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#661 Sagedabluemage

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 02:35 PM

Wallet! Wut r u doing?!?! Wallet!!!! STAHP!!!!

#662 Pvt Dancer

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 02:58 PM

View PostDirePhoenix, on 02 July 2013 - 02:06 PM, said:

No official word.

HOWEVER, I will reiterate, that just as we've seen with these Unseen, the only thing stopping them from appearing is making new art for them, and PGI's decision to include the chassis (which, this type of decision is largely based on whether or not a chassis tonnage/hardpoint configuration is redundant with another design that is already planned). Don't use the contested art and there is no problem.


Oh, I totally understand that. I will also point out back in 11' when they first started this they never said Harmony Gold was a issue. Just the last 2 years they haven't said yes or no to doing Unseen, which was really frustrating to me. So this really came out of left field and people were saying back then to make them 'Gold Mechs' because people would buy them. It is really cool that PGI is making 4 variants and not making them Champion mechs only when these things really are Golden Eggs. The only thing that really surprised me was that they didn't do the /really/ popular heavy mechs first (Marader or Warhammer would have made this a slam dunk IMO). So it makes me wonder if anything was mentioned about doing them. I did see in the first couple of pages that someone made the point that none of these mechs are the Robotech mechs, so it still could be an issue. Just have to wait and see.

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 04:29 AM

Concerning the Project Phoenix splash screen..... Why is the Shadowhawk the smallest and the Locust not? Might seem like a small detail, but little things like this can speak volumes. Who over at PGI stopped caring?

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#664 SVK Puskin

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 08:00 AM

View Postcdlord, on 03 July 2013 - 04:29 AM, said:

Concerning the Project Phoenix splash screen..... Why is the Shadowhawk the smallest and the Locust not? Might seem like a small detail, but little things like this can speak volumes. Who over at PGI stopped caring?

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Oh man it is only a picture do not judge by picture! Rather check the sizes of the mechs here: http://mwomercs.com/phoenix

#665 Argent Usher

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 11:30 AM

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Yeah and that's fine. A.U.

#666 K o i l

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 11:34 AM

Tried to read the whole thread, but just couldn't handle any more of the whining.

Hey, dumbass....you don't like it, don't buy it. Plain and simply. Move the **** on...how you can get so bent out of shape about this is beyond me. No one is forcing anyone to do anything, ffs.

Anyway, I do have a question...is it possible to buy 2 of these packages?? 2 Overlords for example on one account?

Edited by K o i l, 03 July 2013 - 11:34 AM.


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Posted 03 July 2013 - 11:39 AM

View PostProsperity Park, on 25 June 2013 - 02:22 PM, said:

I think all sales like this should be on the game website's Front Page, and the Home page of the game Client. This is a significant Sale with certain features that will not be available again in the future, so they should be giving it as much exposure as possible. it should be as obvious as possible.

If they made a Clan Founder's Program, it will be called a money-grab. When they sell anything, it will be called a money-grab. So I think we can all agree to just call all MC-related transactions and all direct-sales events as "Money Grabs." Trial-by-Fire sale? Money grab. Hero Mech sales? Money Grabs. We get it - they are asking for money.

What I really do like about the Project Phoenix Money Grab is how much stuff you get for the cash compared to the typical in-game prices. There's a thread where WolvesX broke the pricing down. The $80 Package gets you 32,850 MC worth of measurable stuff + an additional 9 8 Mech Variants that we don't know the MC pricing of. That's a bargain.


Operation Phoenix seems interesting price/content wise, I'm not arguing.
I'll quote someone posting about MWO on gamespot.com forum :
"First thing you notice is the game interface. It looks like is made for advertising and social media not a mech game interface."
Just watch the game main page, 4 slides, all of them are advertisings. I never saw that on any other major MMO beta.

According to me, the problem is : so many resources devoted on hero mechs, paint, camo, customisation etc while at the same time the CORE GAME is still at SKELETON stage.
Come on PGI, the development is soo slow. Game is lacking so much content to be really interesting for the non hardcore fannboy. I'm not even talking about the gui, balance, in game voice etc.
Priority should be creating all the community warfare system. We have enough mechs and maps.
Damn, I had more fun with the defunct multiplayer battetech 3025 beta : a meaning for each match is a great way to keep a player motivated.
Unless you already consider MWO being a niche game with a very limited player base consisted mostly by fans willing to spend money on regular base. In this case, you should make the game subscription based like Eve Online, another niche game.
It would also be a waste for the franchise, but well...

