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#1381 Abivard

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 08:57 AM

View PostSolis Obscuri, on 21 August 2013 - 08:33 AM, said:

You seriously think the QA team could find ice in Antarctica?


Do you seriously think there is a QA team?

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 08:57 AM

View PostKunae, on 21 August 2013 - 08:56 AM, said:

Generally, for a game, it's 95% feature complete when it goes "open beta".


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Posted 21 August 2013 - 08:58 AM

View PostCelarnor, on 21 August 2013 - 08:53 AM, said:

I guess I didn't see these scenarios as a problem because of the delay in switching modes and the big PPC magnet drone that will draw all weapons toward your jumping point near where you were before, but I could see where it could be an issue.


My god you are thickheaded. Swing your viewpoint to the direction you want to move with moderate speed and disable the drone after that. Start moving after you disabled 3PV, set up an ambush or jumpsnipe from there. From the enemy's viewpoint your drone shows you moved to the opposite direction.

Is it so hard to come up with tricks like this?

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 08:59 AM

View PostBloody Moon, on 21 August 2013 - 08:58 AM, said:


My god you are thickheaded. Swing your viewpoint to the direction you want to move with moderate speed and disable the drone after that. Start moving after you disabled 3PV, set up an ambush or jumpsnipe from there. From the enemy's viewpoint your drone shows you moved to the opposite direction.

Is it so hard to come up with tricks like this?

For the general arm-lock, throttle-decay, pug population, the answer would seem to be yes.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 09:01 AM

View Postmint frog, on 21 August 2013 - 08:54 AM, said:

If anything PGI is more like an abusive spouse that we keep going back to hoping he will change but never does.


This is why the only realy option, for those of you who want 1PV only queues/gameplay, is to quit now.

Even if you keep playing without paying, you're still providing content for them. They need to loose players before they get the message: they can ignore the forums, but they can't ignore the implosion of their game.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 09:01 AM

View PostThosarmer, on 21 August 2013 - 07:47 AM, said:

To force your low post count to go up and trick you into debating when all I'm going to do is argue my point then you argue yours then a mod is going to tell us to back off then it spills over into the game where we shoot each other and damn everyone else until the final epic conclusion where we become best friends and draw ponies on the sidewalk.



I already Draw Ponies on the side walk WHAT NOW MANG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 09:02 AM

View Postdrunkblackstar, on 21 August 2013 - 08:50 AM, said:

Oh, please, srtop this ******** about lying. You treat PGI like your wife who cheated on you. Return to the real world, it's not a girl, it'a game developer! The project is in the development process, so no wonder some things could have changed since 2012 summer.


It was in March this year, stated as a fact to PAYING CUSTOMERS. I definitely live in the real world, but if you think that PGI are the "good guys" and that they have a right to lie to their paying customers, I really do suggest that it is YOU who needs to return to the real world. Or stop drinking.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 09:03 AM

View Postdrunkblackstar, on 21 August 2013 - 08:33 AM, said:

In fact 3pv didn't change anything in terms of balance, it's just a tiny video feature.


For 4-man slop play, you're probably right, although the good players will exploit the hell out of it to get an advantage.

For 12-man competitive play, it's a killer. It forces using a game mechanic that most competitive players just don't want to deal with, I know I don't. If left unchallenged, PGI would force "hard core players" to use 3PV for exploitation, not for easier or better or more enjoyable gameplay. PGI is just misreading this problem. For competitive player, it's not about other players having an advantage, it's about being forced to use 3PV: It would not be optional in competitive play. Why? Because the other team is going to use every capability to win including recon with no danger to the unit doing the recon.

So again, in 4-man slop, you might be right, but in competitive play, PGI is attempting to FORCE players into 3PV, whether they understand that or not.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 09:06 AM

View PostDCM Zeus, on 21 August 2013 - 01:53 AM, said:

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Russ, not only do you look like an ******* with these twitter posts, but you are making the entire PGI staff look bad too.


This only solidifies how much you to don't give a rats a$$ about the community.


Quoted for everybody read.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 09:06 AM

I need to check out Star Citizen too. Didn't play Wing Commander, but loved Elite. Also, need to get DOSbox going right on my comp and get Crescent Hawk's Inception going for some nostalgia. Last summer, waiting for entrance to closed beta, I ran through all the MW2 & 3 games on DOSbox. At least there you are supposed to be able to kill 4-8 mechs by yourself.

I popped 3pv a couple times. Didn't like it. Doesn't fit my idea of what I wanted out of MWO (sim combat vs arcade game). Is 3pv to make this Xbox portable? I love piloting a 'mech, but I'm getting sad. Maybe I'll just kill my time in Minecraft...

