that this game will ALWAYS be in development. So it is our job as a community as a whole to try to give the best UNBIASED feedback we can.

Whats about some improvements then?
Do we see an increase of SRM damage by 0.25 to see, if there is room for another increase?
Do they reduce the cone of LBX by another 10% to see, if the usage of LBX increase?
Maybe a slight reduction of JJ shake?

After four weeks they increased the damage of MGs and flamers. Sorry, we need more frequent adjustment for all/most weapons. At least every two weeks, also every patch.