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[Kaijin]

ZeProme, on 26 September 2013 - 03:06 PM, said:

But I'm actually quite surprised that there is someone around the age of 40 - 50 (based on appearance) who is participating in tournaments

Don't see what's particularly hilarious about that. A significant percentage of the BT/MW fan base is 'seasoned'.

[Sandpit]

Crey Rivers, on 26 September 2013 - 08:57 PM, said:

as far as a single piece of content...how's 12v12?
In case you hadn't noticed, that was a complete game changer.
I have yet to see a detractor's argument that was easier to PROVE wrong, try again.

That isn't content, sorry. That's a feature, not a game mode. That merely serves to change a few tactics due to more people on the map. Again, I ask for one single piece of content added other than mechs or maps

[Thoman Coston]

Excellent final match! Great job to both final teams Tiger vs Cobra. That was one intense match. Congrats team Tiger.

[Heffay]

Taigen, on 26 September 2013 - 09:07 PM, said:

Excellent final match! Great job to both final teams Tiger vs Cobra. That was one intense match. Congrats team Tiger.

That was one incredible match! Wow.... That is what keeps people coming back to the game!

[Crey Rivers]

those of us who like/love the game can add Lonestar to the "unsubstantive detractor" list
life's too short to waste energy promoting negativity. If I hate a game, I usually just stop playing it and find a game I DO like...not try to troll the people who actually do like said game.
I think what's really happening, atleast for some of you, is you just enjoy bitching, but you still "begrudgingly" play the game anyway...which is to say you go through life begrudgingly...what a way to live.

[Corvus Antaka]

Crey Rivers, on 26 September 2013 - 08:53 PM, said:

This is the part I completely don't understand...why bother trolling the forums then? do you really have nothing better to do but comment on a forum for a game you don't enjoy? How utterly sad.

+1. 6 games, and yet he's an authority on btech and mechwarrior. and if PGI doesnt do as he says, its a bad game?

like living in the twilight zone sometimes.

[Sandpit]

Crey Rivers, on 26 September 2013 - 09:09 PM, said:

those of us who like/love the game can add Lonestar to the "unsubstantive detractor" list
life's too short to waste energy promoting negativity. If I hate a game, I usually just stop playing it and find a game I DO like...not try to troll the people who actually do like said game.
I think what's really happening, atleast for some of you, is you just enjoy bitching, but you still "begrudgingly" play the game anyway...which is to say you go through life begrudgingly...what a way to live.

So there's no chance that we are tired of "soon" and feel like we are grown and can voice our opinion just the same as you can in hopes that if enough people might say no content, no money that pgi might speed up the process? I could easily say the same of those who love the game. Why would you waste your time bitching about what other people say on the forums instead of playing the game you enjoy? I personally don't care if you like the game or not. Like it? Great, play it. Why would you feel the need to hit the forums and complain about people who complain? Hello pot, meet kettle

[Crey Rivers]

Sandpit, on 26 September 2013 - 09:07 PM, said:

That isn't content, sorry. That's a feature, not a game mode. That merely serves to change a few tactics due to more people on the map. Again, I ask for one single piece of content added other than mechs or maps

So what you're saying is you're going to narrow your argument so finely so that, in your mind, you can't lose this argument. It all takes developement time to code, test, etc...so I don't see why anyone other than a ********* trying to win an argument would see a reason to differentiate the two.
If you said they haven't added a new game mode since conquest, I would've said DUH! thank you captain obvious, now go back to eating billy goats under your bridge.

[Hexenhammer]

Transcript? Anyone? Anyone?

YouTube post for us iLosers?

[Strayed]

The final kinda went something like this

[Sandpit]

Colonel Pada Vinson, on 26 September 2013 - 09:13 PM, said:

+1. 6 games, and yet he's an authority on btech and mechwarrior. and if PGI doesnt do as he says, its a bad game?

like living in the twilight zone sometimes.

And this? This is simply trolling. I said 6 in past year. Guess what? Exact same game it was two years ago minus new mechs, Amos, mc items, and balancing issues. Want a quick run-down? Hundreds of matches since closed beta, thousands of hours playing Btech in every incarnation as well as tabletop. My lack of interest in the game for a year should speak more to the fact that not a single new piece of content has been released in the past two years outside of mechs and maps but instead of addressing that issue you choose to call names and insult. To each their own though. Amazing that I don't feel the need to attack people on here yet I get called names on a regular basis because I voice my opinion on the game (not the players) and problems I see with it.

