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#1241 skamage

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 06:41 AM

View PostKotrin, on 21 August 2013 - 06:34 AM, said:

All of you have spent money on Founder 'Mechs, Phoenix project and what not, it's too late. Ask for a refund? That's the most hilarious and childish reaction I have seen.


Not sure how asking for a refund on something you are not satisfied with is being childish. People ask for refunds all the time if they are not satisfied with something.

#1242 Xant

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 06:41 AM

Refund ticket is on its way.
Have a nice day pgi.

#1243 JeremyCrow

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 06:42 AM

I've never seen a company mistreat so badly it's customer base. Don't you guys ever learn?

Btw, we're supposed to get CW news in August... 10 days to go. Who wants to bet that we'll get nothing once again?

Oh well, back to EVE...

#1244 Raistlic

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 06:42 AM

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People claiming PGI lied may have a point, people claiming PGI is betraying the game or the universe are just completely lost. Mechwarrior online is a damn GAME. Mechwarrior and Battletech are just fantasy universes.


Maybe, but the majority of players also has balance concerns. But you are right. BT and MW are indeed fantasy games, but especially MW:O is a fantasy game founded with real people's real money.

#1245 KingCobra

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 06:43 AM

Thank you PGI 3rd person is wonderful just a few things I noticed R-L movement is a little slow still and where is the key for a 360 view around your mech? unless I just cant find it to look at the front of my mech?. Posted Image

#1246 SixstringSamurai

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 06:46 AM

View PostNamais, on 21 August 2013 - 06:32 AM, said:



I sent it but I don't know if it went through it blanked out after I put in the capture.

#1247 John Mechlane

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 06:51 AM

No one will get back a single cent. Writing support ticket for that reason is just dumb.
https://mwomercs.com/terms
"All fees and other charges are payable in advance and are non-refundable."

Everyone bough MC...virtual money to be spent on mechs/megchbays/deco etc. You got what you paid for. You did not preorder a game, which changed by release. So the "PGI lied to us" argument is invalid.

I'm gonna stick around a bit longer, to see where the game goes. Wonder how many more f*ckups will PGI manage to pull off, and after that ignore the voice of the masses.. or "vocal minority" as they call us.

Edited by JaniTheWeedman, 21 August 2013 - 07:02 AM.


#1248 Nasty McBadman

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 06:56 AM

I understand that I paid A LOT of money into this game and I am not looking for a refund. I am actually hoping that a large number of people have a good deal of fun with it. I am deeply unhappy with the 3PV being unavoidable for me. It destroys immersion with the indestructible blinky floaty thing. I hate it with a deep passion beyond any simple advantage/disadvantage metric. I was relieved when PGI stated that there would be separate options for 3PV/1PV drops. It helped make my decision on my Overlord package. It will be a sad day for me (quickly approaching) when I am too unhappy with the game to play it any more or so upset that I have to encourage any of my friends who have not yet started playing to avoid the game like the plague. I am not a fan of "poisoning the well" but I feel that PGI is almost trolling a big portion of the player base.

Edited by Nasty McBadman, 21 August 2013 - 06:56 AM.


#1249 Deathlike

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 06:56 AM

View PostJeremyCrow, on 21 August 2013 - 06:42 AM, said:

I've never seen a company mistreat so badly it's customer base. Don't you guys ever learn?

Btw, we're supposed to get CW news in August... 10 days to go. Who wants to bet that we'll get nothing once again?

Oh well, back to EVE...


CW? After launch...

That also assumes this game is still here by 2014.

#1250 skamage

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 06:56 AM

View PostJaniTheWeedman, on 21 August 2013 - 06:51 AM, said:

No one will get back a single cent. Writing support ticket for that reason is just dumb.
https://mwomercs.com/terms


How is it dumb? If they even got 1000 tickets saying, we want a refund it will show PGI that they messed up. 1000 x $5/month x 12 months=$60k lost in potential

#1251 Horation

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 06:57 AM

View PostJaniTheWeedman, on 21 August 2013 - 06:51 AM, said:

No one will get back a single cent. Writing support ticket for that reason is just dumb.
https://mwomercs.com/terms


You do realise that chargebacks do not recognise those terms? Only product promises not delivered. 101 customer rights.

#1252 Raistlic

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 07:01 AM

Maybe someone could post a well thought out text for a refund ticket. So we just copy and past it if needed.

