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#61 Heffay

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 11:59 AM

View PostGemhadar, on 23 August 2013 - 11:58 AM, said:

what the hells going on? I'm in the midst of trying to buy MC.


Nothing is going on. Absolutely nothing.

#62 Kraven Kor

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 12:20 PM

So... why are there only like 4 or 5 of us posting about this most recent insanity on their Facebook?

We need hundreds - we have a handful.

Don't be rude, don't be nasty, just post along the following lines:

"Where is that split queue?"

"When will you restore 1PV only gameplay for those of your fans requesting such?"

"Why is the latest Ask the Devs not addressing the forced and surprise addition of the 3PV option without the promised 1PV-only queue?"

If we can't get mobilized outside the forums, and capitalize on recent media attention, we are going to look like a handful of angry old men yelling at clouds.

We aren't a handful of angry old men yelling at clouds, right? ^_^

#63 Miekael

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 12:42 PM

Yay I am off moderator preview! Time to start citing more legal advise to people!

#64 Kraven Kor

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 12:51 PM

Also, I could use a link to videos showing 3PV being used in the fashion many of us feared. Someone had posted several such links in the various 3PV threads, but as happens, now that I need them I can't find them.

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 01:06 PM

How about contacting and writing to publications about the issues? Just a thought, they can't moderate that, and it may do more good pressing PGI with more articles of the troubles facing MWO. Anyway happy Storm the Castle day!

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 01:06 PM

Yawn your all beating a dead horse at this point and your all not helping MWO at all im surprised IGP/PGI has been this tolerant of your nonsense so far. Posted Image Posted Image

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 01:09 PM

View PostKingCobra, on 23 August 2013 - 01:06 PM, said:

Yawn your all beating a dead horse at this point and your all not helping MWO at all im surprised IGP/PGI has been this tolerant of your nonsense so far.


Insult us all you wish.

We just want the game they sold us last year, and we want to ensure they understand that they cannot sell us one thing and give us another.

You are welcome to disagree.

Edited by Kraven Kor, 23 August 2013 - 01:09 PM.


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Posted 23 August 2013 - 01:11 PM

View PostWerewolf486, on 23 August 2013 - 01:06 PM, said:

How about contacting and writing to publications about the issues? Just a thought, they can't moderate that, and it may do more good pressing PGI with more articles of the troubles facing MWO. Anyway happy Storm the Castle day!


Most gaming websites don't give a **** about MWO.

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 01:13 PM

View PostProtection, on 23 August 2013 - 01:11 PM, said:


Most gaming websites don't give a **** about MWO.


Wait until release. You won't be able to find a gaming website that *doesn't* talk about it.

#70 Miekael

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 01:53 PM

http://penny-arcade....-in-open-revolt

http://loadeddicecas...ior-online.html

http://themittani.co...ure-communicate

View PostWerewolf486, on 23 August 2013 - 01:06 PM, said:

How about contacting and writing to publications about the issues? Just a thought, they can't moderate that, and it may do more good pressing PGI with more articles of the troubles facing MWO. Anyway happy Storm the Castle day!


The list is starting.

Edited by Miekael, 23 August 2013 - 01:54 PM.


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Posted 23 August 2013 - 08:51 PM

Even as a goon I have to say that themittani doesn't really count as an outside news source. It's quite a good article but it IS written by a WoL member.

The loaded dice thing looks more like a blogpost and the penny arcade article tries to hard to stay neutral in a situation where one side is clearly doing something wrong (ffs a good fraction of the DHB people even agree something is wrong!)

But yeah, if you can get some games "journalists" interested into writing about the downfall of MWO go right ahead!

I'm sure a kotaku article is just waiting to be written after release proves to be a big ole flop (because it will be ******* meaningless in terms of new content).

#72 Duncan Longwood

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 10:45 PM

AtD45 Answer from PGI: We are acutely aware of the #saveMWO group. As with all feedback/suggestions, whether it be from groups or individuals, we weigh them all equally and work through the pros and cons of the suggestions. We cannot move forward with all suggestions made and we have to keep in mind our original goals of the gamebringing the IP back to life and making the game fun for as many people as possible, not just the core group (which is who the majority of #saveMWO is). While we do actively listen to our core group (and as mentioned, we cannot follow up with every suggestion made), who we do value greatly, we have to keep in mind what is best for MWO in the long term, and that is attracting as many new players as possible.


So... This says to me that they are not making a mechwarrior game that appeals to fans of the IP, but are making a video game with a mechwarrior skin on it. I think most players feel that their two stated goals are somewhat mutually exclusive at this point in development. I believe that most publishers felt the same way when they were shopping it around for financing, but then again, they probably weren't expecting the core fans to be willing to shell out ten times the cost of an ordinary AAA title.

