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[Karl Split]

I just wish it was a bit smaller all their recent mechs have screwy sizes by my reckoning.

[Nutlink]

Bad sizing is making me avoid these mechs. It's a damn shame, I wanted a medium hero missile mech so badly too. Hopefully a Trebuchet version comes out sometime in the near future.

[Morang]

Longshank, on 13 August 2013 - 11:17 AM, said:

lol Hero(MC)>Variants (MC) > Variants( CBill) is exactly what has driven my clan to other games. Every since closed beta I feel like PGI has a hand in my pocket nickel and diming me every chance it gets. I'm a person with a well into six figure range income and I'm getting tired of it very fast. I bet if you release a few more © mechs it will make it all better... /eyeroll

Dunno... for me this method of monetisation looks very non-invasive. A week I can wait. Yes, they take their chances because that's what they are working for, but I don't feel much of a pressure from PGI because of need to wait just a week. Perhaps other people feel other way, we're different.

[Koniving]

Banditman, on 13 August 2013 - 10:52 AM, said:

Spoken like someone who has never piloted an Awesome.

You can put 4 Ballistic HP's on the AWS chassis as it is, and no one would pilot it. It has the largest CT, visible from the widest range of angles of any heavy or assault. It's a bloody deathtrap. I have three Mastered AWS chassis. Autocannons aren't going to help it not die when something sneezes in it's general direction.

This mech doesn't have problems with it's offensive capabilities. It can pack a punch. It simply can't survive a sneeze.

You need 1 ballistic hardpoint, or 4.
It would receive a Gauss rifle + 2 PPCs, or 1 PPC + 2 Gauss Rifles, or 2 ER PPCs + 4 MGs + lasers.

Also to the contrary.

I have piloted every Awesome, and owned every Awesome since the release of the Pretty Baby. It was such an incredible mech stock that I kept it that way for 14,000 XP, not even upgrading from SHS.
My KDR on all but the 9M is above 1.0. Poor 9M doesn't live long with an XL.I use it to chase down lights which I confess is foolish but fun. XL = bad, as its side torsos are as wide as an Atlas's. The CT is almost the same as an Atlas too, and thus torso twisting to use your arms to protect your torso is required.

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[Ngamok]

Longshank, on 13 August 2013 - 11:41 AM, said:

No the term micro transactions needs to be understood and used, pay to win has nothing to do with it. Reminder this is BETA not release, we are paying to test mechs. Seriously try that in any other business line. This model almost looks like STO's which is a hair from failure because who wants to spend $30 on a virtual ship, the metrics are clear go read their financial quarterly statements... Read up on F2P and the models used in each, this path they are on is a destructive one where shortly even the hardcore fans will submit and move on. Did you ever ask why more and more items move to MC first, common sense will prevail if you take off the blinders. Consider the Phoenix packages that are months form even being ready, why sell a package that isn't completed unless you are in dire need of $$$...

But your example is fail because excluding the hero mechs, the regular mechs for MC are only a week from being C-Bill mechs. I do not see a problem with it. Just wait 1 more week if you really want to buy them.

Also, the Phoenix package is just that, a package. It's up to 12 mechs, up to 12 mech bays and up to 4 months of premium time.

PropagandaWar, on 13 August 2013 - 11:46 AM, said:

What's funny about this statement is was voted for as the next medium mech.

I know. How the Kintaro beat out the Dervish is beyond me, heh. I voted for the Hoplite.

Edited by Ngamok, 13 August 2013 - 12:17 PM.

[Tahuti]

Two big CT? Damn. I'm playing Dragons for a month and 2.64 K/D ratio is the best I had on any mech. People don't try to disarm me. They always aim at the CT. Losing arms in a Dragon? Nope... Even if I got 3 ac2s on 1 arm? Nope...

Kintaro - Today I saw a player on KTO 20. 6 kills and 600+ dmg. That mech was fast and armed with close combat weapons.

Keep up making another stereotype, guys! I would love to break it challenging myself.

[Samurai Pumpkin]

First cbill income gets cut in half, and now our weekly update is this. I hate PGI so much.

[ackstorm]

Something is wrong here... I can put 4 LRM15's on this KTO-18 and all tubes are accounted for in the right torso and left arm.

This means Smurfy is wrong and the golden boy has little advantage over the other models, or at least the KTO-18. It would seem they might all be able to carry massive amounts of LRMs on them.

[BLUPRNT]

I thought the Victor had a squishee center, and still do.

However the GB makes the Victor feel like an indistructable tank.

I suppose the if both of these are a bit off in survivability than the smaller 55 ton machine is going to feel like death trap. But then again the 60 ton QD can take a heck of beating and goes down with equally detroyed torso sections.

Either way I think both the Victor and KTO could use a review in construction.

I have no issues in regards to how PGI is releasing thier product. Its a business that need to make money and this seems legit to me. They're not forcing my hand if i want one early.

I bought a Victor with MC but will not be purchasing the KTO for the reason of its survival.