Edited by Benden, 03 July 2013 - 11:41 AM.


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Posted 03 July 2013 - 02:01 PM

View PostPvt Dancer, on 02 July 2013 - 02:02 PM, said:

Any word on the other Unseen? I really do not want to go through 30 pages of BS...

It's worth noting that these are no longer unseen or even reseen as they are once again official part of the battletech universe due to the rights to use them have been reaquired. This also goes for the Wolverine and the Griffin. So there are no legal rights issues at all to include these mechs, but that is not true for the other unseen.

Also note that that while a lot of things can seem resonably safe so is the US legal system not the most reliable one and even minor legal risks are too be avoided.

#669 Steinar Bergstol

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 03:10 PM

View PostThe Sleepy Weasel, on 01 July 2013 - 02:06 PM, said:

Aww, man... all this time I was excited about the Shadowhawk, but I just realized what I really want is the IIC, because, you know...


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It can totally dance!



Ah yes. The Victor Music Industries art designs. Introducing the Funkiest Mechs in Human Space! Strutting their stuff in clubs and discos from Terra to Strana Mechty with the smoothest moves this side of Tukkayid! Ladies and gentlemen, you've already seen the style of the Shadow Hawk! Now marvel at the perferct pose of the Phoenix Hawk!
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The grace of the Griffin!
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And the riveting Rifleman!
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You think you can match the moves of these mechs on the dancefloor? Think again!


Yeah. VMI chose some rather distinctive poses for their art in the 3055 TR, to put it mildly. :rolleyes:

#670 BigBadHarv

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 05:32 PM

god lord what a rip off

#671 tigermaster

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 01:58 AM

is there a list with the full specs for the upcoming mechs somewhere ?

#672 Tor Gungnir

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 02:34 AM

View Postcdlord, on 03 July 2013 - 04:29 AM, said:

Concerning the Project Phoenix splash screen..... Why is the Shadowhawk the smallest and the Locust not? Might seem like a small detail, but little things like this can speak volumes. Who over at PGI stopped caring?

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They are probably roughly the same size in that image as to not lose any details on either of the Mechs. If they were in scale, it'd be hard to see the Locust at all.

#673 Lege

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 06:26 PM

"worked out the legal problems" = we threw some money at them so they let us do it The down side is we have to do a project phoenix to make up our losses. So we are coming for your wallets again and the best part is we are still in beta.

#674 SVK Puskin

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 10:16 PM

View Posttigermaster, on 04 July 2013 - 01:58 AM, said:

is there a list with the full specs for the upcoming mechs somewhere ?


Do not know, use this forum if you have question: http://mwomercs.com/...la-please-read/

#675 mechbane

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 02:34 AM

ok so you now have my money and I need to wait until October the 15th for my goodies.....what do I do while I wait hmmmm

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 04:31 AM

Tell you what I'm doing while i wait. Gonna finish mastering all my current mechs, outfitting them with everything i can so i dont have to keep swapping and changing around. AND SAVING MONIEESS!!

I reckon I can get about a hundred mil before October the 15th. Currently on about 20,000 cbills... :D

#677 CDLord HHGD

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 06:10 AM

View PostTor Gungnir, on 04 July 2013 - 02:34 AM, said:



They are probably roughly the same size in that image as to not lose any details on either of the Mechs. If they were in scale, it'd be hard to see the Locust at all.

might be a good thing.... :D

#678 Agent 0 Fortune

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 05:59 PM

Suggestion:
Make this purchasable with MC (20,000 MC), or add an option that includes MC ($100 package with overlord + 5,000 MC). Basically I like bundled deals, ti makes me feel like I'm getting the most for my dollar and if I knew I could spend MC on promotions like this I wouldn't hesitate to keep my MC bank flush.
Or if this promotion included some MC I'd feel like I didn't have to decide between buying Project Phoenix or buying MC for hero mechs.

This may sound like a silly request, but either one of those choices would make me feel like i'm getting a bargain, and of course the upside for you is you are getting $100 instead of $80 (and I am getting MC which I need for GXP with my mechs)

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 09:05 AM

I remember hearing that all of the money raised from Phoenix would be going back to MWO instead of IGP/MWT. Can anyone show me where this was said?

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 10:20 AM

View PostSteemship, on 06 July 2013 - 09:05 AM, said:

I remember hearing that all of the money raised from Phoenix would be going back to MWO instead of IGP/MWT. Can anyone show me where this was said?

In this podcast:
http://www.nogutsnog...opic,488.0.html
Somewhere in there :)





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