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[Phantomime]

bawaahahaha! awesome. I play EVE and goon is hilarious. but so long as there is no in-game numbers advantage, its fine. Im sure the Designers have found some way to counter-balance one side having an overwhelming population advantage. If not, house affiliations are purely a fluff thing as opposed to some sort of territory control system.

regardless, Goon is powerful in EVE because there is no system of balance in place. Space is very unfair and unforgiving - knowing this, bring LOTS if not ALL of your friends to the fight. Goon does this.

[Adridos]

The Mittani, on 09 June 2012 - 02:37 AM, said:

Entirely true... in 2006.

Then why did you answer: "You have no idea what you're talking about." previously?

It was true and it is still a signature of your goonswarm, it doesn't matter if it changed. If you call something a Goonswarm, you named yourself: "A bunch of people swarming others with inferior equip, but higher numbers." If you don't like people looking at you like that, then change the name, otherwise you're just trying to leech success of your predecessors.

Oh, and you've got no idea what you're talking about regarding: "Internet robot games: serious business."

Battlemechs are not robots, go back to school, or find a dictionary. Robot does things by himself (programmed), while the mech is the same as a tank, it just walks and has some few other minor details different.

Edited by Adridos, 09 June 2012 - 02:50 AM.

[The Mittani]

Adridos, on 09 June 2012 - 02:47 AM, said:

Then why did you answer: "You have no idea what you're talking about." previously?

It was true and it is still a signature of your goonswarm, it doesn't matter if it changed. If you call something a Goonswarm, you named yourself: "A bunch of people swarming others with inferior equip, but higher numbers." If you don't like people looking at you like that, then change the name, otherwise you're just trying to leech success of your predecessors.

You have almost 3800 posts. The mind recoils in horror.

[Serevn]

This is a tough opponent Adridos, I would be careful. (don't let him make it personal)

EDIT: No infighting between fellow members of House Liao please. *fears becoming reality*

Edited by Serevn, 09 June 2012 - 02:55 AM.

[Name136774]

What? Goons and Capellans? Oh my god, I love this game allready. I would love to kill some of that ********.
Goons are like insects... like the disease.

Hey Mittani, what about tell us about greatest goon victory in EVE ever?
Yes, I mean the BoB incident in 2009. Tell to everyone here, how you won the war agains BoB - it's very interesting story... (that year many players leave EVE, not because they lost against goons... but because how goons won).

[ChaosGrinder]

In EvE, goons are about to capsize the system. No bounds will, in the end, fail. It´s like the cancer that´s killing B, just there is no chemo .

@ Phantomime : No matter how much friends you bring, how much dreads, Motherships and Big F*cking Guns you have, the Goons will at least bring three dozen more and blast you out of space. Neither Ev0ke nor Bricksquad is big enough to seriously sratch the goons Territory.

[Adridos]

The Mittani, on 09 June 2012 - 02:50 AM, said:

You have almost 3800 posts. The mind recoils in horror.

Comes with being here from the day 1 and posting from the 2nd.

Also, you're a leader of an EVE Online corporation. That estimates a lot of time spent in a game that is one of the longest MMOs out there (nothing against EVE, so don't make me go into details).

Edited by Adridos, 09 June 2012 - 02:58 AM.

[Serevn]

eRSkaarj, on 09 June 2012 - 02:52 AM, said:

What? Goons and Capellans? Oh my god, I love this game allready. I would love to kill some of that ********.
Goons are like insects... like the disease.

Hey Mittani, what about tell us about greatest goon victory in EVE ever?
Yes, I mean the BoB incident in 2009. Tell to everyone here, how you won the war agains BoB - it's very interesting story... (that year many players leave EVE, not because they lost against goons... but because how goons won).

You should spend more time worrying about how the combo would make FedSun life terrible

[The Mittani]

eRSkaarj, on 09 June 2012 - 02:52 AM, said:

What? Goons and Capellans? Oh my god, I love this game allready. I would love to kill some of that ********.
Goons are like insects... like the disease.

Hey Mittani, what about tell us about greatest goon victory in EVE ever?
Yes, I mean the BoB incident in 2009. Tell to everyone here, how you won the war agains BoB - it's very interesting story... (that year many players leave EVE, not because they lost against goons... but because how goons won).

I'd be delighted to:

http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/64347

However, 2009 was a long time ago. We've since killed BoB respawns a couple of times (IT, Raidendot) and control the western half of the galaxy, which is probably a bigger deal than the BoB disband. Not to mention the OTEC cartel.

Hope this helps!

[The Mittani]

Adridos, on 09 June 2012 - 02:53 AM, said:

Also, you're a leader of an EVE Online corporation. That estimates a lot of time spent in a game that is one of the longest MMOs out there (nothing against EVE, so don't make me go into details).

Indeed! This is my alliance: http://evemaps.dotla...warm_Federation

Internet spaceship games are pretty serious too, we can't wait to try out internet robots! We think it'll be a great fit.

[ChaosGrinder]

To dominate half of the world again ?
I think you should change your terms of business. Don´t you think that the "I wanna rule ´em all" thing is used enough ?

And ... if you want to get rid of your pretty bad image, that would help a LOT.