[Bishop Steiner]

Wintersdark, on 13 August 2013 - 09:00 AM, said:

I really wanted these, until I saw what the hitboxes on the Golden Boy were like.

Yeah, no. Ah well.

Looking forward to seeing some more variety on the battlefield at least.

I LOVE THE KINTARO!!!!!!

Man, finally something easier to get guaranteed kills on than Catapults and Awesomes! I hunt them down whenever I see them and riddle their CT full of AC10 fire. I try to collect them all!

[Corvus Antaka]

so jumpjets. gigantic frame. only 55 tons.

i want to like it, 55 tons is a fun wieght, but sadly it is just not appealing mainly due to its huge size.

[ackstorm]

I was wrong... I can put 3x LRM20's and 1x LRM15 on this thing. All tubes accounted for.

Edited by ackstorm, 13 August 2013 - 12:52 PM.

[BlackDrakon]

I do think its way to big, if they fix the scale I´ll buy them.

[Xeno Phalcon]

PropagandaWar, on 13 August 2013 - 11:46 AM, said:

What's funny about this statement is was voted for as the next medium mech.

The problem isnt the mech, its the the hitboxes, most of the pople that bought a GB regretted it a LOT so the idea of cranking out three more for MC is just insane. I was looking forward to it, but then it quickly became obvious Kintaro might mean golden boy in japanese, but in MWO it translates to Ford Pinto.

[keith]

sorry pgi u have dumb on the brain. after most ppl saw the wonderful hitboxes on the golden boy who is going to waste their money on this mech. wise up make mechs with better hit boxes and fix the old mech hitboxes.

[Wrenchfarm]

Koniving, on 13 August 2013 - 12:07 PM, said:

Also to the contrary, I have piloted every Awesome, and owned every Awesome since the release of the Pretty Baby. It was such an incredible mech stock that I kept it that way for 14,000 XP, not even upgrading from SHS.
My KDR on all but the 9M is above 1.0. Poor 9M doesn't live long with an XL.I use it to chase down lights which I confess is foolish but fun. XL = bad, as its side torsos are as wide as an Atlas's. The CT is almost the same as an Atlas too, and thus torso twisting to use your arms to protect your torso is required.

Hum, the Pretty Baby comes with DHS already installed. Also, quite possibly one of the worst stock load-outs in the game.

Look, I don't want to be a huge jerk, but if you're going to sit there and claim that a stock PB is some amazing mech, I don't think anyone should really listen to your opinions on mech balance and load outs. The PB comes set-up like trash and only becomes mediocre with a lot of tweaking - trust me, I've got over 100k XP on my Buyers Remorse by now, I've tried everything to make it perform with the $30 I paid.

[Bront]

I find it amusing so many people are upset. It's not like they promised weekly patches every week, and it's not like this release schedule was unexpected (I've been playing since last month, and it doesn't surprise me one bit).

Not every release is going to be for you. Does the Kintaro have issues? Sure. Would I buy it for MC? No. Do I think no one else should have a chance to do so because I wouldn't? No. Spend your money how you wish.

That said, the Golden Boy really poorly done compared to the others. Why the speed nerf? Sure, stock it could be slower, but that doesn't mean you had to remove it's potential.

[Gigaflop]

I am really excited for the Kintaro! I don't have the hero (I like heros but I think I have enough) but this is a medium with arm mounted missiles i.e. SRM brawler. the trebuchet only has one arm mounted launcher. And it is a 55 ton! which is new and exciting. I like the format of "early bird" MC purchase as it offers me a chance to help out. that being said ... the mechs on the beach sale tapped me out... yellow rocks! LOL! Anyway I do have a question: Does anyone have the correct hardpoint configs? I have seen 3 different configs including smurfy which, earlier in this thread, was implied to not have correct tube data. I just gotta know whats on that KTO-20. please help! Cpl Gigaflop, 201st Stryker Regiment

Edited by Gigaflop, 13 August 2013 - 01:23 PM.

[Deathlike]

Martin Oberhofer, on 13 August 2013 - 09:14 AM, said:

well the cbill variants we cant afford anymore....

Well, it wouldn't have been worth it.

The current Hero->MC regular variants->C-bills/Everyone system is fine. It should have started earlier IMO, but that's just PGI's loss.

The thing is that I would've wanted to try it out to complete my "medium mech experience", but given the hitboxes of fail, I'll just end up crushing more of the early adopters for farming purposes.

[PropagandaWar]

Ngamok, on 13 August 2013 - 12:18 PM, said:

But your example is fail because excluding the hero mechs, the regular mechs for MC are only a week from being C-Bill mechs. I do not see a problem with it. Just wait 1 more week if you really want to buy them.

Also, the Phoenix package is just that, a package. It's up to 12 mechs, up to 12 mech bays and up to 4 months of premium time.



I know. How the Kintaro beat out the Dervish is beyond me, heh. I voted for the Hoplite.

I think I voted for the dervish just so i could call it Derpish.