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 09:08 AM

View PostMystere, on 21 August 2013 - 08:24 AM, said:


Gettting old? Maybe. But what I do know is that reading all of this whining is getting tiresome ... except that it is also quite entertaining at times if done moderately (the reading, that is, and not the whining). :)


Hawken is looking real goodatm so is AC 5

#1392 Tabrias07

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 09:09 AM

View PostKunae, on 21 August 2013 - 08:56 AM, said:

Generally, for a game, it's 95% feature complete when it goes "open beta".

Do you think the Flea will ever be added to the game?

As far as I'm concerned this game is not feature complete and still alpha until at least MASC is in. CW maybe, but it is just going to be a map on the website with "FIGHT FOR THIS PLANET AND GET +5% LOYALTY POINTS"

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 09:09 AM

Just going to throw this out there,



Its ARMA focused but alot of it carries over to MWO

#1394 Abivard

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 09:09 AM

For the brain dead or lazy, nothing makes a difference, they simply are incapable of taking advantage of any situation.

So do not be surprised they 'don't see a problem' the reason they don't see is because they are either blind or have their eyes squeezed tightly shut! Most likely with their hand over their ears and chanting a mantra of 'I can't hear you!' over and over until we all go away.

Please don't scream out how stupid you are for the whole world to see...

p.s. and pull your pants up! they look silly with the waistband around your knees.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 09:10 AM

View PostBloody Moon, on 21 August 2013 - 08:58 AM, said:


My god you are thickheaded. Swing your viewpoint to the direction you want to move with moderate speed and disable the drone after that. Start moving after you disabled 3PV, set up an ambush or jumpsnipe from there. From the enemy's viewpoint your drone shows you moved to the opposite direction.

Is it so hard to come up with tricks like this?


That never occurred to me, no, and thank you for your explanation.

There's no need to be so hateful; I've only been playing MWO and lurking the board for about a month. I'm just trying to understand _why_ so many people dislike this seemingly innocuous change so much.

Maybe with more posts like yours that have substantive scenarios where the vision advantage can be abused, the 'armlock, throttle decay pug population' will understand why this is something that should be in a separate queue.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 09:14 AM

For all who missed it, or tl;dr.


Russ not only makes himself look like a a$$-hole, but he makes PGI look like an a$$-hole too and to top it all off, he doesn't give a rats a$$ about the community, his own posts show this.

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Edited by DCM Zeus, 21 August 2013 - 09:17 AM.


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Posted 21 August 2013 - 09:17 AM

View PostDCM Zeus, on 21 August 2013 - 09:14 AM, said:

For all who missed it, or tl;dr.

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wow
just f o king wow

maybe in a week I will try to play again if that is what you think of us .

#1398 Tragos

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 09:17 AM

And just a reminder - the problem are not the exploits 3rd person view makes possible - the problem is the "fact" that, we don't have the -> promised <- (as a fact) 1st person queue.

Bait and switch is nice.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 09:19 AM

View PostBloody Moon, on 21 August 2013 - 08:58 AM, said:


My god you are thickheaded. Swing your viewpoint to the direction you want to move with moderate speed and disable the drone after that. Start moving after you disabled 3PV, set up an ambush or jumpsnipe from there. From the enemy's viewpoint your drone shows you moved to the opposite direction.

Is it so hard to come up with tricks like this?


That never occurred to me, no, and thank you for your explanation.

There's no need to be so hateful; I've only been playing MWO and lurking the board for about a month. I'm just trying to understand _why_ so many people dislike this seemingly innocuous change so much.

Maybe with more posts like yours that have substantive scenarios where the vision advantage can be abused, the 'armlock, throttle decay pug population' will understand why this is something that should be in a separate queue.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 09:19 AM

View PostCelarnor, on 21 August 2013 - 09:10 AM, said:


That never occurred to me, no, and thank you for your explanation.

There's no need to be so hateful; I've only been playing MWO and lurking the board for about a month. I'm just trying to understand _why_ so many people dislike this seemingly innocuous change so much.

Maybe with more posts like yours that have substantive scenarios where the vision advantage can be abused, the 'armlock, throttle decay pug population' will understand why this is something that should be in a separate queue.


Thing is people have been posting such scenarios for 72 pages now, with pics and everything. But every couple of pages someone like you comes along yelling at us about being a bunch of whiners and ruining the community. So read the thread first. Heck read 10 pages and you will see enough to convince you unless you are the biggest white knight around.





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