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[Deathlike]

MonkeyCheese, on 20 August 2013 - 02:47 PM, said:

Way to ruin some good patchnotes, 3pv bitching aside why the hell are the door indicators suddenly broken?

I would have to say it's 3PV's fault... because people have actually wanted a HUD element instead of it being a tiny cockpit blur on your screen.

[Shazarad]

Chronojam, on 20 August 2013 - 03:35 PM, said:

You can simulate the Orion by putting two PPCs and a Gauss rifle, or thereabouts, on a Cataphract. Cost and operations will be essentially equivalent. You're welcome.

It's quite possible for third person to provide expert players with a severe advantage, especially if they are operating in a group, at the same time during which it confuses and frustrates beginners. Surely you can understand how this could be the case.

Chronojam, on 20 August 2013 - 03:35 PM, said:

You can simulate the Orion by putting two PPCs and a Gauss rifle, or thereabouts, on a Cataphract. Cost and operations will be essentially equivalent. You're welcome.

It's quite possible for third person to provide expert players with a severe advantage, especially if they are operating in a group, at the same time during which it confuses and frustrates beginners. Surely you can understand how this could be the case.

That slight moment they get to see where the enemy is provides little advantage. "Expert" players would destroy new people regardless if 3PV was implemented or not.

[Deathlike]

Shazarad, on 20 August 2013 - 03:36 PM, said:

That slight moment they get to see where the enemy is provides little advantage. "Expert" players would destroy new people regardless if 3PV was implemented or not.

Thanks PGI!

[Airborne Thunder]

Zynk, on 20 August 2013 - 03:36 PM, said:

So everyone plays third person whether they want it or NOT.

You can change the view in the settings. F4 is default in game.

[Ander Skye]

Banshee Bullet, on 20 August 2013 - 03:16 PM, said:

For those that don't know, during closed beta scroll up and scroll down could be used as keybinds. I had my 3rd and 4th weapon groups set to them. Still miss that

Yeah, me too... I used it for zoom ranges, it was very nice.

[White Panther]

sooooo..... nothing on hit detection?

[Chronojam]

Shazarad, on 20 August 2013 - 03:36 PM, said:

That slight moment they get to see where the enemy is provides little advantage. "Expert" players would destroy new people regardless if 3PV was implemented or not.

It sounds like you have an under-appreciation for the amount of information you can get from even a quick three second flicker of the enemy. It can make all the difference between a Splatcat nailing your teammates from behind, yeah? Or spotting a trio of Ravens making their way down the rim of the map to your base.

"Good players do better than bad players" is not a compelling reason to introduce new mechanics that give good players even more advantage over bad players and newcomers.

[Airborne Thunder]

Shazarad, on 20 August 2013 - 03:33 PM, said:

Ok first you hate the fact that 3PV is in game and claim it will give too much advantage and is unfair for doing so. Then you come back and say its terrible and smash on PGI again for the fact that it isn't as powerful as you once thought?

Are you kidding me?

No I am not kidding you. PGI both LIED to us about not forcing us to EVER have to play 1st person view vs 3rd person view and couldn't even get it right when they tried.

[Chronojam]

Also it's 15,000 GXP and consumable.

[Mystere]

Kattspya, on 20 August 2013 - 03:32 PM, said:

Where?

Patch notes:

• Reducing the crit probability of Machine Guns. (0.11, 0.06, 0.02 > 0.06, 0.03, 0.01)
  
• Crit damage multiplier on Machine Guns reduced from 12.5 to 9.0

Where else could it be?

[Kattspya]

Mystere, on 20 August 2013 - 04:03 PM, said:

Patch notes:

• Reducing the crit probability of Machine Guns. (0.11, 0.06, 0.02 > 0.06, 0.03, 0.01)
  
• Crit damage multiplier on Machine Guns reduced from 12.5 to 9.0

Where else could it be?

Where was the whining?

I already acknowledged the patch notes in the post you quoted.

Edited by Kattspya, 20 August 2013 - 04:04 PM.

[Nekki Basara]

Banshee Bullet, on 20 August 2013 - 03:16 PM, said:

while we're complaining about pgi lies:

I have an email from pgi tech support dated last fall (a couple days after open beta started) saying they would have the scroll wheel bug fixed shortly. Flash forward nearly a year and I still can't bind functions to my scroll wheel.

For those that don't know, during closed beta scroll up and scroll down could be used as keybinds. I had my 3rd and 4th weapon groups set to them. Still miss that

You know you can do this by editing the config file right?

[Kattspya]

**** it. I asked for a refund for all MC purchases since that never statement was made. It will be interesting to see how they handle it.

EDIT: Apparently database problems can cause the text in the post to be duplicated within the post.

Edited by Kattspya, 20 August 2013 - 04:30 PM.

[Airborne Thunder]

Kattspya, on 20 August 2013 - 04:28 PM, said:

**** it. I asked for a refund for all MC purchases since that never statement was made. It will be interesting to see how they handle it.

EDIT: Apparently database problems can cause the text in the post to be duplicated within the post.

Keep me posted. This should be good.

[Caswallon]

JohnnyWayne, on 20 August 2013 - 12:33 PM, said:

Your wife has weapons Groups? Ô_o

Yes and some of them are in MWO

VagGR, on 20 August 2013 - 12:34 PM, said:

your wife plays MWO?! ... good wife man..keep her!

Fully intend to!
She got more Kills than I did in our test out tonight of the new patch. Alas her machine dropped a few fps (though mine didn't) so will need to see if the patch reset more than just her weapon group assignments. I suspect so.

[Mystere]

Kattspya, on 20 August 2013 - 04:04 PM, said:

Where was the whining?

I already acknowledged the patch notes in the post you quoted.

I can't find the older ones. But, the newest one is here.

[BVRCWolf]

Wow, what F....... BS, Starting in 3rd person unless you go to options. Stupid cheat garbage. Was going to put more money in, now NOT!


GIVE ME MY MONEY BACK AND TAKE YOUR GARBAGE GAME!

Edited by BVRCWolf, 20 August 2013 - 04:45 PM.

[LemonsDaBest]

(CHEEERRRRSS) GIVE ME A P!! GIVE ME THE LETTER A! NOW GIVE ME A T! TO THE C! H! ...SAYYYY WHHAAA??
CHIGGAABOUNBOUNBB-YEAH!

[Kattspya]

Mystere, on 20 August 2013 - 04:34 PM, said:

I can't find the older ones. But, the newest one is here.

Ooooh nine pages.

Why aren't LRM's nerfed yet?

[PaleRyder]

Third person view was introduced by an obviously clueless group of individuals. Coming from the original MW games it was used to exploit the game. How is it a good Idea when I smash my mech into a cliff wall and can see enemy mechs on top of the hill and begin to jump snipe them. I can go on for an hour or so about exploits but wont.
This was a BIG mistake, the game has an arcade feel and will be EXPLOITED beyond what the inexperienced group of individuals who instituted it can even imagine. At least it could be bidded off in the original game.
Time would have been better spent on map selecting or a bidding system.
IMHO