[Crey Rivers]

Sandpit, on 26 September 2013 - 09:13 PM, said:

So there's no chance that we are tired of "soon" and feel like we are grown and can voice our opinion just the same as you can in hopes that if enough people might say no content, no money that pgi might speed up the process? I could easily say the same of those who love the game. Why would you waste your time bitching about what other people say on the forums instead of playing the game you enjoy? I personally don't care if you like the game or not. Like it? Great, play it. Why would you feel the need to hit the forums and complain about people who complain? Hello pot, meet kettle

There's a bigger chance that no matter how much you want something, it won't be done until it's done and the rest of us are tired of hearing your bellyaching over the same stuff over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over

Personally I'm watching this thread because people are talking excitedly about the launch party, the tournament...etc and I have to wade through the same whining in EVERY SINGLE THREAD ON THIS FORUM, by generally the same people.

pot =/= kettle

[Sandpit]

Crey Rivers, on 26 September 2013 - 09:14 PM, said:

So what you're saying is you're going to narrow your argument so finely so that, in your mind, you can't lose this argument. It all takes developement time to code, test, etc...so I don't see why anyone other than a ********* trying to win an argument would see a reason to differentiate the two.
If you said they haven't added a new game mode since conquest, I would've said DUH! thank you captain obvious, now go back to eating billy goats under your bridge.

Refine? I merely asked for one single piece of content in two years outside of mechs and maps. One. ANY. That's not what I'd call a selective list. Just because you choose to think upping the players allowed on a team from 8 to 12 is actual content doesn't make it so. Failing that you just keep attacking me personally. You're entitled to your opinion and use of the forums just the same as I am. If you enjoy the game then by all means play it and stop worrying about my opinion on it?

[Modo44]

On the announced features, wait and see for what really comes out and when. Propaganda is just that, propaganda.

A new map is a good thing. The idea might not be very original, but PGI is getting better at making maps, so it brings more good content in the game. It is just as important as the entirely new features.

The observer view may be enough for developers, but it is not anywhere ready for tournaments. It must include live info, like mech health+location, a full minimap, mech models, health, and player names directly in the 3D view, etc. Without that and possibly more, it remains a gimmick (and making people nauseaus if the observer is too liberal with camera movement).

[Crey Rivers]

Sandpit, on 26 September 2013 - 09:17 PM, said:

And this? This is simply trolling. I said 6 in past year. Guess what? Exact same game it was two years ago minus new mechs, Amos, mc items, and balancing issues. Want a quick run-down? Hundreds of matches since closed beta, thousands of hours playing Btech in every incarnation as well as tabletop. My lack of interest in the game for a year should speak more to the fact that not a single new piece of content has been released in the past two years outside of mechs and maps but instead of addressing that issue you choose to call names and insult. To each their own though. Amazing that I don't feel the need to attack people on here yet I get called names on a regular basis because I voice my opinion on the game (not the players) and problems I see with it.

If you don't understand how game development works and how long it actually takes, especially with a team of 40, not 200...that isn't my/our fault. If you lack patience, again, that isn't my fault. What else can I say, come back in another year, or don't. But this..."they haven't done anything, except for all the things they've done, which I refuse to count" is infuriating, and it's just non-stop from the likes of you. Patience, breathe.

[HugoStiglitz]

Sandpit, on 26 September 2013 - 09:20 PM, said:

Refine? I merely asked for one single piece of content in two years outside of mechs and maps. One. ANY. That's not what I'd call a selective list. Just because you choose to think upping the players allowed on a team from 8 to 12 is actual content doesn't make it so. Failing that you just keep attacking me personally. You're entitled to your opinion and use of the forums just the same as I am. If you enjoy the game then by all means play it and stop worrying about my opinion on it?

Conquest, modules, a pilot tree that does something, ecm, bap, artemis. Should I continue, or did you not mean 2 years?

[Sandpit]

Crey Rivers, on 26 September 2013 - 09:26 PM, said:

If you don't understand how game development works and how long it actually takes, especially with a team of 40, not 200...that isn't my/our fault. If you lack patience, again, that isn't my fault. What else can I say, come back in another year, or don't. But this..."they haven't done anything, except for all the things they've done, which I refuse to count" is infuriating, and it's just non-stop from the likes of you. Patience, breathe.

No sir, again, my opinion (actually this portion is factual) a multi-million dollar game company cannot put out more than a few maps and mechs in two years. That's a fact. CW was supposed to be in place within 90 days of open beta. That's a fact. CS is one of the core features touted in this game that has been delayed for two years. That's a fact. You not liking my opinion is subjective and if you feel I'm trolling there is a button called the report button if you feel someone is trolling and breaking the CoC as opposed to you know trolling yourself. Now, the cw features talked about are nice but once again as it has been for two years now, the release date is "soon". There simply is nothing to spend money on once you've advanced to a certain point in the game. There's no storyline to captivate players and draw them in and keep them involved in the world. We have the two game modes that nothing has been added to in two years (except upping the player count in matches) this is the frustrating part. Pgi you really need to pick up the pace and actually give something concrete and substantial in the game. You are competing in a crowded gaming market and your product doesn't stand out enough as is. CW would garner you a lot more money and active players than a $30 hero mech will

HugoStiglitz, on 26 September 2013 - 09:32 PM, said:

Conquest, modules, a pilot tree that does something, ecm, bap, artemis. Should I continue, or did you not mean 2 years?

