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[Hellcat420]

separate 1pv and 3pv que is only solution. forcing us to play against 3pv to cover for your deceit is not working so give it up already.

[Crazyeyes244]

Anyone else notice how all of the "official" threads for 3pv related discussion are locked?

[soarra]

Sam Donelly, on 30 August 2013 - 10:35 AM, said:

Anyone else notice how all of the "official" threads for 3pv related discussion are locked?

The first rule of 3PV is: you do not talk about 3PV.

[RedDragon]

Come on guys, get the word out there. We need at least as many votes on here as on the "official" poll

[Franchi]

RedDragon, on 30 August 2013 - 04:30 PM, said:

Come on guys, get the word out there. We need at least as many votes on here as on the "official" poll

We already had a poll on this with more people voting than the PGI troll poll, well over 3X as many, the poll was done when the first rumblings of 3rd person coming to MWO were heard.

They did not care then and they don't care.

Edited by Franchi, 30 August 2013 - 06:04 PM.

[Wolfways]

Maybe my mind is playing tricks on me but i'm pretty sure that when 3pv was announced there was a poll where over 7000 voted against it and 100+ wanted it.
I may be wrong though.

But let's face it, does it really matter? Even if a poll said 1million against 3pv and none for it i don't think PGI would change their mind. They haven't about any other bad thing introduced into MWO.

[soarra]

Wolfways, on 30 August 2013 - 05:34 PM, said:

Maybe my mind is playing tricks on me but i'm pretty sure that when 3pv was announced there was a poll where over 7000 voted against it and 100+ wanted it.
I may be wrong though.

But let's face it, does it really matter? Even if a poll said 1million against 3pv and none for it i don't think PGI would change their mind. They haven't about any other bad thing introduced into MWO.

this one

[Xoxim SC]

If you separate the queues then all you do is increase the overall wait times, and force a divide in the community. Bad idea in my opinion.

[soarra]

Todd Lightbringer, on 30 August 2013 - 05:39 PM, said:

If you separate the queues then all you do is increase the overall wait times, and force a divide in the community. Bad idea in my opinion.

PGI is already dividing the community

[Jragonsoul]

Todd Lightbringer, on 30 August 2013 - 05:39 PM, said:

If you separate the queues then all you do is increase the overall wait times, and force a divide in the community. Bad idea in my opinion.

soarra, on 30 August 2013 - 05:40 PM, said:

PGI is already dividing the community

Yeah, but their way, me and players like me are canceling pre-orders and moving to different games completely. At lest they'd have some retention with the split queues.

[Johnny Z]

My left eye starts to twitch at even the mention of 3pv.

[Helsbane]

3rd person basically turns the game into Call of Duty: Mechwarrior Edition. It doesn't belong in a Mechwarrior title. If PGI wants to develope another title that caters to the 3rd person market, then go ahead, but remove the 3rd person {Scrap} from MWO.

And, if it is as some suspect and IGP has PGI in a hammerlock over the whole matter, then separate the 1st and 3rd person queues. We as a community have already shown with definative proof that it provides the ability to see past cover, and we've stated time and time again that WE DO NOT WANT 3RD PERSON VIEW. If they have to leave it in, give us a way to avoid those using it.

[Wolfways]

soarra, on 30 August 2013 - 05:39 PM, said:

this one

No, i'm sure there was another with 7000 against. But l'm old and my brain is melting...

[Will9761]

Just asking, but what if 3PV was made into a damage display just like in Mechwarrior 3? As to where you can still stay in 1PV, but the 3PV Damage display just views you mech's frontal appearance and movement. Without giving you hassle of switching back-n-forth between 3PV and 1PV.

Here's what I mean:

Edited by Will9761, 30 August 2013 - 07:26 PM.

[Wolfways]

Helsbane, on 30 August 2013 - 05:57 PM, said:

3rd person basically turns the game into Call of Duty: Mechwarrior Edition. It doesn't belong in a Mechwarrior title.

Well to be fair it was in the other MW games (as far as i know. I only played MW2 and i can barely remember it), but i do think 1pv and 3pv should be separated. I'd be happy with them together if they put in a LoS like in WoT...and got rid of the immersion-breaking drones

Did MW2 have an expansion or something called Ghost Bears legacy?

[Wolfways]

Will9761, on 30 August 2013 - 07:19 PM, said:

Just asking, but what if 3PV was made into a damage display just like in Mechwarrior 3? As to where you can still stay in 1PV, but the 3PV Damage display just views you mech's frontal appearance and movement. Without giving you hassle of switching back-n-forth.

Here's what I mean:

That would be okay if it was just about newbies seeing their legs, but i think it's more than that. It's just that some players like playing their mech from the 3pv view (or the view it will be when PGI work on it more) and as PGI have said, they want MWO to appeal to a wider audience.
If PGI want to have both views though they should use a LoS system like WoT. I wish they'd use the camo system as well. You can rent camo with "C-Bills" or buy it with cash.

[PlzDie]

Wolfways, on 30 August 2013 - 07:14 PM, said:

No, i'm sure there was another with 7000 against. But l'm old and my brain is melting...

There was another one the first one had over 7000 votes on it, it was I think during closed beta and got "accidentally deleted" when they changed the web site.

Wolfways, on 30 August 2013 - 07:31 PM, said:

That would be okay if it was just about newbies seeing their legs, but i think it's more than that. It's just that some players like playing their mech from the 3pv view (or the view it will be when PGI work on it more) and as PGI have said, they want MWO to appeal to a wider audience.
If PGI want to have both views though they should use a LoS system like WoT. I wish they'd use the camo system as well. You can rent camo with "C-Bills" or buy it with cash.

PGi's insistence on 3PV never had anything to do with the new player experience, if they really cared about the new player a tutorial would have been allot more useful to help people get used to the workings of this game, like the tutorial on every other mechwarrior game. No they smelled dollars over in console country and put all of us on an island.

They should rename this Mechassault online because that is where it is heading.
And be sure when they are finally done tweaking 3PV it will be allot better to use than what it currently is.

[Khan Reaper]

I voted separate queues. However, I don't think it matters much during PUG play. I don't see anyone using it anyway.

[Jay Corbett]

I've voted - but for those who can't take the lies any more, demand a refund of any money spent. If they turn you down, file official complaints. Enough of a noise and they'll get the message far more strongly through being investigated for fraudulent practice than through forum polls that they've already proved they disregard.

http://www.competiti...H%C3%89T-7TDNA5

[Wolfways]

Duppie1974, on 30 August 2013 - 09:59 PM, said:

There was another one the first one had over 7000 votes on it, it was I think during closed beta and got "accidentally deleted" when they changed the web site.

So i'm not going mad...unless you are too