[Name136774]

Serevn, on 09 June 2012 - 02:58 AM, said:

You should spend more time worrying about how the combo would make FedSun life terrible

I looking forward to it

The Mittani, on 09 June 2012 - 02:59 AM, said:

I'd be delighted to:

http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/64347

However, 2009 was a long time ago. We've since killed BoB respawns a couple of times (IT, Raidendot) and control the western half of the galaxy, which is probably a bigger deal than the BoB disband. Not to mention the OTEC cartel.

Hope this helps!

Actually I think the BoB disband is the most important event in EVE ever.
btw: no BoB respawn has ever chance agains you...

[Grimhowl]

I'm not sure how much I believe goons are going to ruin the game. If The Mittani is really their leader, he seems to have been very polite and informative when dealing with someone who has done nothing but talk **** about his organization the entire time.

Additionally, pretty much everyone but Adridos has acted reasonably when dealing with the Goons who have spoke up as well.

It really does make me curious what these goons did to Adridos in the past to make him so mad. I can't see him throwing out all these accusations purely on things he read rather than experienced first hand. That would be asinine.

[Adridos]

ChaosGrinder, on 09 June 2012 - 03:15 AM, said:

To dominate half of the world again ?
I think you should change your terms of business. Don´t you think that the "I wanna rule ´em all" thing is used enough ?

There's not so much to dominate for them.

The community warfare is centered around minor skirmishes of houses (to stay true to the lore), so no house liao owning half the IS is going to happen (as much as it would be great) and the worlds mercs are fighting over aren' going to be so huge to make someone go and dominate them all.

[ChaosGrinder]

I meant his sig. That is what´s bugging me. A thousand goons shouldn´t be the ones, who say, how the game should look like. They aren´t the only players around. There´s a good saying from Eve : Adapt or die.

[gamesguy]

Adridos, on 09 June 2012 - 02:47 AM, said:

Then why did you answer: "You have no idea what you're talking about." previously?

It was true and it is still a signature of your goonswarm, it doesn't matter if it changed. If you call something a Goonswarm, you named yourself: "A bunch of people swarming others with inferior equip, but higher numbers." If you don't like people looking at you like that, then change the name, otherwise you're just trying to leech success of your predecessors.

Oh, and you've got no idea what you're talking about regarding: "Internet robot games: serious business."

Battlemechs are not robots, go back to school, or find a dictionary. Robot does things by himself (programmed), while the mech is the same as a tank, it just walks and has some few other minor details different.

Because the goons didn't start with goonswarm. You keep thinking goonswarm(Eve goons) are the same as all goons, when they are just a small subset of a much larger community.

The reason the Eve goons swarmed their opponents with hordes of cheaper ships when they first started playing was because that was the only thing they could do under the Eve skill system. It hasn't been true for years yet pubbies like you keep thinking it.

Oh and in Eve you can't change the name of your corporation/alliance, which yet another reason we say you have no idea what you're talking about.

Edited by gamesguy, 09 June 2012 - 03:23 AM.

[ChaosGrinder]

Infinite Hulkageddon tells me otherwise.

[Jeero]

its not about their rep from previous games, what they do on the battlefield is the only rep people in this game will care about

Edited by Jeero, 09 June 2012 - 03:25 AM.

[Gunmage]

Jeero, on 09 June 2012 - 03:24 AM, said:

its not about their rep from previous games, what they do on the battlefield is the only rep people in this game will care about

The problem isn't in their in-game modus operandi. The problem is that they stoop to drafting Goonswarm members from other games to act as cannon fodder and sometimes use IRL espionage to gain strategic advantage. How would you like 100 batchalls per minute from teams consisting entirely from lvl 1 players on Urbies while your corp leader is being pestered by phone prankers?

P.S. Yeah, I did dramatize it a bit. A bit.

[Max Liao]

I have mixed feelings on Goon.

As a former Goon member in some smaller browser games [Astro Empires, Travian, Cyber Nations (or something like that), and a few others I can't remember], I have to say I played with some very nice, capable, friendly, and supportive Goons. The type of Goons who play to win at all costs, but they don't make an effort to grief anyone (except BoB). I don't think there were any that I disliked, and while I never found the eTears threads funny - I'm a just shut up and play the game type of person - most of the people ridiculed there did deserve the embarrassment. Those Goons have my utmost respect and best wishes.

On the other hand, every time I'm come across Goon in any MMO (i.e. WAR, AoC, SWTOR, etc) I always seem to find the griefer a-hole. I have never had a good dealing with them in an MMO. I've tried to talk to a few, and either was either completely ignored or instantly insulted. At least one had the honesty to say, "If you're not in Goon your not a Goon so **** off."

If we get the cordial win at all cost Goons I'm totally cool with it. If we get the griefer a-hole Goons I'll just stay clear and ignore them. Nothing, and I mean nothing will cause me to leave the Capellan Confederation. I'd leave the game before I did that.

And if it comes to Goon -vs- BoB, I choose Goon. At least they're funny.

EDIT: Quick spelling and clarification edit.

Edited by Max Liao, 09 June 2012 - 03:50 AM.