#1253 Overkill C7

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 07:02 AM

I feel that the maturity level of the player base has nose dived drastically.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 07:02 AM

After testing 3rd person first hand and having played actual matches against people using it I have to say I really do not care anymore what PGI does about it.

No minimap and Lancestatus + crosshair bumping + low camera position + drone that makes me well visible and trackable beyond normal visual range = 3rd Person no option for me to play in ever.

In fact I am thankful for every poor victim that highlights his position through the drone so I can snipe his *** into the ground with my PPC and Gauss shot from 1st person. As far as looking around corners goes I have to say that seismic has a much further reaching impact than that.

So all in all PGI were actually successful in creating a third person view that works fine for getting a better feeling of what you legs and torso do but at the same time does not have the feared tactical advantage over 1st Person. Once you know how to handle your mech 1st Person clearly is the much better perspective to play in.

But to be honest that never was my most pressing problem with it anyways. I still think the effort made and the controvers in and with the community caused were not worth it. I am really curious to see number in a view months on how many people really use 3d person view on a constant basis as their main playing perspective.

Edited by Jason Parker, 21 August 2013 - 07:05 AM.


#1255 Reaganomicon

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 07:04 AM

View PostJaniTheWeedman, on 21 August 2013 - 06:51 AM, said:

No one will get back a single cent. Writing support ticket for that reason is just dumb.
https://mwomercs.com/terms
"All fees and other charges are payable in advance and are non-refundable."


PGI says this, no one cares. Go to a bank, request a chargeback, watch PGI helplessly wail and gnash teeth because they do not dictate the terms of a chargeback.

#1256 John Mechlane

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 07:05 AM

View PostHoration, on 21 August 2013 - 06:57 AM, said:


You do realise that chargebacks do not recognise those terms? Only product promises not delivered. 101 customer rights.


You do realise that you paid for MC which you got. You did not preorder an unreleased game. You got the MC...spent it, and used the thigs you got for it.

View PostOverkill C7, on 21 August 2013 - 07:02 AM, said:

I feel that the maturity level of the player base has nose dived drastically.

No argument there.

Edited by JaniTheWeedman, 21 August 2013 - 07:06 AM.


#1257 Kunae

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 07:05 AM

View PostJaniTheWeedman, on 21 August 2013 - 06:51 AM, said:

No one will get back a single cent. Writing support ticket for that reason is just dumb.
https://mwomercs.com/terms
"All fees and other charges are payable in advance and are non-refundable."

Everyone bough MC...virtual money to be spent on mechs/megchbays/deco etc. You got what you paid for. You did not preorder a game, which changed by release. So the "PGI lied to us" argument is invalid.

I'm gonna stick around a bit longer, to see where the game goes. Wonder how many more f*ckups will PGI manage to pull off, and after that ignore the voice of the masses.. or "vocal minority" as they call us.

View PostJaniTheWeedman, on 21 August 2013 - 07:05 AM, said:


You do realise that you paid for MC which you got. You did not preorder an unreleased game. You got the MC...spent it, and used the thigs you got for it.


It's beta.

Which means as the product has not been released yet, no one has taken delivery of any of their pre-orders, whether that's in the form of Founders/Phoenix, or direct MC purchases.

Edited by Kunae, 21 August 2013 - 07:06 AM.


#1258 Abivard

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 07:05 AM

Which of these white Knights actually draws a paycheck from PGI?

What? you say the people at PGI would never log onto forums under false colors? your right their integrity is beyond question......it is beyond question because they have none.

#1259 IceSerpent

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 07:06 AM

View PostRenaissance, on 21 August 2013 - 05:58 AM, said:


You got it!

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#1260 SgtMaster

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 07:06 AM

View PostMonkeyCheese, on 21 August 2013 - 06:16 AM, said:


Really? after all the time I have spent in these forums and reading about all your efforts with helping new people I expected someone of your high caliber to be on the side of the playerbase and actually understand our problems with the constant cycle of lies and broken promises and the lack of a real tutorial and so on.

But nope blind white knight it is.


To be honest, i don't play this game anymore, too boring/ awkward, i mean what game developer company hasn't read the first 3 laws of Gaming: 1- no invisible walls...! PGI figured this game could use them all over the map,... well, that's what you get giving money to potheads i guess..

so if i cant beat them, might as well join the 2% of nut cases PGI does listen too...

PS: again, i mean, like everything PGI does, even 3rd view is broken, there is really no advantage...

Edited by SgtMaster, 21 August 2013 - 07:10 AM.






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