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[ryoma]

Hope PGI finally listens to the community.

[Boris Javorina]

interesting result so far!

[DeadDomineus]

results are saddening.

[Joseph Mallan]

DeadDomineus, on 09 September 2013 - 04:48 AM, said:

results are saddening.

yes it is sad that PGI is not listening to the cash cows!!!!

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 09 September 2013 - 05:03 AM.

[Havyek]

Tice Daurus, on 23 August 2013 - 02:52 PM, said:

I wanted to post this here so we can help PGI see what we want with our vote for the future. VOTE HERE, if you'd like to discuss your vote as well, do so below. Also, I am trying to keep this voting/polling fair and unbiased. If you want to help with suggesting a change to the voting, please list your addition/change.

Nice thinking, but if PGI's implementation of "features" like 3PV is any indication, they will thank you for your input, and summarily ignore it.

You know, because they know better and they care too much about us.

[armyof1]

I think the results of this poll and PGI's subsequent ignoring the results really tells you something. The devs think going against the core fans is correct because 3PV will magically bring in oh-so-many new players that enjoy Mechwarrior and with that a huge new income base. Personally I think that's a fatal mistake. Mechwarrior was never going to be something for a wide player base, and making it more casual in gameplay (and sticking some really unintuitive gameplay mechanics like Gauss charge and discharge that actually goes straight against that principle) and driving off a lot of loyal fans that were putting a lot of money into the game I think is entirely the wrong way to go. Time will tell if I or the devs are right. Personally I've gone from basically playing a few hours daily to not playing at all for over a month with all the bad decisions lately. There's just so much hope you can put into the devs of a game when you're seeing them slowly drive right into a brick wall without even trying to change the course.

[ryoma]

Hope PGI notices.

[ICEFANG13]

Well I don't think too many people are going to vote in this, still about half of the votes is not a bad size, especially when its so clear what the people want.

[Corpsecandle]

Necro'd

And I wonder if this is still "what people want". 3pv sucks.

[ICEFANG13]

Corpsecandle, on 16 September 2013 - 08:31 AM, said:

Necro'd

And I wonder if this is still "what people want". 3pv sucks.

2 days is necro now?

[Lupus Aurelius]

Reposted from here: http://mwomercs.com/...ost__p__2752981

Lupus Aurelius, on 16 September 2013 - 07:45 AM, said:

PGI, credibility, get some....

1) Due to public outcry in closed beta, PGI states there will never be 3rd PV
2) PGI backtracks and states there will be 3rd PV, but with an option to play hardcore that is restricted to 1st PV
3) PGI implements 3PV, but backtracks on hardcore mode saying it is not necessary, and posts a rambling apologetic http://mwomercs.com/...te-and-apology/ , which is mocked on several gaming sites.

The total lack of credibility on this issue alone, not counting multiple other issue, is a clear indication of the lack of "good faith" in PGI's interaction with this community.

If you are expecting R. Bollocks and P. Inureye to actually follow thru with 1PV hardcore mode, you have not learned from history.

If you are expecting R. Bollocks and P. Inureye to actually follow thru with 1PV hardcore mode, you have not learned from history. If you are expecting them to change their minds permanently on this issue you have not learned from history,

Edited by Lupus Aurelius, 16 September 2013 - 08:44 AM.

[Jestun]

ryoma, on 13 September 2013 - 03:05 PM, said:

Hope PGI notices.

Interesting to see that PGI is editing out signature images which are critical of them and replacing them with an image that BREAKS THE FORUM SIG RULES by being too tall...

[Tice Daurus]

For who have voted so far, 'Full Release' is now right around the corner. No longer can people say "It's still Beta". I'd like to thank everyone who have took the time to come here to this thread and post your vote. I don't know at this point to what effect, if ANY will have here. But my hope is that PGI will look at this thread, see it as a sampling of what the whole community wants, even though the whole of the community did not vote here. And in checking out this sample vote, PGI will see what the community wants and adhere to that.

Now, some people will say "No, this isn't a true sampling of the community" or "This is just the vocal minority, thus this poll doesn't count", and yes, they have the right to say that, but this doesn't make this true. A sample polling means that this is a percentage of the vote and thus it's pulled from a general viewpoint from the community at large. And if you still don't agree with this and you haven't voted...you can still vote. Make your voice heard.