Conquest is the exact same game mode except you have more than one cap point. Come on seriously? This is merely adding more cap points to the exact same game mode. The pilot tree has been in since closed beta and is STILL in as a "placeholder" the bap, ecm, and Artemis were all added nearly 2 years ago as well. They may have been tweaked and rebalanced throughout but they were still added back then

Should I continue or did you mean content that wasn't nearly two years old?

Edited by Sandpit, 26 September 2013 - 09:40 PM.

[HugoStiglitz]

Sandpit, on 26 September 2013 - 09:40 PM, said:

Conquest is the exact same game mode except you have more than one cap point. Come on seriously? This is merely adding more cap points to the exact same game mode. The pilot tree has been in since closed beta and is STILL in as a "placeholder" the bap, ecm, and Artemis were all added nearly 2 years ago as well. They may have been tweaked and rebalanced throughout but they were still added back then

I continue or did you mean content that wasn't nearly two years old?

All of these were added after the game went into open beta, about 1 year ago. Do you have a time machine?
Also maybe you should watch the conquest matches they played today as compared to the assault matches. They are very different.

[Sandpit]

HugoStiglitz, on 26 September 2013 - 09:44 PM, said:

All of these were added after the game went into open beta, about 1 year ago. Do you have a time machine?
Also maybe you should watch the conquest matches they played today as compared to the assault matches. They are very different.

Uhm most of those were present in closed beta. They may not have been completely functional but they were there. The two game modes both equate to stomp into battle in order to cap a point and/or shoot the bad guys. The tactics vary a bit due to one having multiple cap points but that's it. There is not really any other variance in the modes. The only things that's different in the game modes honestly, are the tactics and strategies used. Even conceding that point there is no storyline behind them. There's absolutely no depth (outside of physical tactics and strategies) to the game. I have never bashed on the gameplay of this game. It's decent. Nothing spectacular but not horrible either. There simply isn't any content in the game beyond stomp stomp stomp shoot shoot shoot and repeat. I still don't understand why my opinion should matter to you or cause you any grief. As I have said many times of YOU enjoy the game then why don't you go play it instead of worrying about what I have to say about it? I don't really enjoy the game in it's current state and I'm voicing my opinion as a customer. I've never told you that your opinion was wrong or called you names so why would you feel the need to stop playing a game you enjoy to get on the internet and insult someone who doesn't enjoy the same game?

I like your signature though

[Crey Rivers]

Sandpit, on 26 September 2013 - 09:40 PM, said:

No sir, again, my opinion (actually this portion is factual) a multi-million dollar game company cannot put out more than a few maps and mechs in two years. That's a fact. CW was supposed to be in place within 90 days of open beta. That's a fact. CS is one of the core features touted in this game that has been delayed for two years. That's a fact. You not liking my opinion is subjective and if you feel I'm trolling there is a button called the report button if you feel someone is trolling and breaking the CoC as opposed to you know trolling yourself. Now, the cw features talked about are nice but once again as it has been for two years now, the release date is "soon". There simply is nothing to spend money on once you've advanced to a certain point in the game. There's no storyline to captivate players and draw them in and keep them involved in the world. We have the two game modes that nothing has been added to in two years (except upping the player count in matches) this is the frustrating part. Pgi you really need to pick up the pace and actually give something concrete and substantial in the game. You are competing in a crowded gaming market and your product doesn't stand out enough as is. CW would garner you a lot more money and active players than a $30 hero mech will


Conquest is the exact same game mode except you have more than one cap point. Come on seriously? This is merely adding more cap points to the exact same game mode. The pilot tree has been in since closed beta and is STILL in as a "placeholder" the bap, ecm, and Artemis were all added nearly 2 years ago as well. They may have been tweaked and rebalanced throughout but they were still added back then

I continue or did you mean content that wasn't nearly two years old?

and I don't think you're getting it yet...
you aren't wrong, as far as CW, except that this point has been pounded into every single thread I read. My hostility is a direct result of reading the same exact complaints over and over and over...I would like to think you get this point. I want CW too...and yeah, I think PGI gets it...but it doesn't matter what they get, if they hire 200 more people(as if they could find 200 qualified people) and pile their salaries onto their overhead they wouldn't be able to sustain themselves and bam, PGI goes bust and the game with it. I think PGI should probably handle hiring and not forum trolls. If slow but steady production times means this game sticks around long term, that's fine with me, and if you don't like the companies business model, don't go away mad, just go away. I don't like Walmart's business model, I don't shop at Walmart, I also doing go hang out in front of Walmart and try to chase people out of the parking lot...because I know those people would think I was a jerk.

Edited by Crey Rivers, 26 September 2013 - 10:03 PM.