I was under the mistaken impression that a solid Mechwarrior sim was what they were making and they would make it so good that people couldn't ignore it, thus attracting new players; I thought I was who they were marketing to. They are actually going for the mass market, wanting to use high player turnover for profitability versus repeat customers.

It feels like they want to make the video game equivalent of a $5 pizza buffet-style restaurant where the faster you turn over tables the more money you make instead of a fine-dining establishment where you take your time with each table and make large profits from over-priced alcohol sales. I feel that they are asking me to pay fine-dining prices for some $5 pizza just because they are the only place in town that calls themselves "fine-dining".

What PGI is doing is like marketing rap music to white kids in the suburbs... they may be the ones who are your largest consumers but they aren't who you market to; you market to your core audience of young, inner-city trend-setters. When the core group says it's cool, then everyone else jumps on the bandwagon.

This loss of market focus is stated as one of their two main goals for this game... that says all I need to know. It says that whatever the core group does, they don't care because you were only the market to get the initial financing for this game. Now that financing is secured they can proceed to make a mass market game with your monies.

Edited by Duncan Longwood, 23 August 2013 - 10:49 PM.


#73 Vhetra

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 11:16 PM

Hey there. I'd like to sign the Letter for #saveMWO on behalf of the 5th Drakøns, an FRR House unit. A lot of us have been around since Closed beta, and we're absolutely fed up with PGI at this point.

We have about 20 players.

It seems Stalkerr has run out of space or is prohibiting non-friends from messaging him.

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 03:43 AM

I'm guessing his mailbox is full, he's had a lot of pms

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 02:29 PM

View PostVhetra, on 23 August 2013 - 11:16 PM, said:

Hey there. I'd like to sign the Letter for #saveMWO on behalf of the 5th Drakøns, an FRR House unit. A lot of us have been around since Closed beta, and we're absolutely fed up with PGI at this point.

We have about 20 players.

It seems Stalkerr has run out of space or is prohibiting non-friends from messaging him.


Mr. Vhetra

PM me so I can at least add it to the OP.

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 08:54 AM

Some of us have been posting on their facebook... but I think the majority of people are keeping it to the forums and some on twitter.

Maybe more people posting on their facebook would be a good way to get the word out more... I don't know.

#77 Kraven Kor

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 10:44 AM

We need contact information and social media links to IGP staff, as well, as there is some chance it is them driving these deviations and forcing PGI to make them.

Not saying that is what is happening, it is just a possibility and we need to take the fight to IGP.

For what little it may be worth.

#78 Werewolf486 ScorpS

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 12:15 PM

Couldn't you write some of these publications about the issue? I don't buy any so I have no idea who they are. The closest thing was when I had my wife get PC Gamer for the Skin and Colors, back when we all had hope for this game.

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 04:36 PM

I know this is going to come off as negative, but I think as a community our best bet is to let this game die and let it be a lesson as far as kickstarting development projects. I would like nothing better than to see the game turn around, but at this point and with so much deceit and mistrust from the developers and the publishers, how would they even begin to repair that with the community?

Maybe the rights will get sold to someone who actually does care about the franchise more than just making a profit off of it. That's the problem here. All IGP or PGI really cares about is trying to make a profit off this game, so much so to the point that they will willingly rip anything out of it that truly makes this franchise great in order to try and make a buck.

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 05:22 PM

View PostKraven Kor, on 23 August 2013 - 01:09 PM, said:


Insult us all you wish.

We just want the game they sold us last year, and we want to ensure they understand that they cannot sell us one thing and give us another.

You are welcome to disagree.


Thanks I will disagree on some things and agree on others.

View PostKraven Kor, on 25 August 2013 - 10:44 AM, said:

We need contact information and social media links to IGP staff, as well, as there is some chance it is them driving these deviations and forcing PGI to make them.

Not saying that is what is happening, it is just a possibility and we need to take the fight to IGP.

For what little it may be worth.