[Lupus Aurelius]

548 so far, over 70% not in favor. I'd call that a pretty significant response. Will PGI acknowledge it though?

I think most of us already know that answer!

Look how long it took PGI even acknowledge hundreds of pages of ECM posts....

Look at how they have backtracked and try to spin on this issue...

PGI, credibility, get some.

Edited by Lupus Aurelius, 16 September 2013 - 02:38 PM.

[AC]

Totally off topic, but it pertains. I am sick of seeing people dismiss founders (not just in this thread, but others too). Having the founders icon next to your name is almost like a giant flag that says "IGNORE". I don't understand this. Founders are the player base that have spent their hard earned cash here. Yes, some of us can be a little egotistical at times, but shouldn't PGI (and other players) at least respect the opinions of founders as we have proven that we are willing to hand over our money to keep this game going?

And on that note... I would like to see a tag added by the names of people who have dropped cash on this game. Give them a special forum tag as a reward. Call them "Premium Members" or "Gold Accounts" or whatever. I feel like it would help PGI and those of us on the forums better understand the trends in opinions. Maybe the free players want one thing, while the paying want another. How will we know without some kind of indicator? Maybe I am on an island...or maybe that island is a continent. I would like to be able to better understand that....

[Wolfways]

Something i don't understand...We (forum users) are the vocal minority right? So who is most likely to spend money on MWO?

The founders who spent cash just to help see the game be made? The players who applied for and were accepted to closed beta? The players who have been "testing" the game during open beta?
Or the casual player who, according to PGI, doesn't read the forums and if something changes in the game that he doesn't like will either come to the forums to complain (thus becoming the vocal minority) or just stop playing altogether?

[Alistair Winter]

MWO fans consist of two groups: vocal minority and silent majority.

People in this thread are being a bit vocal right now. Which means you're, by definition, the minority, and so this poll is meaningless.

QED.

[ICEFANG13]

Alistair Winter, on 16 September 2013 - 05:08 PM, said:

MWO fans consist of two groups: vocal minority and silent majority.

People in this thread are being a bit vocal right now. Which means you're, by definition, the minority, and so this poll is meaningless.

QED.

Like the thread and poll that Bryan made about 3rd person on the forums to get feedback?

[ryoma]

Polls only matter in this game when they are beneficial to PGI.

Also, changing my sig to this image was just juvenile. Whoever edited my sig should really grow up.

[Almond Brown]

Tice Daurus, on 30 August 2013 - 12:30 PM, said:

Almond, I understand that this could be sarcastic (trust me, sometimes it's hard to determine sarcasm and I have a hard time recognizing if someone here is joking or serious when it comes to sarcasm sometimes...) but addressing your 350 of vocal minority quote, yeah, I get it only 350 people have voted so far and that's still a small amount when compared to the thousands of people here who still play or at one time played and no longer play and they no longer read these forums either.

MY point is to get as many people who are currently reading these forums to vote here and express their POV in the vote and to make sure my poll is as unbiased as possible, so there is no excuse and PGI can't ignore the poll and we can point at it and say "Here, here is what the people want, make it happen."

Yes we have about only 350 people who have voted at the moment. I get it. Tell your friends. If they were a part of Mechwarrior before and they've stopped playing, tell them to get to the forums, log on and cast their vote here. Let's give it one more try to get people here and show PGI what really matters.

Not sure of how many Players MWO has on the servers, but NO Poll on here will ever get enough Votes, one way or the other, to make a real difference. To many players who are playing are just playing and could give a rats arse about Polls about whatever. They just play.

BTW. If you missed it. Today's Patch makes this Poll moot anyways. If anyone does not like mixed 3PV, they can now play in the 3PV Free 12 v 12 queue. That should solve the 3PV Hater's issue right?

I got money that says it turns out just like the 8 v 8 scenario. Lets see how many flock over there, and then stay, after they find out that "ROTFStomping" ain't so easy when Teams actually fight. LOL!

They will all soon decide that 3PV ain't so bad after all, when all you can handle is ROTFSTOMP'ing PUGS and think your good doing so.