You still don't understand sigh you will find out like I have PGI and IGP are one big group along with many other studios and game production company's in Canada. Here I will start you off with a few to research====
3Mind Games
3 Pod
5381 Studios
Absurd Games
A.C.R.O.N.Y.M. Games
Alchemic Dream
Alt Software
Anhero Studio (Illogical Studios)
Antic Entertainment
Arctic Empire
Artech Studios
A Thinking Ape
Audiokinetic
Autodesk Canada
B Studio
Babel Media
BAD Entertainment Inc.
Battlegoat Studios
Bdeb
Beenox
Behaviour Interactive
Berzerk Studio
Big Blue Bubble Inc
Big Fish Games Canada
BigPark
Big Sandwich Games
Big Viking Games
BioWare
BlackCherry
Black Tusk Studios
Blammo Games
Blazing Games
Blitzoo Games
BlooBuzz
Bluberi Jeux et Technologies
Blue Lizard Games
Braintonik
Brink 3D Studios
Brisk Mobile Inc.
Bug Tracker
C4 Digital Entertainment
Capcom Game Studio
Capybara Games
Cat Amuck Studios
Cégep du vieux Montréal
Cégep Limoilou
Centre NAD
Chartwell Technology Inc.
Cieo Creative
Citérémis
Clockwork Productions
Collège Bart
Complex Games
Compulsion Games
Cosmic Logic
Crankshaft Games
Credo Interactive Inc
CREO
CrowdWave Games
Cyanide Studio
Darwin Dimensions Inc.
D-BOX
Deep Fried Entertainment
DemonWare
DHX Media
Digital Alchemy Entertainment
Digital Extremes
Digital Leisure
Dingo Games
Di-O-Matic
Disney Interactive Studio Canada
DJArts Games
DotBunny
Dream Pod 9
DrinkBox
DTI Soft
East Side Games
Eden Industries
Eidos Montréal
Elanex
Electronic Arts Canada
Electron Jump
Emerging Playgrounds
ENDI - Ecole Nationale en Divertissement Interactifs
Enzyme
Eos Systems
Equation Humaine
Evodant Interactive
Feeling Software
Flashman Studios
Fourth Monkey Media
Frima Studio
Fuel Games
Funcom
Fuse
Fugitive Interactive
G4 Box Inc.
GameHouse
Gameloft
Game Pill Inc
Gamerizon
GamesCafe
Gaslamp Games
Genia
Genius Factor Games
Gigatross Games
Glinkie Games
Gnosis Games
Gogii Games
Golem Labs
Gold Sun Games
Good World Games
GREE Canada
Halfbot
Hardline Studios
HB Studios Multimedia
Hellbent Games
Hemisphere Games
Heroic Interactive
Hibernum Creations
High Road
Hothead Games
Howling Moon Games
Humanature Studio (Nexon)
Illogika Studios
Incubator Games
Infinite Game Publishing
Ingenuity Works
InLight Entertainment
Institut Desgraff
Ironclad Games
IUGO Mobile Entertainment
Jet Black Games
Eruptive Games
Kalador Entertainment Inc.
KANO/APPS
Kerberos Productions
KIXEYE
Klei Entertainment
Kokoromi
Koolhaus Games
KrabbitSoft Studios
Kutoka
Lemonade GameLabs
Little Guy Games
Longbow Digital Arts
Longtail Studios
Loogaroo
Loopycube
Ludia
Ludicrous Software
Lvl Studio
Madcatz Canada
Magitech Corporation
Magmic Games
March Entertainment
Massive Damage Inc.
Massive Finger
Microforum International
Midnight Synergy
Mind Habits
Mistic Software
Modus FX
Mojaro
NDi Media
Neggi Studio Montréal
Next Level Games
Nintendo Canada
North Side
Odd1
OGPlanet
Other Ocean Interactive
Ovolo Games
Ph03nix New Media
Picture Start Studio
Pinngauq
Piranha Games
Pitch Mobile
PixelNAUTS Inc.
PixelStorm
Playbrains
PMD Logisoft
Polytron Corporation
PowerUp Studios
Presagis
QA on Request
Quazal
Rabbit Hole Entertainment
Radical Entertainment
Ratrod Studio
Real DB Inc
Relic Entertainment
Rocketfuel Games
RocketOwl Inc
Rockstar Toronto
Rockstar Vancouver
Sarbakan
Sava Transmédia
Sculpin QA
Side City
Silicon Knights
Sillysoft Games
Silverback Productions
Slant Six Games
Slick Entertainment
Smoking Gun Interactive
Social Graph Studios
Source Studio
SPIELO International
Splashworks
Spongelab Interactive
Steambot studios
Stinger Games
Strategy First
Studio 13
Stunt Software
Techno Compétences
Tecmo Koei Canada
TELO International
Think Animation
THQ
Threewave
Tinderbox Entertainment
Tiny Speck
Transgaming
Trapdoor
Tribal Nova
Triotech Amusement
Toon Boom Animation
TooMuchVoltage Software
Torn Banner Studios
Ubisoft Montréal
Uken Games
United Front Grames
Université du Québec à Chicoutimi
Université de Sherbrooke / University of Sherbrooke
Utheverse Digital
V7 Entertainment
Vast Studios
Vblank Entertainment
VectorBloom Technologies
Veil Entertainment
Viceral Games
Virtuos
Vive Technologies
VMC Game Labs
Volta Creations
Voltz Entertainment
WB Games Montreal
Wave Generation
Wild Games Studio
Xcel Software Source
XGen Studios
XMG Studio
Xtrême Prototypes
Xrucifix (Two Guys Software)
Yummy Interactive
Zensoft Studio
Zionix Studio


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